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Civil liberties union concerned about mug shots appearing online
EXAMINER.com ^ | 8 April 2008 | not identified

Posted on 04/08/2008 5:38:05 AM PDT by radar101

Mug shots taken of suspected shoplifters and then posted online has spurred debate over the rights of people who may or may not have committed a crime.

Avondale has joined the list of cities posting mugshots over the Internet.

The photos show adults arrested and accused of shoplifting, even if they haven't been convicted of a crime.

Avondale police officials said it's a way of helping merchants by cracking down on shoplifting, which peaked at 94 reports in October.

The American Civil Liberties Union along with defense attorneys question whether the practice infringes on citizens' rights. "I think we have to look at this from a public-policy perspective and ask if the program is effective," said Alessandra Soler Meetze, executive director of the ACLU of Arizona.

"This is part of a growing trend to penalize people who are arrested, no matter if they're cleared later," she said.

In Arizona, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office displays convicted DUI offenders' photos.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office posts photos online of suspects booked into its jails for about three days.

Avondale becomes the first metro Phoenix city to zero in on shoplifting through the same tactic.

"(Stores) keep on losing merchandise. And with that, they keep on losing profit," said Sgt. Memo Espinoza, an Avondale police spokesman. "Our purpose is not to embarrass the individuals."

Store managers like the picture posting and think it's a deterrent.

Janet Becchina, who manages a Walgreens in Avondale, said she fights store theft daily, sometimes confronting shoplifters without bothering to contact police.

She already hangs photos of shoplifters at the store, but posting their pictures online could be extra helpful, Becchina said.

Viewing the photos could help her employees recognize suspects' faces if they enter her store, she said.

Legal experts said Avondale's program could taint a jury pool, making it difficult to get a fair trial.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; internet; policestate

1 posted on 04/08/2008 5:38:05 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Screw the aclu.


2 posted on 04/08/2008 5:39:55 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron; ISBN 1-4137-5397-3.)
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To: BamaAndy

Richard Jewel disagrees on this point.

Why the rush to “convict” in the media in absence of a trial?

Where is the online photo database of crooked cops accused of things, prior to any hearing?


3 posted on 04/08/2008 5:45:18 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: radar101

If they’ve been convicted, the ACLU has nothing to complain of.

If they are not being posted by the government, the ACLU has nothing to complain of.

If there is no conviction, and the government is doing the posting, then complain to the legislature, not the courts.


4 posted on 04/08/2008 5:48:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: weegee

Hollywood should make a movie about Richard Jewell............


5 posted on 04/08/2008 5:49:03 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: radar101

I can see mug shots and addresses where sex offenders live in my neighborhood. I want to be able to see the same for all violent criminals and vandals. Make it so that undesirables are run out of town and have a hard time finding a place to live and work.


6 posted on 04/08/2008 6:11:02 AM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: radar101
I'll admit that every Friday night I can't wait to visit Smoking Gun for their mugshot roundup.

It is funnier than Redneck Scrapbook.(unless you see your neighbor in the lineup)

7 posted on 04/08/2008 6:22:58 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Haddit

Wait till you get falsely accused of something and then see what it takes to get your name cleared.

Accusations shouldn’t equal guilt.

(Convictions, though, are another matter. )


8 posted on 04/08/2008 6:24:15 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: radar101

I walked into a drugstore, saw the lines at the cashier were too long and walked out.

As I went through the exit the alarm bells rang. I kept walking and the next thing I knew three security guards were running after me, accusing me of stealing from the store.

I refused to let them touch me or look into my pocketbook; I told them they would have to call the police, that I was in the store for seconds and I didn’t steal anything.

They relented and left me. It was very embarrassing.

Later, at home I emptied my pocketbook out and took all the tags and price-tags off makeup and everything else to make sure it wouldn’t happen again.


9 posted on 04/08/2008 6:26:26 AM PDT by diefree
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To: Haddit

But that would be a consequence for behavioral choices,

and the left is all about removing all consequences for behavioral choices.


10 posted on 04/08/2008 6:28:15 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: radar101

I hate to admit that the ACLU might have a point here.

If someone’s convicted of a crime, it’s gone to trial and the evidence has been considered and judged, that’s one thing. I have no mercy.

If someone has only been ACCUSED, that’s another. We’re still working on *innocent until proved guilty* and posting mugs of people accused of crimes but not yet convicted, implies that they are guilty. And once that’s in someone’s mind, that suspicion is always there.

So now that I find myself apparently agreeing with the ACLU, I need to take a harder look at either what I believe, or what they’re up to. Whenever they do something that seems to make sense, I always suspect there’s some ulterior motive because it’s inconceivable to me that what they are doing really is in the best interests of this country or it’s citizenry.


11 posted on 04/08/2008 6:51:53 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BallyBill

I live in Gwinnett County in Georgia and there is a website that posts the mugshots of all ‘alleged’ criminals booked into the county jail daily.

I have to get my daily dose of perp pics.

http://www.scangwinnett.com/mugshots/


12 posted on 04/08/2008 8:17:38 AM PDT by Dacula (I am white, therefore I must be a racist.)
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To: Haddit
I want to be able to see the same for all violent criminals and vandals.

So it's okay for con-men, the kind of people who might bilk you out of your life savings, to remain anonymous?

13 posted on 04/08/2008 9:11:27 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: radar101

I am sure the Duke 88 will not be happy with the ACLU.


14 posted on 04/08/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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