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Powerful Alan Keyes gun rights speech at the PA Capitol today, w/ GOA's Larry Pratt and others
PA House GOP ^ | April 7, 2008 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 04/07/2008 1:00:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

This was a great event. The whole thing is at this link, but the first quarter or so is Dr. Keyes' speech.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; keyes; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/07/2008 1:00:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
See, this is the kind of thing Alan Keyes ought to be doing, rather than further splitting up the conservative vote in a quixotic run for the Presidency.
2 posted on 04/07/2008 1:05:19 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: EternalVigilance

powerful and alan keyes

Three words I never thought I’d see together.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 1:10:22 PM PDT by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
rather than further splitting up the conservative vote in a quixotic run for the Presidency

Don Quixote tilted at imaginary monsters. Alan Keyes never doe.

The forces that are destroying our republic, personified in John Judas McCain, are very real.

4 posted on 04/07/2008 1:10:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Allen gets my vote.


5 posted on 04/07/2008 1:17:35 PM PDT by pallis
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To: EternalVigilance
Don Quixote tilted at imaginary monsters. Alan Keyes never doe.

Don Quixote was also hopeless in his efforts to return to feudalism. Alan Keyes is equally hopeless in his efforts to become President. I say he ought to preserve his exertions for where he can be really effective - as a stump speaker using his particular brand of emotional appeal to the masses to sway them back towards real conservatism.

7 posted on 04/07/2008 1:21:21 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: Proud Latina Republican
"Keyes is as loony as Ron Paul though in different ways."

Yeah, about as loony as the Founding Fathers.

8 posted on 04/07/2008 1:25:15 PM PDT by labette
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To: Proud Latina Republican

Can you give an example from his speech of one “loony” thing he said?

Personally, I heard one of the best defenses of our right to keep and bear arms ever.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 1:25:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Proud Latina Republican
Keyes is as loony as Ron Paul though in different ways.

Keyes isn't loony, he's actually a pretty solidly well-grounded conservative (all of the overblown tripe about "reparations for slavery" aside, which was somewhat unfairly applied to him). His problem is just that he's "the little engine that not only couldn't, but never will be able to, either".

All the blather about conspiracies aside, you're NOT going to be White House bound when the biggest thing on your resumé is that you were some appointed ambassador to an honourary, rinky-dink UN something or another. The man couldn't even pull 40% in Illinois against the most liberal Senator in DC. This, after a stuffy old conservative white guy beat the stockings off of Carol Mosely-Braun in this supposedly Democrat-dominated State.

10 posted on 04/07/2008 1:26:28 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

John McCain has earned an “F” from Gun Owners of America.

For anyone who cares about protecting the RTKBA, McCain is not a viable choice.

The ultimate in “tilting at windmills” is supporting someone who has proven himself hostile to our God-given, unalienable rights.


11 posted on 04/07/2008 1:28:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
All the blather about conspiracies aside, you're NOT going to be White House bound when the biggest thing on your resumé is that you were some appointed ambassador to an honourary, rinky-dink UN something or another.

You obviously know nothing about Keyes' resume, or what he did in the Reagan administration.

13 posted on 04/07/2008 1:40:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Proud Latina Republican

Looking at your pro-McCain tagline, and considering his F from GOA, your opinions of Dr. Keyes mean very little to me.


14 posted on 04/07/2008 1:42:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Proud Latina Republican

Re your tagline: In the end, a “secure America” is dependent on one thing, and one thing alone: the right to keep and bear arms.


15 posted on 04/07/2008 1:44:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Proud Latina Republican
Actually, I don’t disagree with his defense of our second amendment rights,

You can't possibly agree with what he said here and still agree with McCain. The two things are mutually exclusive.

16 posted on 04/07/2008 1:46:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"See, this is the kind of thing Alan Keyes ought to be doing, rather than further splitting up the conservative vote in a quixotic run for the Presidency."

No, this is what Amb. Keyes should be doing in addition to running for President on a third party ticket. Conservatives are simply not represented in the two major political parties. It's beyond time that conservatives had a political party. If Amb. Keyes is able to help get a viable, conservative third party established, he'll have done far more of a lasting impact than he would by say winning a seat in the Senate. Or tossing a faint endorsement to one of the wretched candidates that the Democrats and Republicans are running.

17 posted on 04/07/2008 2:04:48 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Link doesn’t work for me.
Goes to “redirector” and keeps cycling or something.


18 posted on 04/07/2008 2:05:37 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Proud Latina Republican

“Keyes is as loony as Ron Paul though in different ways.”

GOP definition of “loony”: anyone who has the temerity to suggest that the GOP is not a conservative political party and dares to run a third party challenge.


19 posted on 04/07/2008 2:06:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: tet68

Dang. Works every time I’ve tried it.

Might be a setting on your machine?


20 posted on 04/07/2008 2:09:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance
The ultimate in “tilting at windmills” is supporting someone who has proven himself hostile to our God-given, unalienable rights.

Aren't you tired of Republicans that support non-conservatives (a.k.a. liberals) and then bemoan the poor state of our Country?

On top of this, these bemoaners constantly deride true conservatives, like Alan Keyes, who uphold the Constitution and the Republic that it is based on.

21 posted on 04/07/2008 2:12:57 PM PDT by pby
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To: RKBA Democrat
GOP definition of “loony”: anyone who has the temerity to suggest that the GOP is not a conservative political party and dares to run a third party challenge.

FreeRepublic definition of "loony" ... anyone who unapologetically stands for what we profess to believe.

22 posted on 04/07/2008 2:12:58 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: pby

Yep. I’m so tired of it I’ve shaken the dust off my feet and left the formerly grand OLD party.


23 posted on 04/07/2008 2:15:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Oliver Optic

“FreeRepublic definition of “loony” ... anyone who unapologetically stands for what we profess to believe.”

Sadly, there is more truth in that than many of us would care to admit. However there is a healthy and perhaps growing minority that sees that the GOP and “conservative” are not synonymous terms.


24 posted on 04/07/2008 2:23:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Yep. I’m so tired of it I’ve shaken the dust off my feet and left the formerly grand OLD party.

That...I understand.

After Bush's (McCain's too) support for amnesty for illegals, among other things, it is clear that the GOP is not run by conservatives.

...McCain made that clear in his speech, from the Naval Academy, last week.

25 posted on 04/07/2008 2:29:38 PM PDT by pby
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The qualities required to get elected president and the qualities to effectively execute the duties of the presidency, over the years have become diametrically opposed. Alan Keyes is the man America needs to be president (now more then ever) unfortunately he is not the the man America deserves.


26 posted on 04/07/2008 2:31:17 PM PDT by infool7 (Ignorance isn't bliss its slavery in denial)
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To: Proud Latina Republican
Proud Latina Republican?

Given this qualification, one might assume that you are not a conservative. This is further evidenced by your calling Keyes "loony".

Would one be incorrect with such an assumption?

27 posted on 04/07/2008 2:34:56 PM PDT by pby
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To: EternalVigilance

Link doesn’t work for me. Suggestions?


28 posted on 04/07/2008 2:40:21 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: oldfart

I think it has something to do with your settings, or the programs you have installed.

As soon as it gets posted on a different site I’ll put the links up here.

Sorry.


29 posted on 04/07/2008 3:00:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

That was excellent


30 posted on 04/07/2008 3:10:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Alan Keyes is most the most conservative guy running. He stands for what most of us here profess to believe. Unfortunately he doesnt stand a snowballs chance to do some good for our country.


31 posted on 04/07/2008 3:13:22 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (go to you tube @see screw the state of n.j.)
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To: EternalVigilance

In my state’s recent primary, I voted for Keys, not McCain.


32 posted on 04/07/2008 3:13:52 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: EternalVigilance

Nope, still doesn’t work, goes to redirect then just keeps cycling.


33 posted on 04/07/2008 4:06:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
Link doesn’t work for me. Goes to “redirector” and keeps cycling or something.

Having the same problem. When I click on the link on the redirector page, as Open in new tab, It downloads the video header, with the Seal of the PA House, but nothing more.

34 posted on 04/07/2008 4:55:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: tet68

“Link doesn’t work for me.”

Bypass the redirect:
http://media1.pahousegop.com/video/asx_generator.asp?videoname=170204423.wmv


35 posted on 04/07/2008 4:58:52 PM PDT by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: oldfart

“Link doesn’t work for me. Suggestions?”

See post #35.


36 posted on 04/07/2008 5:00:38 PM PDT by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“I think it has something to do with your settings, or the programs you have installed. As soon as it gets posted on a different site I’ll put the links up here.”

The redirect doesn’t work for me either, but if I bypass it, I can get to the video. See the direct link in post #35.


37 posted on 04/07/2008 5:04:35 PM PDT by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: pby
Given this qualification, one might assume that you are not a conservative.

While I disagree with her on the issues of this thread, one can't be Latina or Latino and conservative?? I'll have ask my Tejano retired Lt.Col. buddy about that. Hope he doesn't take my head off. Actually buddies, one of the guys from my former AF Reserve detachment is Tejano as well. My project manager is a very FR type of Conservative, and also a rabid gunowner (none of his firearms are for "sporting purposes", not a one) yet his mother is a Tejano too.

You might want to rethink that position there sport.

But in case you are wondering, I, OTOH, am as Gringo as one gets, being of English and German ancestory AFAIK. And so is my wife, being Danish, German, Italian (northern most likely) and French, and maybe some Scots Irish on her maternal grandmother's side. She, both our daughters, and all three grandaughters are blue eyed blonds, (except maybe the youngest granddaughters, they have too little hair to tell what color it will be. :) )

38 posted on 04/07/2008 5:08:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

“When I click on the link on the redirector page, as Open in new tab, It downloads the video header, with the Seal of the PA House, but nothing more.”

Are you allowing enough time for buffering?


39 posted on 04/07/2008 5:09:20 PM PDT by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans
Bypass the redirect

I did, still doesn't work, see post 34 above

40 posted on 04/07/2008 5:11:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Kurt Evans
Are you allowing enough time for buffering?

I think so. I can see it loading something, something fairly small as it loads "clear across" very fast. Then it stops.

41 posted on 04/07/2008 5:16:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

“I did, still doesn’t work, see post 34 above”...

Didn’t mean to insult your intelligence. Sorry I can’t help.


42 posted on 04/07/2008 5:16:28 PM PDT by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Thanks for the helping hand.

Apologies to those who can’t make it work. Still loads up every time for me, on an air card, using either the redirect or your link.


43 posted on 04/07/2008 5:22:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
All the blather about conspiracies aside, you're NOT going to be White House bound when the biggest thing on your resumé is that you were some appointed ambassador to an honourary, rinky-dink UN something or another

Try assistant Secretary of State (appointed by Ronald Reagan) and Ambassador to the, admittedly rinky dink UN Economic and Social Council. (The latter was before he became assistant SecState

But what you say is not really true, look at B. Hussein. State Senator and a partial term as US Senator. No executive experience whatsoever, let alone any Foreign Policy experience, yet he's quite likely to be the nominee of one of the two Major parities, and, given the abysmal candidate the Republican primary process has given us, fairly likely to become the President of the United States, who gets to live in the White House... unless he considers that a Racist name. Maybe he'll change it to "The People's Palace" or some such.

44 posted on 04/07/2008 5:54:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Kurt Evans
Didn’t mean to insult your intelligence. Sorry I can’t help

No insult taken. Appreciated the attempt to help.

45 posted on 04/07/2008 6:07:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EternalVigilance

The next time you see Larry Pratt, ask him when he’s going to do something for the Second Amendment instead of making t-shirts.

I asked one member if they could put up a billboard inside Washington D.C. supporting the Second Amendment in light of the coming of the Supreme Court ruling and the answer I received was...[wait for it]....

“Why would they do that?”

Typical.


46 posted on 04/07/2008 7:56:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: EternalVigilance

I managed to work around the redirect.

This is what i finally ended up with. Very good talk.

http://media1.pahousegop.com/video/asx_generator.asp?videoname=170204423.wmv


47 posted on 04/07/2008 8:04:38 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Why didn’t you put up the billboard if you wanted one?


48 posted on 04/07/2008 8:17:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: El Gato; Proud Latina Republican
You might want to rethink that position there sport.

Why?

Using an ethnic qualifier is common for liberals...not conservatives.

The use of this qualifier, coupled with calling Keyes "loony", could be an indicator of the poster's liberalism. I asked the poster to respond to my assumption and, as of yet, the poster has not responded.

More importantly, I never said that one could not be a Latina, or a Latino, and also a conservative. I know many who are both. They, however, do not think that Keyes is "loony".

If you support the Constitution and our Republic, then we can get along in political discussion. While your ethnicity, or anyone else's, may be interesting, it is not more prominent than the fact that you are an American Citizen - ...One Nation under God, indivisible...

49 posted on 04/08/2008 7:13:03 AM PDT by pby
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To: El Gato; Proud Latina Republican
Given this qualification, one might assume that you are not a conservative.

Additionally, one's support for McCain (PLR's tagline) may also be an indicator of one's proclivities towards liberalism.

50 posted on 04/08/2008 7:18:38 AM PDT by pby
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