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Vodka-maker Absolut apologizes, ends ad showing California, Texas as part of Mexico
Intl Herald Tribune ^ | 4/6/08

Posted on 04/05/2008 6:10:55 PM PDT by DogBarkTree

The Absolut vodka company apologized Saturday for an ad campaign depicting the southwestern U.S. as part of Mexico amid angry calls for a boycott by U.S. consumers.

The campaign, which promotes ideal scenarios under the slogan "In an Absolut World," showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern states. Mexico still resents losing that territory in the 1848 Mexican-American War and the fight for Texas independence.

But the ads, which ran only in Mexico and have since ended, were less than ideal for Americans undergoing a border buildup and embroiled in an emotional debate over illegal immigration from their southern neighbor.

More than a dozen calls to boycott Absolut were posted on michellemalkin.com, a Web site operated by conservative columnist Michelle Malkin. The ads sparked heated comment on a half-dozen other Internet sites and blogs.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: absolut; ads; apology; aztlan; mexifornia
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I dare say Freeperville helped show the b@$tard$ the light. Unlikely I'll ever buy another bottle. Besides, I like Sarkozy and Grey Goose is a better Vodka anyway.
1 posted on 04/05/2008 6:10:55 PM PDT by DogBarkTree
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2 posted on 04/05/2008 6:12:15 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: DogBarkTree

Half-hearted disingenuous “apology” won’t cut it.


3 posted on 04/05/2008 6:12:39 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: DogBarkTree
"Vodka-maker Absolut apologizes ..."

Cram it, clown.

4 posted on 04/05/2008 6:12:45 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

You got that right.


5 posted on 04/05/2008 6:13:04 PM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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To: DogBarkTree

B
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6 posted on 04/05/2008 6:14:23 PM PDT by indcons
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To: DogBarkTree
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7 posted on 04/05/2008 6:14:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: ARE SOLE

Their Parent company Pernod just bought Absolut about 3 days ago. They must be flipping!


8 posted on 04/05/2008 6:15:53 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: DogBarkTree

Search is your friend...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1997167/posts


9 posted on 04/05/2008 6:16:08 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: DogBarkTree
As they say “Any publicity is good publicity” and I can think of no other reason for putting forth this ridiculous, inflammatory piece. Unfortunately they are getting their name imprinted in the minds of millions of otherwise brain addled consumers.
10 posted on 04/05/2008 6:17:02 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: DogBarkTree

Withdrawal and apology are too late for me. Grey Goose, Skyy, Finlandia, Ketel, Chopin will be my choices for an adult beverage henceforth.


11 posted on 04/05/2008 6:17:40 PM PDT by Wombat Ark
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To: DogBarkTree

Related
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996876/posts

IN Absolut’s blog linked from that thread, there are almost a thousand comments from p-od customers.


12 posted on 04/05/2008 6:17:54 PM PDT by mnehrling
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To: Bean Counter

I did run a search. Noticing a different headline and source is YOUR friend.


13 posted on 04/05/2008 6:19:05 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: DogBarkTree
Being a Finn, here was my version:


14 posted on 04/05/2008 6:20:02 PM PDT by inkling
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To: Bean Counter

I don’t care for Vodka, and Skyy does nicely for the few bloody mary’s I drink. I will however bid a fond farewell to Chivas Regal and Glenlivit though.


15 posted on 04/05/2008 6:20:16 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: DogBarkTree

I live in CA and this ad that I guess was only showing in Mexico makes me mad. I love a good Martini but not with ABSOLUT anymore. Think if an American Oil Company did an ad like this with oil the outrage and of course they would have blamed it on Bush.


16 posted on 04/05/2008 6:20:43 PM PDT by proudCArepublican
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To: DogBarkTree
The map is also visually misleading, making the area that Mexico ceded in the 1848 and 1853 treaties look larger than it should. The difference in latitude between the US/Mexico border south of San Diego and the California/Oregon state line is a bit under 10 degrees, while the difference from the northern border of California (42 degrees) to the US/Canadian border is 7 degrees. The map makes the formerly Mexican territories look more than twice as wide as the strip between 42 and 49 degrees.

Of course the map of North America never looked as it is depicted, since in the period before Texan independence, Panama was still part of Mexico, and the US and Great Britain jointly occupied the Oregon Country.

17 posted on 04/05/2008 6:21:09 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: DogBarkTree

Thank you fellow freepers, for shining the spotlight on the hating game that absonot is playing. How typical of these smug elitists, to push their anti-american crap on us, then when they are called on the carpet for it - typical liberal move.....two snaps and a retreat!!!!!!/Just Asking - seoul62.......


18 posted on 04/05/2008 6:21:10 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: DogBarkTree
Absolut said the ad was designed for a Mexican audience and intended to recall "a time which the population of Mexico might feel was more ideal."

They should just apologize and shut up.

19 posted on 04/05/2008 6:21:40 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: DogBarkTree
Resent my backside, Mexico was paid for the terriorty.

About that treaty... Time - 1848 - in the American SouthWest.

The Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo.

When the Mexican commissioners made advances for peace at the beginning of the year 1848, they were given terms almost as liberal as those offered them before Scott had stormed and occupied their capital.

By the treaty concluded at Guadalupe-Hidalgo, February 2, 1848, Mexico was required to cede California and New Mexico to the United States and to recognize the Rio Grande as the southern and western boundary of Texas. In return, the United States paid Mexico $15,000,000 cash and assumed some $3,250,000 more in claims of American citizens on the Mexican government.

Considering the facts that California was scarcely under Mexican control at all and might have been taken at any moment by Great Britain, France, or Russia; that New Mexico was still the almost undisturbed home of Indian tribes; that the land from the Nueces to the Rio Grande was almost a desert; and that the American troops were in possession of the Mexican capital, the terms offered Mexico were very generous.

Polk was urged by many to annex the whole country of Mexico to the United States, but he refused to consider such a proposal.

History is SUCH a bitc& in this things. BTW, the US paid Russia 7.2 Million in 1867 for Alaska.

20 posted on 04/05/2008 6:23:00 PM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: Last Dakotan
Absolut said the ad was designed for a Mexican audience...

Then why wasn't it in Spanish?

21 posted on 04/05/2008 6:23:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ASOC

bttt


22 posted on 04/05/2008 6:24:31 PM PDT by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: DogBarkTree
The ads sparked heated comment on a half-dozen other Internet sites and blogs.

Half-dozen. Good one!

23 posted on 04/05/2008 6:24:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: DogBarkTree

Too late, they already pissed me off. I am not buying their product ever again. .

Plus, I hear that this AMERICAN made vodka is really great

http://www.bendistillery.com/crater-lake-vodka.html

Made in Oregon.... good enough for me!!


24 posted on 04/05/2008 6:26:13 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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To: inkling

Finlandia has been my preferred vodka brand for the last 6-7 yrs. now


25 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:03 PM PDT by indcons
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To: DogBarkTree

Abslut can take their Vodka and their anti-American attitude and stick it where the sun don’t shine.


26 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:19 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: Wombat Ark

“Grey Goose, Skyy, Finlandia, Ketel, Chopin will be my choices for an adult beverage henceforth.”

Jack Daniel’s - Buy American...


27 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:29 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Wombat Ark

You should try out Christiania. It’s imported from Norway, and distilled 6 times.


28 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: wastedyears

Kamchatka !-also doubles as paint thinner.


29 posted on 04/05/2008 6:29:50 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Building Code Under Fire)
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To: KarenMarie

Thanks for the link. I like JD in the cold months and Vodka in the summer. I’ll try Crater Lake for sure.


30 posted on 04/05/2008 6:30:11 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

No it won’t. They need to draw a new map with the US 100 miles south of the Rio Grande and give every American that was offended a free bottle with the map on it.


31 posted on 04/05/2008 6:32:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

32 posted on 04/05/2008 6:32:47 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: DogBarkTree

I wonder what they would do if they were marketing to Arabs? Make Israel part of Jordan or make it part of the Mediterranean Sea?


33 posted on 04/05/2008 6:35:01 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: cripplecreek
I must admit to being dense....I didn't get the point of the Absolut map. It seemed stupid and offensive to me.

Your Saami map on the other hand I do understand. It may be offensive to some Scandanavians, but I doubt it and think it's pretty cool.

prisoner6

34 posted on 04/05/2008 6:36:15 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: DogBarkTree
Boycott pernod-ricard brands - 15 key brands and 30 local brands (plus Absolut).

Key Brands:

Absolut Rickard Ballantines Chivas Regal Kahlua Malibu Beefeater Havana Club Stolichnaya Jameson Martell Glenlivet Jacobs Creek Mumm Perrier-Jouet Montana wines, New Zealand

Local Brands:

Seagram’s gin, 100 Pipers, Amaro Ramazzoti, Clan Campbell, Imperial, Pastis 51, Ararat, Wild Turkey, Royal Salute, Tia Maria, Suze, Royal Stag, Ruavieja, Wyndham Estate, Powers, Campo Viejo, Hiram Walker, Passport, Café de Paris, Becherovka, Don Pedro, Olmeca, Aberlour, Wisers, Montilla, Presidente, Soho/Dita, Pernod, Wyborowa, Something special.
35 posted on 04/05/2008 6:37:08 PM PDT by indcons
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Clan Campbell

No problem boycotting this!


36 posted on 04/05/2008 6:40:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("I am like...Dude......do you really....like want the Sex?")
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To: DogBarkTree


Might be "Boston Tea Party" time...
37 posted on 04/05/2008 6:42:31 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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The ads sparked heated comment on a half-dozen other Internet sites and blogs.

The MSM is so full of crap. A "half-dozen," huh?

If you do a google blog search there's easily over a hundred blogs that have entries on this story.

They still lie, even when it takes, literally, only five seconds to go to the google search bar, type in "absolut," then go to the "more" tab and hit "blogs."

38 posted on 04/05/2008 6:43:30 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: DogBarkTree

Too late, Absolut. I will not buy your products under any circumstances.


39 posted on 04/05/2008 6:45:52 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

they ran the ad only in Mexico? What they thought Americans were that ignorant we’d never see it?

they are only sorry they got caught.


40 posted on 04/05/2008 6:46:09 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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It wasn't actually much of an apology, IMHO. In any case, the bottom line on this is that for whatever reason a fellow at an advertising agency blew it and his client is going to pay for it. Marketeers make big money not to make this sort of mistake, but it happens all the time. Somebody in Europe relearns the lesson every time the World Cup goes around - never, never inject your product into a nationalistic dispute in any way. It isn't even safe to congratulate the Italian team for making the playoff if their first-round opponent is France. You will lose French market share.

But I get the impression that this particular individual did know what he was doing. Taking gratuitous shots at the United States is a very effective marketing ploy in a lot of places. Pushback is uncommon, or it has been for a very long time. What amuses me most about this particular incident is the surprise on so many people's parts that it happened at all. I even got the impression from the "apology" that the author didn't consider that anyone in the U.S. even had a right to be offended.

That sort of stuff sells a lot of newspapers and scholarly journals, but it doesn't sell a lot of vodka. From a marketing perspective it's a loser - the people who look at the ad and snicker still may or may not buy the product, but the people who look at it and are outraged very definitely will not. And the object is, after all, to sell more product.

Companies do occasionally wish to do something other than sell more product, and it turns out to be a rather expensive luxury. Benetton in particular seems to regard political activism as a corporate virtue and shock advertisement as a means to effect it. That's fine if the shareholders want to pay for it. But even Benetton makes a misstep now and then - a picture of an angelic white girl next to a black boy whose hair is made up to look like horns caused a furor when it was published, as did a picture of Ronald Reagan photoshopped to include AIDS sores. Most newspapers refused to print one of their advertisements consisting solely of crosses in a graveyard during the first Gulf War. There were a few too many of those in Europe to make that anything but blatant hypocrisy.

I don't know if it is the intention of Absolut's new holding company to pursue that line of endeavor - I suspect not. This was a blunder. A half-hearted and clearly uncomprehending "apology" hasn't helped. Their best hope is just to shut up and stop digging. And if it gets bad enough, and it might, to rename the product. That would not be a sign of a succesful advertising campaign...

41 posted on 04/05/2008 6:46:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: indcons

“Glenlivet “

Awww mannnnnn, what about Gled Fiddich or the other single malts?


42 posted on 04/05/2008 6:49:31 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DogBarkTree

Mexico still resents losing that territory in the 1848 Mexican-American War and the fight for Texas independence.

Excuse me—Texas kicked their a** in 1836—the US contributed little, and Texas certainly wasn’t a ‘Prize’ of the Mexican American War. In fact, this latest flap may lead to Texas taking over Mexico /sarc/ but possible in a heartbeat.


43 posted on 04/05/2008 6:52:55 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: cripplecreek

Joni Mitchell thanks you!


44 posted on 04/05/2008 6:53:42 PM PDT by britt reed (What if the Founding Fathers had "just stayed home"?)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yikes, the Rhinestone Cowboy is scary....


45 posted on 04/05/2008 6:59:33 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yikes, the Rhinestone Cowboy is scary....does not make gentle on my mind.


46 posted on 04/05/2008 7:00:52 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: DogBarkTree
The campaign, which promotes ideal scenarios under the slogan "In an Absolut World," showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern states.

This is a dissimulation. The map is patterned after the territorial boundaries of the period, but it is modernized and altered. At that period, the Oregon Territory extended north of the current Canadian border, and the whole northwest and midwest were still territories, and not part of the United States, per se.

Significantly, The northern border of California has been extended to make Oregon part of Mexico. I suppose it was a little joke of the author of this piece to push the border north in this way.

47 posted on 04/05/2008 7:02:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: DogBarkTree
"In an Absolut World," showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern states.

Is that really a correct 1830s map of Central America and South America?

48 posted on 04/05/2008 7:02:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: DogBarkTree
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49 posted on 04/05/2008 7:15:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: DogBarkTree
"Vin & Sprit, Absolut's Sweden-based parent company, will be acquired by French spirit maker Pernod Ricard SA under a deal reached last week."

The French company might want to think about lowering its offer after that ad.

50 posted on 04/05/2008 7:16:06 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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