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'Report on Sept. 6 strike to show Saddam transferred WMDs to Syria'
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Posted on 04/07/2008 1:40:26 PM PDT by jhpigott

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Anyone with eyes knew this back then.
The huge line of vehicles stretching across Western Iraq headed into Syria during the 3 weeks before we went in was a really big clue.”

I’m skeptical. All those people with eyes, but no-one brought a camera and virtually no imagery that we know of. Sure it’s been claimed that the imagery hasn’t been released because we had bigger concerns with the Russians or because we didn’t want the “no WMD” fiction to be exposed, enabling the insurgency to use it. But everything imaginable has been claimed. Research the hundreds of stories, and 99% are just snowballing an original or two that had multiple credibility problems.

I suspect the truth is in the middle, some valuable WMD materials, tools and documents were moved, but not the convoys of semi-trucks and fleets of cargo ships worth. WMD was more fiction than fact, but a lie perpetrated by Saddam, not by us. The most we were guilty of is not recognizing it, that an not making it more clear that there there were a half dozen good reasons to remove Saddam despite his crippled WMD program.


151 posted on 04/08/2008 6:47:56 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: elfman2

Story

152 posted on 04/08/2008 6:56:13 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: jhpigott; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Fiddlstix; devolve; nicmarlo; y'all
An upcoming joint US-Israel report on the September 6 IAF strike on a Syrian facility will claim that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein transferred weapons of mass destruction to the country, Channel 2 stated Monday.

Furthermore, according to a report leaked to the TV channel, Syria has arrested 10 intelligence officials following the assassination of Hizbullah terror chief Imad Mughniyeh.

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Well, well, well !


Verrrrry Interesting!

A caller to one of the talk shows yesterday called Bush
"Dubya, M.D.". Guess Bush will get the last laugh when
history sorts this crap out, huh???

And there is NO DOUBT that Saddam Who's Sane actually
USED WMD's MANY TIMES !!!! But you NEVER hear
that mentioned on ANY news or talk outlet, do ya ???

153 posted on 04/08/2008 7:02:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO makes me wanna reach across the aisle, too. And SLAP some sense into the fools !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Isn’t President Bush suppose to give a big speech tonight or tomorrow to coincide with Petreaus’s testimony? Woonder if this news will be on the agenda?


154 posted on 04/08/2008 7:30:01 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

I dunno. Interesting.

We shall see! :^D


155 posted on 04/08/2008 7:41:33 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO makes me wanna reach across the aisle, too. And SLAP some sense into the fools !!)
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To: ravingnutter

See, this is the distinction that the liberals and the MSM refuse to draw, even though they’re smart enough to know better. They scream about “Saddam had no WMDs.” And he really didn’t, not that we’ve found, except for some ancient chemical shells dating back from before the first Gulf War.

But what he DID have were what got shipped out of the country—THE MANUFACTURING COMPONENTS. “Missile components, reactor vessels, and fermenters,” from your article. The stuff that you set up and use to CREATE the WMDs.

The media and the Democrats have deliberately misled us about this. They can truthfully say “Saddam had no WMDs,” but what they never follow up with is that they could also truthfully say, “but given a fairly short period of time, he could have started producing them.” Maybe not nukes, but biological and chemical weapons for sure. He had empty chemical howitzer shells, and chem agents aren’t exactly high-tech to produce. If some moron in a motel room in Las Vegas can damn near kill himself with some ricin, you don’t think a government flush with billions of dollars in illegal UN Oil-For-Food kickbacks couldn’t produce enough ricin to be dangerous?

}:-)4


156 posted on 04/08/2008 8:02:23 AM PDT by Moose4 (If you get robbed, raped, or killed in Durham County, NC today, thank a probation officer.)
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To: wolfpat

“In 2004, the police in Jordan seized 20 tons of chemical weapons coming over the border from Syria.”

This news would not have helped in the eternal quest to get John KErry elected president, so it was UTTERLY IGNORED by the US Media, and down the memory hole it went.

Now, it’s “Old News”, and is “meaningless”...


157 posted on 04/08/2008 8:05:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: elfman2
The imagery does/did exist. It was filmed by the major media outlets. I saw it on Fox and others. The 'others' gave it brief exposure but Fox had it on and hammered it for a week at the time.

This is the main reason I am incredulous when I hear, "There were no WMD".

158 posted on 04/08/2008 8:13:08 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A couple of pints and a package of crisps....ahhh. Life's good.)
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To: pnh102

It’s useful now.


159 posted on 04/08/2008 8:23:06 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: jhpigott

Wow! This could be a big deal if we can confirm.


160 posted on 04/08/2008 8:28:32 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you share Wright's pews, you share his views.)
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To: elhombrelibre

There’s another issue: the CIA itself.

If you were an Israeli, and knew the whole story, the last outfit in the world you would want to share the information with would be the CIA. They have been at war with the Administration and have a reputation for leaking to the Press.

I would not be surprised if CIA were completely frozen out of the whole Syrian operation at Israeli insistence.


161 posted on 04/08/2008 8:37:20 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: 353FMG

“How such an important event could have remained hidden for so long is a mystery to me.”

If you stop and begin to slowly think through and look back at what has occured, it begins to become clear that there is a lot of stuff going on with Russia and the help they gave to Iraq and Hussein. Very little of this has become public.

There is NO DOUBT that Iraq moved a great deal of WMD material to Syria. WHY DID PRESIDENT BUSH NOT PUBLICLY PURSUE THIS?

Think about it. He was being crucified in the media. WOrld opinion was rapidly turning against us. Why not expose this and garner some good publicity?

There HAD to be other factors at play. The biggest thing I can think of is Russia and their involvement.


162 posted on 04/08/2008 8:50:19 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: section9

Maybe you’re right. The CIA has had a history of selective leaking. I know this for sure.


163 posted on 04/08/2008 9:26:15 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you share Wright's pews, you share his views.)
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To: Bryan24
Bush's trust in Putin has always left me scratching my head. In this instance, I prefer McCain on Putin; “When I look into the eyes of Putin, I see 3 letters... K G B”

This nation continues to trust Russia at our peril, IMO.

164 posted on 04/08/2008 10:03:17 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Obama! IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

FNC hasn’t taken any interest in this story.


165 posted on 04/08/2008 10:17:11 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks.

DLI, 1992-1993


166 posted on 04/08/2008 10:41:09 AM PDT by Azeem (Only thing worse than war is peace at all costs.)
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To: rhombus

Exact numbers of RJs are classified but I’ve worked on most of them.

The RJ was a creature of comfort compared to the EC-130 Compass Call.

But I’d sure like that in-flight service we were supposed to have. All we had were Ravens.


167 posted on 04/08/2008 10:48:57 AM PDT by Azeem (Only thing worse than war is peace at all costs.)
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To: section9; All

Have you read Kenneth Timmerman’s new book :’Shadow Warriors’? If not, please put it on your must read list!


168 posted on 04/08/2008 12:31:43 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: do the dhue

Did you see this?


169 posted on 04/08/2008 1:42:36 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

No and thanks for the ping. Have to ping Gunther.


170 posted on 04/08/2008 4:01:52 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: wolfpat

Syria has its own chemical weapons production facilites. It has had them for years.

http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Syria/Chemical/2973.html


171 posted on 04/08/2008 5:48:11 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: bert; demsux; AFPhys; Wolverine; ravingnutter; jhpigott
More information on Iraq and Lybia WMD ties here -->> Posts 80-85
172 posted on 04/08/2008 7:34:07 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Dog

Yes, and there are still WMD’s in Iraq. That mass murderer couldn’t let all of ‘em leave Iraq.


173 posted on 04/08/2008 8:00:21 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

bookmark


174 posted on 04/09/2008 9:13:17 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: pnh102

One of the most frustrating things about President Bush, is that he has proven to be a very ineffective communicator, in the White House. This is particularly bothersome, because the Preseident can employ a team of expert communicators to do most of it for him, and the best he was able to do was employ Tony Snow.


175 posted on 04/09/2008 9:54:40 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: drzz

bump


176 posted on 04/11/2008 11:21:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bert

The Missing WMDs is certainly a mystery.

I think the American public are tired of the “Bush Lied, People Died” garbage.

Time to put a new record on!

Our military did have survellince
over Iraq 24/7. I’m sure they know more about what happen to the WMDs but currently keeping quiet.

I think the Bush Administration kept quite about the WMD because of real security concerns. If I remember right many Iraqi scientist were assassinated when they started to talk to Dr. Kay. The ISG team were nearly assissinated too. The ISG never really completed their job because of the insurgency.

Another factor, ISG are all civilians. They had to wait for the military to make things secure. They were not able to defend themselves.

ISG were late coming into the scene.

Could it be possible 75th Exploitation Task Force got there first and moved the WMDs out of harms way?

Remember the stink by the left over the unguarded uranium stockpiles?

Our military did airlift two tons of the stuff out of Iraq. What else did they airlifted out?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124924,00.html

Could the British found the WMDs and moved them...how about the Polish? Didn’t the Polish sent a special division specializing in CW?

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/index.html?siteSect=143&sid=5055996

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/2/112615.shtml

I also thought it would be better for the Coalition Forces to say they couldn’t find the WMD. This would prevent AQI from using them and to give Bush creditability.

Just a thought.


177 posted on 04/11/2008 7:49:54 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: LS

Putting it on my reading list.....thanks .


178 posted on 04/12/2008 1:11:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ernest, do you know when this report was supposed to be sent to Congress?

I recall it was this week?

Thanks!

179 posted on 04/17/2008 3:04:51 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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