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Pirates seize French cruise ship
Associated Press ^ | 04/04/08

Posted on 04/04/2008 10:10:42 AM PDT by presidio9

Pirates seized control of a French cruise ship Friday off the coast of Somalia, France's Foreign Ministry said.

A ministry official said details about the attack were scarce, and it was not clear how many crew members were on board the ship or if there were any passengers.

The ship is in the high seas in the Gulf of Aden, off the coast of Somalia in the Indian Ocean.

The official declined to identify the vessel or its owner.

The ministry has set up a crisis center to deal with the situation, said the official, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Pirates seized more than two dozen ships off the Somali coast last year.

The U.S. Navy has led international patrols to try to combat piracy in the region. Last year, the guided missile destroyer USS Porter opened fire to destroy pirate skiffs tied to a Japanese tanker.

Wracked by more than a decade of violence and anarchy, Somalia does not have its own navy and

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arrrrrrrr; cruiseship; hostages; leponant; maritime; piracy; pirates; somalia; surrendermonkeys; usn
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1 posted on 04/04/2008 10:10:42 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Somewhere between the Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli ?


2 posted on 04/04/2008 10:12:24 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: presidio9

They are dealing with Sarkozy now, it will be interesting to see how he handles this.


3 posted on 04/04/2008 10:12:27 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: presidio9

Maybe they were just representatives from the “Pirates ARRRRRRR Us” store....


4 posted on 04/04/2008 10:13:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: presidio9
The U.S. Navy has led international patrols to try to combat piracy in the region.

Evil Americans. Trying to infringe upon the sovereignty of peace-loving pirates who are just trying to make a living to feed their children and provide medical care to their people.

5 posted on 04/04/2008 10:13:22 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: presidio9

They should surrender before someone gets hurt.


6 posted on 04/04/2008 10:14:33 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: presidio9

ANY cruise line that would allow a ship anywhere within speedboat range of the Somali coast is out of its collective cotton-pickin’ mind!


7 posted on 04/04/2008 10:14:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: presidio9

Man. Those passengers must be terrified.


8 posted on 04/04/2008 10:15:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Abathar

Prayers up for the folks on that ship.Of course the press refuses to identify the ‘pirates’ as the Islamists that they usually are in that part of the world.


9 posted on 04/04/2008 10:17:26 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: presidio9
Muslims strike again, I'll betcha'

We won't know about it, unless some brave reporter or seaman speaks up ... but I'll still betcha'.

10 posted on 04/04/2008 10:18:08 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Abathar

For all the ridicule the French get, deservedly, for their military, I hear they have a pretty salty elite anti-terrorist unit. Maybe they will get some practice.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 10:18:23 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Gaffer

I knew Jason Bay and Adam LaRoche were up to no good...


12 posted on 04/04/2008 10:20:19 AM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: presidio9; Abathar

Don't worry. He's one of them.........

13 posted on 04/04/2008 10:21:17 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Truly.


14 posted on 04/04/2008 10:23:58 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: AnAmericanMother

What the pirates do is have a “mothership” bring the speedboats out to sea, so it’s not a function of being in proximity to the coast. That may have happened here.


15 posted on 04/04/2008 10:24:03 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AnAmericanMother
ANY cruise line that would allow a ship anywhere within speedboat range of the Somali coast is out of its collective cotton-pickin’ mind!

What, and miss out on the bargain shopping and cafe-hopping in downtown Mogadishu?

16 posted on 04/04/2008 10:25:45 AM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Didn’t cruise ships used to keep an armory?


17 posted on 04/04/2008 10:26:04 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Gaffer
Maybe they were just representatives from the “Pirates ARRRRRRR Us” store....

LOL!

18 posted on 04/04/2008 10:26:48 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (That midget hates it when I do that.)
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To: Constitution Day

Reading le figaro now - apparently no passengers - only crew - 30 of them or less depending on whose account you wish to believe.


19 posted on 04/04/2008 10:26:48 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 1rudeboy
The US Navy has a long history with islamic pirates ... If the frogs aren't willing or able to deal with them ... Arleigh Burke class shouldn't have any trouble.

I'd consider my tax money well spent.

20 posted on 04/04/2008 10:27:06 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

21 posted on 04/04/2008 10:27:27 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Well, that’s good. I hope they all get out safely.


22 posted on 04/04/2008 10:29:22 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Sounds like the dogs of war are about to be unleashed, including “Task Force 150” which is under US Command. Hopefully, the pirates will be terminated with extreme prejudice.


23 posted on 04/04/2008 10:29:39 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: presidio9

I beleive what happened was a lone fisherman, 67 years of age, was at sea and barley visible to the French vessle when the decision by the French Captain was to surrender. The Captain, a supporter of the former French President, Jacque Chiracque (sp), felt compelled to raise the white flag. It took the French vessle an hour to get along side the occupant of the fishing boat and another three hours to get him to take command of the French vessle.

The fisherman’s main concern that he would be late getting home and his wife would worry.

The French vessle was occupied with French big game hunters since all were in possession of their accordians


24 posted on 04/04/2008 10:29:44 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: presidio9

update,, “Le Ponant”, 30 crew members, no passengers

Pirates seize French ship off Somalia
JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_re_af/somalia_pirate_attack_4

PARIS - Pirates seized control of a French vessel carrying 30 crew members Friday off the coast of Somalia, the French government and the ship’s owner said.

Attackers stormed aboard “Le Ponant” as it returned without passengers from the Seychelles, in the Indian Ocean, toward the Mediterranean Sea, said officials with French maritime transport company CMA-CGM.

The corporate officials said they were in close contact with the French Foreign Ministry, which said in a statement that a cruise boat and its crew had been attacked by pirates.

The ship was in the high seas in the Gulf of Aden, off the coast of Somalia in the Indian Ocean, the ministry said. At least some of the crew members are French, it said.

Pirates seized more than two dozen ships off the Somali coast last year.

The U.S. Navy has led international patrols to try to combat piracy in the region. Last year, the guided missile destroyer USS Porter opened fire to destroy pirate skiffs tied to a Japanese tanker.

Wracked by more than a decade of violence and anarchy, Somalia does not have its own navy, and a transitional government formed in 2004 with U.N. help has struggled to assert control.

The International Maritime Bureau, which tracks piracy, said in its annual report earlier this year that global pirate attacks rose 10 percent in 2007, marking the first increase in three years.

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25 posted on 04/04/2008 10:29:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: massgopguy

All the cruise ships on which I have been a passenger had a shotgun or two for trapshooting off the aft deck. Surely a speedboat full of would-be pirates could be discouraged with a few whiffs of birdshot in their faces.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 10:30:35 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Republic of Texas

The French Naval Commando Force was formed in Great Britain during World War Two by the Free French and took part in the Normandy Invasion (as depicted in the movie The Longest Day). The unit, nicknamed the Green Berets, currently has 500 members and is considered by many in the Special Operations field to be one of the best waterborne special forces units operating out of mainland Europe.

27 posted on 04/04/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: massgopguy

Traditionally, no. There was one case where a cruise ship used a sonic device to repel a pirate attack last year. It’s sad to say that, unless you have some Marines or other Blackwater-types on board, having an armory on a cruise ship would just get people killed.


28 posted on 04/04/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ccmay

Water cannons are far more effective, sink the boats while they are approaching. Leave the drowning rats to the sharks.


29 posted on 04/04/2008 10:33:29 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: ccmay
Surely a speedboat full of would-be pirates could be discouraged with a few whiffs of birdshot in their faces.

They'll see your bird shot and raise you some RPGs and AK 47 return fire. These guys are armed to the teeth.

31 posted on 04/04/2008 10:34:34 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: ccmay

Something tells me that realistically more firepower than that would be needed. My first weapon of choice would be some .50 cal machine guns mounted at strategic points on the ship and lots of ammunition but I’m not really an expert.


32 posted on 04/04/2008 10:34:45 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Republic of Texas

The French carrier Charles de Gaulle has been deployed to the region, and will arrive sometime around June, 2010..


33 posted on 04/04/2008 10:35:19 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ccmay

Not with the armament that a lot of modern-day pirates wield. Submachine guns, assault rifles, pintle-mounted machine guns on their speedboats, explosives, grenades, all sorts of black market small arms. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were pirates running around in the Indian Ocean with heavier stuff like grenade launchers. A couple of trap-shooting shotguns would be useless against pirates that knew what they were doing and struck at night.

}:-)4


34 posted on 04/04/2008 10:36:04 AM PDT by Moose4 (If you get robbed, raped, or killed in Durham County, NC today, thank a probation officer.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
ANY cruise line that would allow a ship anywhere within speedboat range of the Somali coast is out of its collective cotton-pickin’ mind!

On the contrary, I think those cruises should allow all guests to bring along whatever firearms they own and you could have a rag-head skeet shoot outfitter's vacation.
35 posted on 04/04/2008 10:37:58 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: ken5050
Interesting that you should mention the De Gaulle, because the last time I checked, it was in the Indian Ocean operating in support of the troops in Afghanistan.
36 posted on 04/04/2008 10:38:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: presidio9

People will make jokes, but I think these guys will be very sorry when the French armed forces get through with them. Sarkozy’s in the big chair these days.


37 posted on 04/04/2008 10:40:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Capture no one, sink everyone.


38 posted on 04/04/2008 10:40:13 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Le Ponant is the size of large yacht but is really a cruise ship. Often visits Monaco. It normally carries only 64 passengers.
39 posted on 04/04/2008 10:42:33 AM PDT by lstanle
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To: farmer18th
I think quad .50s might be more appropriate.

Although competent varminters or large bore target competitors who could pick off the guy at the helm would always be welcome.

40 posted on 04/04/2008 10:42:43 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 1rudeboy

Vive la France!


41 posted on 04/04/2008 10:43:00 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Hadn't heard of the 'mothership' concept.

Probably the best strategy would be to sink the mothership then, and leave the pirates to die of hunger and thirst far out to sea, and serve them right.

42 posted on 04/04/2008 10:44:26 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: massgopguy

French cruise ships traditionally only stock their armories with white flags.


43 posted on 04/04/2008 10:45:21 AM PDT by Kolb
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To: Abathar
They are dealing with Sarkozy now, it will be interesting to see how he handles this.

Piracy is not new, but the way to deal with them sure is.

Used to be execution on sight or capture.
Now, like most other international crime, it's touchie-feelie all the way.

44 posted on 04/04/2008 10:49:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What the pirates do is have a “mothership” bring the speedboats out to sea, so it’s not a function of being in proximity to the coast. That may have happened here.

That sounds like the perfect way to sink "mother ships", no questions asked...

45 posted on 04/04/2008 10:51:08 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxXSqZ9OvL4

Nice ship...


46 posted on 04/04/2008 10:51:36 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: massgopguy
Didn’t cruise ships used to keep an armory?

From the article:

Pirates seized control of a French cruise ship Friday off the coast of Somalia, France's Foreign Ministry said.

47 posted on 04/04/2008 10:54:40 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Republic of Texas
the ridicule the French get, deservedly, for their military

Why "deservedly"?

48 posted on 04/04/2008 10:54:40 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I see they prefer a Yamaha engine to a Renault or Citroen. :-)


49 posted on 04/04/2008 10:56:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: AnAmericanMother
...leave the pirates to die of hunger and thirst far out to sea, and serve them right.

I believe the correct phrase is,"Send them to Davey Jones' Locker."

50 posted on 04/04/2008 10:58:11 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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