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States May Free Inmates to Save Millions
AP ^ | 4/3/08 | RAY HENRY

Posted on 04/04/2008 8:16:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Lawmakers from California to Kentucky are trying to save money with a drastic and potentially dangerous budget-cutting proposal: releasing tens of thousands of convicts from prison, including drug addicts, thieves and even violent criminals.

Officials acknowledge that the idea carries risks, but they say they have no choice because of huge budget gaps brought on by the slumping economy.

<[>"If we don't find a way to better manage the population at the state prison, we will be forced to spend money to expand the state's prison system — money we don't have," said Jeff Neal, a spokesman for Rhode Island Gov. Don Carcieri.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; govwatch; politicians; prisoners; wod
Damned idiot politicians. The seems like another ploy to scare people into going along with raising taxes. Again.

Why is it that the government assumes that WE ccan live on less but that the government can't?

1 posted on 04/04/2008 8:16:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I seem to remember that a disproportionate number of the prison population are illegal aliens.
2 posted on 04/04/2008 8:18:50 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

release em in mexico


3 posted on 04/04/2008 8:19:20 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hire Sheriff Joe to manage ‘em.


4 posted on 04/04/2008 8:19:39 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Send them to Cuba, on boats.


5 posted on 04/04/2008 8:20:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Paladin2
..let em go swimming
6 posted on 04/04/2008 8:21:45 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Cobra64

It calls for a multi-tiered approach.

1. Deport all illegals in prison.
2. Everyone on death row gets their sentences immediately implemented.
3. The politicians who thought of this hairbrained scheme get thrown out of office.


7 posted on 04/04/2008 8:22:49 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: Paladin2

Make the prisons self sufficent and rehab the prisoners that aren’t violent back into society. It can be done if the government has the will.


8 posted on 04/04/2008 8:23:51 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Officials acknowledge that the idea carries risks,

Like when they come to your home to thank you ? Perhaps they can share that tree fort you have in your backyard with your kids ..

Jackass .


9 posted on 04/04/2008 8:24:26 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Don't tell me there isn't money for prisons when they are going to send 50 billion... with a B... to Africa for AIDS.... I saw it in the Fresno Bee today... our local congressman Devin Nunes (R) has voted YES on the bill....

I see a lot of trash alongside the highways that needs to be picked up... why not make them work off their sentences... or do we have a failure to communicate...

10 posted on 04/04/2008 8:24:27 PM PDT by BigFinn (Amateurs...built the ark. Professionals...built the Titanic)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Shouldn’t that read ‘States May Free Inmates to Kill Millions’?


11 posted on 04/04/2008 8:24:51 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They should have been building prisons when they *had* the money, instead of wasting it on things like junkets to casinos and the like.


12 posted on 04/04/2008 8:25:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BigFinn

Yep. Make them work to support their familes, pay room and board and compensate victims. Teach them trades and how to function in society. No work...No food or water...Poor work..bread and water.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 8:29:50 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The same old ritual of threatening to release convicts, cut back on police, firefighters and teachers if they don’t get mo’ money, etc., etc., etc., ad inf., ad naus.


14 posted on 04/04/2008 8:30:27 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Outsource prisons to Turkey


15 posted on 04/04/2008 8:34:49 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Damned idiot politicians. The seems like another ploy to scare people into going along with raising taxes.

Screw it. Let them out. I'm tired of pay to house all the pot heads and parole violators that the system wants to keep. These prisons remind me a lot of the way military bases are run. The bigger they are the more powerful the warden and others feel. Keep the murderers, rapists, and car thieves behind bars. Put ankle bracelets on the rest if necessary.

16 posted on 04/04/2008 8:36:15 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

When the freed repeat offenders commit crimes and the victims’ families sue the State, they can give those million to them.


17 posted on 04/04/2008 8:41:52 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: BigFinn
I see a lot of trash alongside the highways that needs to be picked up... why not make them work off their sentences... or do we have a failure to communicate...

No failure to communicate. Just you playing the ignorant fool. The county inmates do have outside work crews who pick up trash, rake leaves, etc. It doesn't mean it costs less to house them.
A smarter approach IMO is to put the non-violent ones on ankle bracelets and under house arrest.

18 posted on 04/04/2008 8:43:14 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
... including drug addicts, thieves and even violent criminals.

If we would come to our senses and quite putting drug addicts in prison in the first place, we would have more time & money to go after the thieves and violent criminals.

And, if drugs were legal, a lot of those thieves and violent criminals would be workers instead of criminals.

19 posted on 04/04/2008 8:43:36 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
And, if drugs were legal, a lot of those thieves and violent criminals would be workers instead of criminals.

Not sure about that, but it sure doesn't make sense to keep sending addicts back to jail for failed UA's.

20 posted on 04/04/2008 8:49:26 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: MovementConservative

Jail isn’t the answer IMO. Parole and test them. If they come up positive put them in no frills half way houses for awhile with supervision to work and back.


21 posted on 04/04/2008 8:52:28 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Hell, the way it works now they aren't even locking some very bad people up and innocents are being killed. Now they want to actually release some of the few they've actually caught, charged, prosecuted and sentenced?

To what end do they propose to even pursue these types of criminals in the first place if they can't afford to administer justice when all is said and done? The world is going insane!

See this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996289/posts

22 posted on 04/04/2008 8:52:56 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: MovementConservative

The political class responds to your request by threatening to release the murderers, rapists, and car thieves unless you agree to a tax hike.

(Did you really think they would let you win?)


23 posted on 04/04/2008 8:53:22 PM PDT by ROP_RIP
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To: CindyDawg
If they come up positive put them in no frills half way houses for awhile with supervision to work and back.

That doesn't work either. These addicts don't care. Three hots and a cot. It's a break from life on the streets. Let them serve time for their theft then throw their butts back out on the street and let them live in the gutter if they choose. I don't want to pay to house them for what amounts to a vacation for them.

24 posted on 04/04/2008 8:58:15 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: ROP_RIP

I just think we lock up too many people. Put them on ankle bracelets. Don’t send every parole violator back to prison for failing a UA. If they want to live like addicted losers, let them do it.


25 posted on 04/04/2008 8:59:53 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hmmmm ..?? And .. how many more THOUSANDS will the state spend in investigating their new crimes; re-arresting them and re-trying them in court ..??

PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN IT COSTS THEM TO KEEP THEM THERE.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 9:02:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (AMERICA: The greatest nation on the face of the earth.)
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To: MovementConservative

If they want to live like addicted losers, let them do it.

I’d be good to go with that if they ate there own . It’s been my experience that this is not the case . Aside from that put up a bond issue , vote on it , and run the business on credit .

It isnt my 1st choice but the public seems to approve of such things often enough .


27 posted on 04/04/2008 9:40:57 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This is BRAVO SIERRA!

Deport the THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND INCARCERATED FOREIGNERS and move on!


28 posted on 04/04/2008 9:41:40 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Why is it that the government assumes that WE ccan live on less but that the government can’t?

Nobody seems to want to discuss the obvious problem I guess . The spenders .


29 posted on 04/04/2008 9:45:26 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Budget problems? Yup! And what always happens?

They give you a choice between a tax increase, and cutting the services that the government is actually supposed to provide - in particular, almost always police, fire, and/or prisons. They won’t threaten to cut socialist government dependency programs, or mass transit schemes, stadiums, city beautification projects, etc.

Releasing violent criminals from prisons goes right along with closing down fire stations in areas with already limited coverage - emblems of vile government.


30 posted on 04/04/2008 10:10:36 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

All non-violent, small time weed heads need to be released! I personally don’t want to pay $30 grand a year of my tax money to house and feed some small time dope head.


31 posted on 04/05/2008 3:04:10 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: EQAndyBuzz
3. The politicians who thought of this hairbrained scheme get thrown out of office.

Which costs more: keeping someone in prison for a year, or keeping a politician in office for a year?

32 posted on 04/05/2008 8:01:44 AM PDT by supercat
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To: CindyDawg
Make the prisons self sufficent

Absolutely.

33 posted on 04/05/2008 8:05:03 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: AmericaUnited; MovementConservative

The situation varies from state to state, but it is quite unusual for a “small time dope head” to get prison time. In the large blue states it is unheard of. It’s probably more common in the Bible Belt and AZ/NV/UT, but I am not an expert on those areas.

Now, are there big-time drug dealers in prison? Yes.

Are there violent animals who copped a plea to a drug misdemeanor because his victims refused to talk? Absolutely.

But the fundamental problem is that the crime rate in this country is at LEAST 2-3x as high as it was 50 years ago. For the most part this is due to liberal social policies and the breakdown of the traditional family - NOT overly aggressive prosecution of criminals. It wasn’t too long ago that most Americans slept with their doors unlocked.

It’s not your imagination - the situation really is getting worse. And, with tens of millions of anchor babies reaching gangbanger age in the next decade or two, the fun is only beginning.


34 posted on 04/05/2008 8:50:31 AM PDT by ROP_RIP
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To: ROP_RIP

Last week, working with the courts I had the opportunity to watch our legal system in action. A 17 year old arrested due to a traffic violation with a group of 18 and 19 year olds was stopped. The officer smelled marijuana, and all denied using or having it. The officer searched the car and found a bag 1/2 ounce- none claimed it. All were drug tested, all showed up positive, all were arrested, and charged with having marijuana in their system. ( we now have bladder police)

The 17 year old was placed on probation, and drug tested weekly by the state. On the fourth week, she showed positive for 16 nanograms of marijuana- this was two hits of pot. The judge asked me the therapist what should happen and the PO both of us recommended counseling and house arrest. She was a B student, no priors etc...

The judge decided that he wanted to teach her a lesson. He sent her to jail for 5 days ignoring the therapist and the probation officer recommendation.
18 people stood in the court room about this case- judges, to lawyers, to counselors, to probation officers etc...
What did this cost the taxpayer? She was taken in shackles
betcha a hundred bucks that when this kid gets off probation she smokes a joint again.
This is a huge waste of my money.The war on drugs has failed. It doesn’t work
Give it up.

How quickly we forget prohibiiton
If you want to eliminate the drug problem- educate don’t incarcerate for this crap.

It was a new jail - beds had to be filled-

we spend more on incarceration than on education. thats backwards folks.


35 posted on 04/05/2008 3:25:21 PM PDT by PRC
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