Posted on 04/04/2008 10:16:27 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Two SWAT officers are being counseled after bringing their young children along with them on a drug raid.
The Orange County SWAT team searched a house on Napoleon Street Friday, arresting three people and recovering guns and drugs.
The two officers who brought their children on the raid will not be disciplined.
Both officers said the incident will not happen again, Local 6 reported.
Take our Daughters to Work day?
These clowns take their kids into a situation where their lives really were in danger - and that's no problem?
Perhaps an obvious observation here....but if you went on a raid and took junior along...and you did something really stupid and got shot-up...thus dead...it might make more of a trauma situation than necessary. I can’t imagine any competent father doing something like this. So...I’m guessing we got cop wannabe’s....who shouldn’t be cops....and the chief ought to let these guys go.
Indeed. How else are the kids going to learn the proper use of automatic weapons, tasers, dynamic entries, you know...girlie stuff.
I was thinking the same thing ;^)
Florida has no law about endangering the life of a minor?
From time to time the media reports minors suing parents, these kids would have a good reason to do so in my book.
In about 20 - 25 years these kids should kick the living sh** out of these dads.
Heck, if that were my dad I’d be thanking him.
Great point!
This short story only raises questions to me:
1. Were these 16 and 17 year sons or 10 year old daughters. It matters.
2. Where the kids positioned away from the action?
3. How many dogs were shot.
Remember these guys bring tv cameras on their actions all the time all over the country.
I certainly do not defend the preferential treatment, but I would like common sense employed when actions of member of the police or a member of the public are questioned.
Now we know why they get so many wrong addresses - they’re letting the kids navigate!
Maybe they brought the kids in case they needed some ‘throw-downs’.
Never happen. They are “brothers” .. a “fraternity”. They support each other to the end.
Can you just imagine them telling the kids they were going to take them along so the could see daddy get the bad guy?
What was in their minds? Looking like a hero? Showing how rough they could be?
Pathetic.
I joined the Police Explorers when I was 14 years old. I went on drug raids, was in high speed pursuits, I cannot even being to count how many code 3 calls I went on...There are thousands of Police Explorers all over the country that do the same thing and I know of only one incident in the past 20 years where an Explorer was killed (the Explorer and the Police Officer she was riding with were both murdered but if memory serves I believe they were not even on a call and a deranged man looking to kill a cop happened upon them while they were parked and the officer was catching up on paper work).
“These clowns take their kids into a situation where their lives really were in danger - and that’s no problem?”
That lady was one of the “common” people. She was not part of the LEO club who lives by rules different than the common people.
Most government employees are part of the club to one extent or another. They believe are on a level above us.
Well .........sure glad they didn’t leave em in a car at the great wall of mart or they could have been arrested for endangering a child.
More Ok for me and not for thee crap........
“each department should ensure that Explorer involvement is meaningful but at the same time restricted enough to preclude unnecessary exposure to potentially dangerous situations. Obvious examples include domestic disputes, pursuits, or participation in felony-in-progress dispatches.”
“Law Enforcement Explorers, by virtue of special training and completion of in-service academies, logically can be involved in more complex activities than the average citizen. However, in minimizing its risks, each participating agency should formalize a procedure that maximizes the discretion of on-site commissioned personnel.”
http://www.learningforlife.org/exploring/lawenforcement/
I was an explorer in Richmond, CA. when it happened, The BSoA sent out letters basically saying what you had posted and after several weeks of the ride-a-long program being suspended there was a meeting of Explorer Advisers, Community Relations officers and Administrators from all over the Bay Area to decide if they should end the ride-a-long program or come up with a plan of what to do if there was an explorer in the car and the unit was dispatched to violent call, they finally decided that dropping us off on the corner would gets us killed quicker than taking us to a shots fired call. They solved the problem by taking us to the range and teaching us how to seek cover and use the shot gun if it became necessary to defend ourselves or a downed police officer.
We all dreamed of that moment when our riding officer got winged by a gang banger and we would come flying out of the car to save the day with the Mossberg, but it never happened.
The only time I ever came close to being in danger when I was an explorer was during a ride-a-long and we got dispatched to a "keep the peace" call between 2 female roommates. They had a falling out over a boy friend and one was moving out and was afraid that her roommate would try to prevent her from taking her stuff. I was standing between 4 police officers and the roommates who were about 10 feet from me when they started yelling at each other again and one of them picked up a stake knife. I heard leather breaking behind me and quickly realized I was in the line of fire of four cops who could use 3 days administrative leave while the officer involved shooting was being investigated. I hit the floor and that's when the idiot realized brandishing a knife while 4 cops are in your living room was a really dumb thing to do and dropped the knife. The cops all told me it was a good thing she dropped it because they were all laughing too hard at the look on my face to have been able to aim straight.
Policemen are not of the same caliber as they were in times past.
Jack Webb is rolling
I think everyone on this thread is missing the obvious...they brought their kids because a SWAT team was being used to make a bust they assessed as zero threat.
We have all seen the asses that LEO’s make of themselves on the shows like “Cops” when the cameras are rolling. Seems like situations are sometimes escalated to make for “good tv”.
How much more potential for this type of thing is there when daddy is showing off for Junior?
Excellent point!
Best regards,
So you say the lives of innocent men, women and children should be put at risk by a minimally trained juvenile who has NO legal standing or jurisdiction to become involved a crime investigation?
Best regards,
Can’t get a sitter, have to go to work? Take ‘em along! < /sarc >
They just treat it like it’s a normal business.
Here's the sort of counseling they deserve. To be followed by dismissal.
Continued evidence of the slide into totalitarian anarchy.
“Then can I shoot the terrifying puppy? And maybe stomp on that vicious, threatening kitten?”
I will agree to disagree my friend..... they brought their kids on a “raid”..........threat or no threat. UNACCEPTABLE ....PERIOD !
"The Orange County SWAT team searched a house on Napoleon Street Friday, arresting three people and recovering guns and drugs."
Arrested three people, found guns and drugs, that doesn't sound like a zero threat to me.
Would you expect it to; particularly if the department was, for all intents and purposes, using a bazooka to hunt pigeons, and the department would be embarrassed?
"Guns and drugs" covers a rather wide area. For my part, if it doesn't SAY an "assault rifle." I'm thinking a fifty-nine dollar raven in the bottom of a sock drawer without a bullet in the house.
The story simply does not add up with the information given. Therefore, there must be information that is NOT being given.
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