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America's Fifth Column - Aiding and Abetting Our Enemies
Capitol Hill ^ | April 6, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 04/06/2008 7:15:44 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

America has a growing enemy within. This enemy is referred to by experts as America’s Fifth Column. According to Encyclopedia Britannica, the term Fifth Column refers to “A clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity] by any means at their disposal.”

As Britannica notes, the term is credited to Emilio Mola Vidal, a Nationalist general during the Spanish Civil War (1936–39). As four of his army columns moved on Madrid, the general referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his “fifth column,” intent on undermining the loyalist government from within.

Does such a group of subversive agents’ intent upon undermining American unity actually exist today? If they do, who are they, what are their methods and what is their goal?

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Who is the American Fifth Column?

In short, members of the American fifth column can be identified by their open or disguised opposition to pro-American policies, principles or values. Agents of the fifth column can always be identified as those working to “undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity].”

(Excerpt) Read more at capitolhillcoffeehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4thestate5thcolumn; democrats; enemedia; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; globalists; liberals; sedition; socialists; threadjack; treason
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If American patriots don't come to grips with this reality soon, they will find themselves a defeated minority living under the boot of Democratic Socialists.
1 posted on 04/06/2008 7:15:44 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
[ If American patriots don't come to grips with this reality soon, they will find themselves a defeated minority living under the boot of Democratic Socialists. ]

This isea is about 8 years LATE.. maybe 12 years late..

2 posted on 04/06/2008 7:18:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Sadly in agreement.


3 posted on 04/06/2008 7:25:56 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: PlainOleAmerican
“A clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity] by any means at their disposal.”

That would describe much of “academia” and the so-called entertainment industry — except they are NOT clandestine.

4 posted on 04/06/2008 7:26:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Good related article on same site.

http://capitolhillcoffeehouse.com/more.php?id=5114_0_1_0_M


5 posted on 04/06/2008 7:29:16 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: BenLurkin

True, they are out in the open now... including in congress.


6 posted on 04/06/2008 7:30:47 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: vietvet67

Yep! Thanks for posting a link to it.


7 posted on 04/06/2008 7:31:41 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: hosepipe

Americans are slow to catch on... This has been happening for more than 40 years now. Turns out McCarthy was right.


8 posted on 04/06/2008 7:33:25 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Republicans need to wake up and realize they are far better off returning to a conservative base and principles instead of appeasing the socialist left to expand the voter base. Doing the latter will continue to empower socialists.


9 posted on 04/06/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
If American patriots don't come to grips with this reality soon, they will find themselves a defeated minority living under the boot of Democratic Socialists.

How will we notice any difference? ;)

10 posted on 04/06/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The problem is this smacks of McCarthyism! However, I think that we are currently in a race to see which prevails, democrat socialist are republican socialist.
11 posted on 04/06/2008 7:35:18 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
If American patriots don't come to grips with this reality soon, they will find themselves a defeated minority living under the boot of Democratic Socialists.

How will we notice any difference? ;)

12 posted on 04/06/2008 7:35:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

To the perhaps one FReeper (if any) whom might have seen a few of my posted commentaries over the years, and wondered what I meant by “Creative Dissent”, this article of J.B. Williams pretty much sums it up.

Americans were a content lot once upon a time, but the Socialist inclined have utilized “Creative Dissent” over many years to create discontent. A contented America isn’t an America inclined to “change”.


13 posted on 04/06/2008 7:37:00 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

The “fifth column” consists of the democrat party, TV and film producers and writers, and 90% of media writers and newsreaders.


14 posted on 04/06/2008 7:39:54 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Just when you think it can’t get any worse, it will...


15 posted on 04/06/2008 7:40:41 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Man50D

In the good ole days, we only had to fight Democratic Socialists across the aisle. Now we have to fight them in the RNC too... You’re right!


16 posted on 04/06/2008 7:41:37 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: org.whodat

Maybe people should have listened to McCarthy?

All the people McCarthy was worried about are members of the Fifth Column today...


17 posted on 04/06/2008 7:42:42 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: rockinqsranch

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

We were warned early on...


18 posted on 04/06/2008 7:44:50 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

and half of congress...


19 posted on 04/06/2008 7:45:32 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

america’s fifth column is the democrat party and its minions.


20 posted on 04/06/2008 7:59:14 AM PDT by ripley
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To: PlainOleAmerican
“A clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity] by any means at their disposal.”

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Schools! Are the most effective means available to the the Liberal/Marxists whose goal is to destroy freedom!

Marxism is our nation's MOST serious threat. Government K-12 schools and our colleges and universities are their most important weapon.

We can survive a nuclear suitcase bomb. Freedom will not survive if our Marxist dominated schools succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters.

By the way, I am disgusted with the Three Stooges ( Rush, Sean, and OReilly)! They rarely use the words that fit: MARXISM!, COMMUNISM! Freedom is being undermined by Marxists and they continue to use the words “liberal, leftist, and socialist”. How can we win this philosophical civil war if we don't identify the enemy????? Huh?

This month's issue of the “Limbaugh Letter” has on the front page the headline, “Stop Accepting Liberal Premises”. What???? Liberal??? I nearly threw up! We are not fighting liberals. Call them what they are! MARXISTS! COMMUNISTS!

21 posted on 04/06/2008 8:00:35 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: org.whodat; PlainOleAmerican

If McCarthy was right, can McCarthyism be wrong?

“McCarthyism is a term coined and bandied about by those who were its targets (and rightfully so).


22 posted on 04/06/2008 8:02:46 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: PlainOleAmerican

This is the real enemy we fight on a daily basis. They are leading the poor and uneducated over a cliff like lemmings. THIS is why we need a powerful Conservative standard bearer, not the milquetoast McCain. These are the people we must expose and defeat. We are losing this war, and if we don’t win this one, it won’t matter how many Iraq’s we do win, we will still be doomed.


23 posted on 04/06/2008 8:03:25 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The “fifth column” consists of the democrat party, TV and film producers and writers, and 90% of media writers and newsreaders.

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Why did you overlook our SCHOOLS??? ( Yes, I am shouting!) Why is that conservatives are so unaware of the damage being done in our government K-12 schools and our colleges and universities?

I should make a bumper sticker that reads:

“We can survive a nuclear suitcase bomb. Freedom will not survive if the Marxists indoctrinate the next generation of voters!”


24 posted on 04/06/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ripley

Yep!


25 posted on 04/06/2008 8:26:11 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: wintertime

“What???? Liberal??? I nearly threw up! We are not fighting liberals. Call them what they are! MARXISTS! COMMUNISTS!”

AMEN!


26 posted on 04/06/2008 8:27:07 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Republic of Texas

BRAVO!

You stated it exactly right!


27 posted on 04/06/2008 8:28:13 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Daniel Henninger has an interesting article about this in the Wall Street Journal.

See http://online.wsj.com/article/wonder_land.html


28 posted on 04/06/2008 9:12:05 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: BusterBear

Thanks for the heads up!


29 posted on 04/06/2008 9:25:54 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: wintertime
"Marxism is our nation's MOST serious threat. Government K-12 schools and our colleges and universities are their most important weapon."

I agree with you Winterime, and it's maddening to me also. It was a terrible mistake to think that the threat of Marxism ended when the Soviet Union collapsed. I also am frustrated that so few seem to realize what an evil organization the NEA is, and what destruction they have wreaked on this county by having changed our public schools into political indoctrination pens. Jimmy Carter effectively gave them a cabinet post when he created the Dept. of Education and they now wield almost total control over Public Education in our country.

30 posted on 04/06/2008 9:44:40 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: ripley
america’s fifth column is the democrat party and its minions.

There are plenty in the GOP

31 posted on 04/06/2008 9:52:03 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“The “fifth column” consists of the democrat party, TV and film producers and writers, and 90% of media writers and newsreaders.”

The “fifth column” also include those who promote the idea of a North American Union (where the US would be the loser) and who are against keeping illegal aliens out. It’s not difficult to realize who these Repubs and Dhimmies are.

If Al-Qaeda had any smarts, they would just stand by at a distance and watch Americans destroy their country. They can then walk in without a fight while the true patriots are overseas defending a country that has become only a dim reflection of what its Founding Fathers had envisioned.


32 posted on 04/06/2008 10:07:57 AM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Candidate who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

How about a significant number of our politicians on both sides of the isle?Elites vs the rest of us.


33 posted on 04/06/2008 11:23:19 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: wintertime
Don't even get me started in on government schools. I cannot believe the utter lack of knowledge on the part of parents as they cart their kids off to government schools without a thought, then go into debt to send them to the high levels of socialist indoctrination called universities, to become indentured servants in the chattering classes. This makes sense? Doesn't their historical, verbal, and literary ignorance go unnoticed by their parents?

A lot of nice people I know, with children, have NO CLUE about what their kids are exposed to. I end up biting my tongue, since I am not "holier than thou," but I ain't sending my progeny into mindless training for service of the elites.

Yeah, reproductive freedom to kill, but once the "products of reproduction" make it out alive, the government wants to take over from there. Wha?

34 posted on 04/06/2008 11:31:23 AM PDT by elk
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To: VR-21; elk
“Marxism is our nation's MOST serious threat. Government K-12 schools and our colleges and universities are their most important weapon.”
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I honestly feel that freedom is in grave danger and conservatives are cooking like frogs in a pot of slowly warming water!

What **really** steams me are that the three men most able to wake up the slowly cooking conservatives are Rush, Sean, and OReilly.

First, they are NOT educating their audience as to what the REAL enemy is: MARXISM! They could be doing sooooo much if they would use their influence to correctly identify what it is that drives America's deterioration. Marxism!

I think Rush's “Limbaugh Letter” had me completely steamed! I am exasperated! The front page headline is “ Stop Liberal Premises”. Wow! Gee! If Rush doesn't get it, ( and this headline indicates that he doesn't) we as a nation are LOST! That's for certain.

Personally, I think that Rush, Sean, and OReilly are afraid that people will call them “name-callers” if their use the work Marxist.

As for schools, thankfully Rush is now taking daily pot shots at our government schools! Good for him. However, Rush, Sean, and OReilly don't go far enough. It is NOT enough to merely report the government school nuttiness. They need to go one step further. They need to tell their audiences to get their kids out, and to elect official that will shut these indoctrination centers down!

I doubt Rush, Sean, and OReilly will ever go so far as to tell their listeners to get their kids out of the government schools. Why? Answer: Because too many of their listers are utterly addicted to the free babysitting, and/or earn their living directly or indirectly from the government schools.

Personally I think Rush, Sean, and OReilly are smart men who **know** the score but are too timid to do what needs to be done. What a bunch of weenies!

35 posted on 04/06/2008 12:16:09 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: paul51

In the GOP, they are called “moderates” or “compassionate conservatives.”

A less extreme version of the same animal.


36 posted on 04/06/2008 1:11:29 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: imahawk

Elites v. the rest of us pretty well covers it...


37 posted on 04/06/2008 1:12:40 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: wintertime
If only we were facing the drug induced psychedelic liberals in search of free sex from the 60’s... They think of themselves as "Jeffersonian" liberals, but they no longer believe in the "individual liberty" that was at the root of every Jefferson belief. No my friends, these are pure unapologetic Marxists we are fighting today... and we seem to be losing by the way.
38 posted on 04/06/2008 1:17:09 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: wintertime
While I certainly agree that the word "liberal" is the most misused word in the modern lexicon (modern American leftists are anything but liberal), and I would prefer conservatives in the media like Rush to use "leftist" rather than "liberal," there's no question that the use of "Marxist" however aptly would leave them open to a political onslaught that they couldn't recover from. To Rushes credit (I only listen to him and Glenn Beck these days), I've heard him use the term "Stalinist" a lot lately. Glenn Beck come to think of it is pretty unabashed in pointing out the creeping socialism in our country these days, and regulary begins items by shouting "Comrades" and playing the Soviet National Anthem.

All said, Talk show hosts are not going to undo the ravages of the NEA, and pop-culture. There are legions of throughly brainwashed young people leaving our public education systems who while not being able to read or write at level that is common to a slum in Cameroon, can lecture you for hours without a comma about Slavery, Queer Theory, Global Warming and the vileness of patriarchal oppression.

39 posted on 04/06/2008 1:25:03 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Americans are slow to catch on... This has been happening for more than 40 years now. Turns out McCarthy was right.

I agree with everything except the time span. It's more like 70 years since America was infiltrated with Fifth Columnists dedicated to destroy her. Anyone who points out the elephant in the parlor risks being labeled "paranoid." But the historical record is absolutely clear.

40 posted on 04/06/2008 1:34:28 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: VR-21
I certainly agree that the word "liberal" is the most misused word in the modern lexicon

It's interesting that Soviet nuclear spy Julius Rosenberg was code-named "Liberal" by the KGB in the Venona cables. That word, like "progressive," has a "special" meaning to the Fifth Columnists.

41 posted on 04/06/2008 1:45:26 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: VR-21

“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.” - Thomas Jefferson


42 posted on 04/06/2008 2:14:13 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Bernard Marx

About 1929 or so... yes?

When for the first time in American history, government began teaching Americans to look to government for private economic solutions...


43 posted on 04/06/2008 2:16:04 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Bernard Marx
Rosenberg did indeed have that codename, and the revelations of Venona, and declassified Soviet archives have (or should have) vindicated many (including McCarthy) who tried to point out the many State Dept. employees who were security risks. Any bets on whether this is being taught in public schools these days?

The suddenly fashionable term “Progressive” is yet another example of how we have been badly used by those who establish public school curricula. The "Progressives" were not quite the altruistic people that we have long been led to believe. While they believed their intentions were honorable, they were quite capable of being racist and eugenicist and were possessed of a totalitarian impulse that was the often inspiration for the likes of Mussolini and Hitler. Modern American leftists now use the word Progressive to define themselves because it seems to have more elan than "liberal." Unwittingly they are being more honest, because originally (pre FDR) the word "liberal" defined those who wanted to constrain government power, whereas modern leftist are extremely statist as were the Progressives. Jonah Goldberg does a very good job of illustrating this in his "Liberal Fascism."

44 posted on 04/06/2008 2:17:13 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: PlainOleAmerican
"“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.” - Thomas Jefferson"

Hence the antipathy so many leftists (as they are legatees of the Progressives) have for the founders and our existing Constitutional Republic. Great quote!

45 posted on 04/06/2008 2:22:09 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The Communist cell Whittaker Chambers worked with was active through most of the 1920s, as were many others. While spying was sub rosa, Communist "front" organizations operated fully in the open. Unions, especially the CIO and the Longshoremen (ILWU) under Harry Bridges, were turned into virtual Communist organizations in the early 1930s. So were many of the Hollywood unions that Ronald Reagan fought against.

The Depression caused many idealists (some of whom later became prominent "useful idiots," others who became flat-out Communists) to lose faith in capitalism and see the USSR as their shining hope. Many of them gravitated to FDR's administration and were instrumental in shaping pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese Communist policies in the Roosevelt-Truman-Eisenhower years. Spy and traitor Alger Hiss advised FDR at Yalta and was a prime architect of the UN. Others moved into journalism and the universities where their ideological successors remain.

FDR was greatly influenced by Communism. Watch the movie "The Grapes of Wrath," starring Jane Fonda's daddy Henry. It's a great welfare state/Communist propaganda piece.

What's striking as you review the history is that their methods and tactics haven't changed much, if at all. Character assassination is their weapon of choice but theft/suppression of archival documents, "show trial" Congressional hearings like the one that destroyed McCarthy, and constant brainwashing by the media and academy are all part of their armory.

46 posted on 04/06/2008 3:12:54 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

Very informative posts!

Well done!


47 posted on 04/06/2008 3:16:17 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
No my friends, these are pure unapologetic Marxists we are fighting today... and we seem to be losing by the way.(PlainOleAmerican)

there's no question that the use of "Marxist" however aptly would leave them open to a political onslaught that they couldn't recover from.( VR-21)

It's more like 70 years since America was infiltrated with Fifth Columnists dedicated to destroy her. Anyone who points out the elephant in the parlor risks being labeled "paranoid." ( Bernard Marx )

It is Marxism that has always driven the liberals. It is the internal nuclear fuel rod that drives everything they say and do.

I think of it like a train line. Every liberal social, economic, or political policy they have managed to get implemented are merely train stops. The final destination is, and always has been, Soviet style Marxism. Unfortunately, Rush, Sean, and OReilly seem to be asleep on the tracks while the Marxist train rushes ever forward.

I am please to hear that Glen Beck is calling Fifth Column Stalinsts. I do know that Michael Savage has been using the term Bolshevik for many years.

I agree with you, Bernard and VR-21, Rush, Sean, and OReilly would be called paranoid and accused of "name-calling" if they started identifying the Fifth Column as communists and Marxists,,,BUT,,,Glen Beck seems to be doing it with a sense of humor, surely the Three Stooges ( Rush, Sean, and OReilly) could use humor as well. They aren't because, in my opinion, they are weenies.

As for schools, I don't recall Rush, Sean, OReilly, Ingram, or Savage, ever saying that parents should remove their kids from government schools and elect legislators that will close these indoctrination centers down. Personally, I think these talk show hosts are:

1) Too stupid to see what a danger the Marxist indoctrination in our schools is to our nation.

2) Are stupid and oblivious to the problem since they either have no kids, their kids are in private schools, or their kids are grown

3) Do not want to want to offend their listeners who are using government schools or making a living directly or indirectly from them.

My conclusion: They are stupid and/or weenies. This is too bad since talk radio should be, and could be, one of the best weapons against the Marxist Fifth Column.

48 posted on 04/06/2008 3:28:18 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

ACLU


49 posted on 04/06/2008 6:30:10 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Bernard Marx
Watch the movie "The Grapes of Wrath," starring Jane Fonda's daddy Henry. It's a great welfare state/Communist propaganda piece.

The novel was best seller. Are you surprised a movie was made? The film actually softened the novel's politics.
50 posted on 04/21/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by Borges
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