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America's Fifth Column - Aiding and Abetting Our Enemies
Capitol Hill ^ | April 6, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 04/06/2008 7:15:44 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

America has a growing enemy within. This enemy is referred to by experts as America’s Fifth Column. According to Encyclopedia Britannica, the term Fifth Column refers to “A clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity] by any means at their disposal.”

As Britannica notes, the term is credited to Emilio Mola Vidal, a Nationalist general during the Spanish Civil War (1936–39). As four of his army columns moved on Madrid, the general referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his “fifth column,” intent on undermining the loyalist government from within.

Does such a group of subversive agents’ intent upon undermining American unity actually exist today? If they do, who are they, what are their methods and what is their goal?

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Who is the American Fifth Column?

In short, members of the American fifth column can be identified by their open or disguised opposition to pro-American policies, principles or values. Agents of the fifth column can always be identified as those working to “undermine a nation’s solidarity [unity].”

(Excerpt) Read more at capitolhillcoffeehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4thestate5thcolumn; democrats; enemedia; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; globalists; liberals; sedition; socialists; threadjack; treason
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To: VR-21
I certainly agree that the word "liberal" is the most misused word in the modern lexicon

It's interesting that Soviet nuclear spy Julius Rosenberg was code-named "Liberal" by the KGB in the Venona cables. That word, like "progressive," has a "special" meaning to the Fifth Columnists.

41 posted on 04/06/2008 1:45:26 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: VR-21

“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.” - Thomas Jefferson


42 posted on 04/06/2008 2:14:13 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Bernard Marx

About 1929 or so... yes?

When for the first time in American history, government began teaching Americans to look to government for private economic solutions...


43 posted on 04/06/2008 2:16:04 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Bernard Marx
Rosenberg did indeed have that codename, and the revelations of Venona, and declassified Soviet archives have (or should have) vindicated many (including McCarthy) who tried to point out the many State Dept. employees who were security risks. Any bets on whether this is being taught in public schools these days?

The suddenly fashionable term “Progressive” is yet another example of how we have been badly used by those who establish public school curricula. The "Progressives" were not quite the altruistic people that we have long been led to believe. While they believed their intentions were honorable, they were quite capable of being racist and eugenicist and were possessed of a totalitarian impulse that was the often inspiration for the likes of Mussolini and Hitler. Modern American leftists now use the word Progressive to define themselves because it seems to have more elan than "liberal." Unwittingly they are being more honest, because originally (pre FDR) the word "liberal" defined those who wanted to constrain government power, whereas modern leftist are extremely statist as were the Progressives. Jonah Goldberg does a very good job of illustrating this in his "Liberal Fascism."

44 posted on 04/06/2008 2:17:13 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: PlainOleAmerican
"“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.” - Thomas Jefferson"

Hence the antipathy so many leftists (as they are legatees of the Progressives) have for the founders and our existing Constitutional Republic. Great quote!

45 posted on 04/06/2008 2:22:09 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The Communist cell Whittaker Chambers worked with was active through most of the 1920s, as were many others. While spying was sub rosa, Communist "front" organizations operated fully in the open. Unions, especially the CIO and the Longshoremen (ILWU) under Harry Bridges, were turned into virtual Communist organizations in the early 1930s. So were many of the Hollywood unions that Ronald Reagan fought against.

The Depression caused many idealists (some of whom later became prominent "useful idiots," others who became flat-out Communists) to lose faith in capitalism and see the USSR as their shining hope. Many of them gravitated to FDR's administration and were instrumental in shaping pro-Soviet and pro-Chinese Communist policies in the Roosevelt-Truman-Eisenhower years. Spy and traitor Alger Hiss advised FDR at Yalta and was a prime architect of the UN. Others moved into journalism and the universities where their ideological successors remain.

FDR was greatly influenced by Communism. Watch the movie "The Grapes of Wrath," starring Jane Fonda's daddy Henry. It's a great welfare state/Communist propaganda piece.

What's striking as you review the history is that their methods and tactics haven't changed much, if at all. Character assassination is their weapon of choice but theft/suppression of archival documents, "show trial" Congressional hearings like the one that destroyed McCarthy, and constant brainwashing by the media and academy are all part of their armory.

46 posted on 04/06/2008 3:12:54 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

Very informative posts!

Well done!


47 posted on 04/06/2008 3:16:17 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
No my friends, these are pure unapologetic Marxists we are fighting today... and we seem to be losing by the way.(PlainOleAmerican)

there's no question that the use of "Marxist" however aptly would leave them open to a political onslaught that they couldn't recover from.( VR-21)

It's more like 70 years since America was infiltrated with Fifth Columnists dedicated to destroy her. Anyone who points out the elephant in the parlor risks being labeled "paranoid." ( Bernard Marx )

It is Marxism that has always driven the liberals. It is the internal nuclear fuel rod that drives everything they say and do.

I think of it like a train line. Every liberal social, economic, or political policy they have managed to get implemented are merely train stops. The final destination is, and always has been, Soviet style Marxism. Unfortunately, Rush, Sean, and OReilly seem to be asleep on the tracks while the Marxist train rushes ever forward.

I am please to hear that Glen Beck is calling Fifth Column Stalinsts. I do know that Michael Savage has been using the term Bolshevik for many years.

I agree with you, Bernard and VR-21, Rush, Sean, and OReilly would be called paranoid and accused of "name-calling" if they started identifying the Fifth Column as communists and Marxists,,,BUT,,,Glen Beck seems to be doing it with a sense of humor, surely the Three Stooges ( Rush, Sean, and OReilly) could use humor as well. They aren't because, in my opinion, they are weenies.

As for schools, I don't recall Rush, Sean, OReilly, Ingram, or Savage, ever saying that parents should remove their kids from government schools and elect legislators that will close these indoctrination centers down. Personally, I think these talk show hosts are:

1) Too stupid to see what a danger the Marxist indoctrination in our schools is to our nation.

2) Are stupid and oblivious to the problem since they either have no kids, their kids are in private schools, or their kids are grown

3) Do not want to want to offend their listeners who are using government schools or making a living directly or indirectly from them.

My conclusion: They are stupid and/or weenies. This is too bad since talk radio should be, and could be, one of the best weapons against the Marxist Fifth Column.

48 posted on 04/06/2008 3:28:18 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

ACLU


49 posted on 04/06/2008 6:30:10 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Bernard Marx
Watch the movie "The Grapes of Wrath," starring Jane Fonda's daddy Henry. It's a great welfare state/Communist propaganda piece.

The novel was best seller. Are you surprised a movie was made? The film actually softened the novel's politics.
50 posted on 04/21/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
The novel was best seller. Are you surprised a movie was made? The film actually softened the novel's politics.

I really have no idea what set you off. I've read as much or more Steinbeck than you have, and know a great deal about the literature and political/artistic ferment of that era. My post stands on its own in the context of the thread.

51 posted on 04/21/2008 12:44:03 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

I was responding to your suggestion that the 1939 film was made as part of some propaganda campaign.


52 posted on 04/21/2008 1:02:45 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
My post was intended to illustrate the American political zeitgeist of the FDR and Depression years. Is it your position that Hollywood during that period was immune to 'propagandizing' the welfare state socialism espoused by Steinbeck, FDR et al?
53 posted on 04/21/2008 1:38:22 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

My point was that the movie was made for commerical reasons with commerical expectations (that were fullfilled incidentally as the film was also very popular) not as part of some force feeding propaganda campaign.

The ‘Happy Poor/ Miserable Rich’ meme was popular in movies before Steinbeck. Probably before FDR but I’ve had to investigate further to be sure.


54 posted on 04/21/2008 1:47:18 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
I'm not ignoring the fact that the movie was commercially popular. And that was precisely my point: many during the Depression years, including the FDR administration, looked to the USSR as some sort of Valhalla. The movie is a dramatic Marxist class warfare story with all the associated jargon. It reflected FDR's welfare state programs based on the Soviet model.

I remember all too well other pro-Soviet Hollywood propaganda during WWII. It depicted one of the most bloodthirsty tyrants in history as a kindly avuncular, pipe-smoking gentle fellow we all called "Uncle Joe Stalin" even as he and Alger Hiss were pulling the wool over FDR's eyes at Yalta.

If you're looking for literary antecedents, don't overlook "Robin Hood." You're right, the idea of robbing from the rich to give to the poor is a very old meme.

55 posted on 04/21/2008 2:41:36 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

“I remember all too well other pro-Soviet Hollywood propaganda during WWII.”

Weren’t those made by a virtual FDR fiat/commission? What would have been the consequence of making films disparaging the ally at that time.

I was looking at the Chicago Tribune Archives recently back to the 1940s when they carried Hedda Hopper’s column. She claimed ‘Mr. Smith Goes to Washington’ was anti-American propaganda intended to make the U.S. system look corrupt and took special exception to the innocuous 1944 Chopin biopic ‘A Song to Remember’. Her objection was that they made Chopin mouth various revolutionary (read Bolshevik) desires about overthrowing the Tzar whereas the historical Chopin was a nobleman’s son. The fact was that he hated what the Russians were doing to Poland hence his anti-Tzarist feelings.


56 posted on 04/21/2008 3:24:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
There was nothing to be gained by disparaging an "ally." So what was to be gained by turning a bloodthirsty totalitarian tyrant into an iconical "uncle" figure?

While Russia was a wartime "ally," FDR remained nearly terminally obtuse about Communism, Stalin and Soviet aims. He was influenced by the Communists and Fellow Travelers who riddled his administration. Hollywood had more than its share as well. If you choose to sugar-coat those facts I won't waste a lot more time trying to argue with you.

57 posted on 04/21/2008 4:27:41 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

No sugarcoating here. Stalin’s death probably saved my parents’ life as he was planning to ship all Soviet Jews to Siberia in the mid 1950s. But during WW2, the U.S. was operating under an ‘Enemy of My Enemy’ philosophy. BTW could you point out some films from the time which have an affable ‘Uncle Joe’ figure? I’m just curious. ‘Mission to Moscow’ was the famous one...made by the director of Casablanca!


58 posted on 04/21/2008 7:37:21 PM PDT by Borges
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