Skip to comments.Revered Jeremiah Wright, "former Muslim" (?!)
Posted on 04/07/2008 2:29:18 PM PDT by Timeout
Today I came across this year-old, largely biographical article about Barack Obama. It reads as though Lizza relied on Obama for large chunks of the piece, with other material coming from his books and interviews with those who knew him.
About 2/3's down the page, I came across this astonishing nugget:
After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright's church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for "Buppies"--black urban professionals--and didn't have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity's guiding principles--what the church calls the "Black Value System"--included a "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.'"Wright is a "former Muslim"?!
I've never seen this anywhere else. Where did Lizza get it....from Obama? From Wright (whom he apparently interviewed)?
Have any of you ever heard that before?
Probably a disciple of Calypso Louie
Yup! Just switched to where he saw a better cash-flow!
Well, he practically worships Louis, so probably so.
Wright's "church" could be taqiyaa (Nation of Islam flavor) on a commercial scale (and typical white people would never suspect a thing).
These people must be Muslims operating under a false “Christian” conversion in order to come into power under the radar.
No, I don't have a link. I saw an article on that here a few days ago (say, 03/17-03/25) and some posts that referred to it, but I didn't save the link, and I've since deleted my browsing history. If you're interested, maybe someone here will post a link.
“The Muslim perspective is that there is no such thing as a “former Muslim”. He is an apostate Muslim. Islamic law demands the death penalty for that offense.”
That would apply to Obama as well being born of a Muslim father.
Check out this website http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998112/posts Put this on every website you can. People need to know what this guy is all about.
Muslim congressman speaks at symposium
April 7, 2008
By Michael Drakulich, Staff Writer
The first Muslim elected to U.S. Congress shared some of his experiences as an elected official with those who hope to follow in his footsteps one day.
Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) was keynote speaker at the Muslim Youth Leadership Symposium, hosted by the Chicago office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
The symposium was held at the Mosque Foundation Community Center, 7260 W. 93rd St., in Bridgeview.
The two-day event brought together Muslim high school students from the area to inspire them to use their faith values toward constructive citizenship, benefiting their communities and country.
Ellison told the 100 or so students in the audience being in a position of leadership means not only recognizing problems, but finding the solutions to them. And he said it would be up to them to build cultural understanding.
He encouraged students to look within themselves and embrace the challenges they face as Muslims, even if those challenges seem unfair.
“You’ve been given a gift, an opportunity to face adversity with courage, with patience, with the assistance of prayer. And to come out on the other side of it more successful than you were before. Find out about things about yourself you didn’t know before,” he said.
Ellison told of the adversity he’s faced as a Muslim such as during his run for Congress when Robert Fine, brother of his opponent Alan Fine, called him a terrorist.
During such trying times, he received support from his family and friends during the campaign. He said it was his faith that helped carry him.
He said teachings in the Koran could help the racial divide in America. And he encouraged students to embrace and answer questions about their faith, even if those questions seem repetitive.
“Let’s use what we have, what our faith is all about, to help America get over the barrier of racial division and false barriers based on color,” he said.
Ellison went on to say if more people knew of what Islam had to teach, the controversy created by statements from presidential candidate Barack Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, might not have occurred.
Ellison took questions from the audience. At one point, he was asked whether Republican presidential candidate John McCain should be forgiven for saying he would never vote for a Muslim presidential candidate.
He reiterated Islam’s teaching of mercy.
“That’s what it means to be Muslim. To want the best for everyone, even if they want to chop you up into little pieces,” he said.
Michael Drakulich can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org or (708) 802-8841.
What a load of BS from another Obama politician
Makes sense. Wright’s rants are virtually indistinghuisable from those of Muslim black nationalists. A Christian, he isn’t. ...and neither is B-HO.
Christian, Muslim, Black Muslim, whatever it takes.
I would suggest that Conservatives need to learn how to gain public power. It is something that is clearly lacking in our mindset. I'm not all that familiar with Saul Alinsky; I know that Hillary Clinton was a devotee of his. And now we find out Obama was. Whatever. We need to rip a page out of their playbook (maybe even the whole book) and read it, study it, learn it, and apply it. Why are Conservatives so LAZY??? No wonder the Liberals are rolling over us, and changing our society daily. They're changing our society, and we're letting them. This forum is good for an exchange of ideas. But I'm coming to the conclusion that we're just talking amongst ourselves and not DOING anything. We're not out in the real word WHERE IT COUNTS. The Libs are organized, they've got playbooks, they've got power. What do we have?
Really, I think he meant to say “to want the best for everyone, even if you have to chop them up into little pieces.”
Does this make sense? LOL
According to what I have read, it is acceptable and even honorable in that religion to lie in order to achieve the ultimate goal.
Where there’s smoke...
You got it right. It is permissible for muslims to lie in order to further their cause.
Al taqiyah -- the principle that it is Ok to lie if it gives advantage to a Muslim over a non-Muslim.
# Dr. Wright is a student of the history of religions. His masters degree from the University of Chicago is in that discipline and his area of concentration as an historian of religions was Islam in West Africa. While a student at the University of Chicago (U of C) he studied with the esteemed Islamic professor, Dr. Fazlur Rahman.link
# Dr. Wrights Masters thesis at the Divinity School of the U of C was the Tijaniyya among the Bambara, the Fulbe and the Tuckolour. The Tijaniyya was a 19th Century Sufi movement (a sect of Sufism) which swept into West Africa during the period of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade.
islamist is as islamist does, Black Jesus here notwithstanding.
I read someplace that Rev. Wright majored in "Muslim Studies" at Howard.
I'll see if I can find it in my extensive O'bama file.
The statements of Jeremiah Wright aren’t controversial and incendiary;
Slate | March 24, 2008 | Christopher Hitchens
Posted on 04/07/2008 2:31:19 PM PDT by george76
BARACK OBAMA HID HIS FATHER’S SOCIALIST
AND ANTI-WESTERN CONVICTIONS FROM HIS READERS
presto pundit | April 7, 2008 | Greg Ransom
Posted on 04/07/2008 2:14:40 PM PDT by Mount Athos
If this nation elects this freak, we’ll probably have Osama bin Laden sleeping over in the Lincoln Bedroom.
When he took over Trinity United Church of Christ in 1972, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. was a maverick pastor with a wardrobe of dashikis and a militant message.
He graduated from Howard University and earned bachelor's and master's degrees in English with a focus on African spirituals. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, he earned another masters degree in the history of religions with a focus on Islam.
Go down to second picture: Obama's Religion click on it and go down to entry under year 1990 - left hand column. You'll find it there.
This file is a very extensive compilation of Obama's history and background. I can't vouch for its accuracy - but there is a wealth of material that should raise questions and controversy in it.
Thanks. Not exactly what I’d consider a unbiased source. I tried to find a legitimate biography of Wright that mentioned his education, but I didn’t find anything.
Anybody know of historical cases of muslims utilizing takeya claiming to be Christian (temporarily) in order to advance the umma?
Wright has said he has know him for 30 years and back when he was known as Louis X, the calypso singer.
Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright: Former Muslim
April 7, 2008
“A reader from Free Republic has dug up an old article last year (March 07) From TNR about Obama. It was written by Ryan Lizza, Senior editor at The New Republic. Itâs a biographical piece, but in the article, it explicitly states that Jeremiah Wright is a former Muslim.”
Read the last two comment posts.
Hugh Hewitt found that Obama himself mentions Wright’s Muslim background in his (Obama’s) book.
Barack Obama provides an account of his meeting Rev. Wright in Dreams from my Father, as well as this brief bio on p. 282:
“He had grown up in Philadelphia, the son of a Baptist minister. He had resisted his father’s vocation at first, joining the Marines out of college, dabbling with liquor, Islam, and black nationalism in the sixties. But the call of his faith had apparently remained, a steady tug on his heart, and eventually he’d entered Howard, then the University of Chicago, where he spent six years studying for a Ph.D. in the history of religion. “
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to
prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that
seemed delightfully uncalculated [...], Mr. Obama described the
call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at
Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
I agree with your comments.
Wouldn’t both of these high-profile people be considered dangerous apostates? Yes, I believe they would.
Makes me say hmmmm, too.
WOW! Thank you very, very much for posting, Timeout.
I found this FR thread in a roundabout way from...poster gramfan’s link at jihadwatch here...
...linking to infidelsarecool blog here...
...linking to your post at Free Republic in their 1st sentence.
Many thanks to Ryan Lizza at The New Republic.
If there is a "legitimate biography" of Wright, a relatively famous and/or notorious person, that doesn't mention his educational background and major in college, that is suspicious in and of itself.
We need a Chicago freeper to check out The Chicago Divinity School's records.
>>>He reiterated Islams teaching of mercy.<<<
Yep. Ask Nick Berg and Danny Pearl. They're familiar with the concept.