Posted on 04/08/2008 8:50:17 AM PDT by neverdem
Brady Campaign won't get permit for event on April 16
Virginia Tech said yesterday that it will not allow a national gun-control advocacy group to hold a campus demonstration on April 16 while the school commemorates last year's massacre.
Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said neither the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence nor the co-sponsor of the planned demonstration, ProtestEasyGuns.com, had applied for an assembly permit, and even if they had, Tech only issues permits to student groups.
Tech's position threw the Brady Campaign's plans into disarray yesterday: The noon demonstration at Tech was supposed to be the centerpiece of a nationwide series of events on April 16 in more than 70 cities and towns.
"I think we'll have to figure out what's going on," said Brady Campaign spokesman Doug Pennington. He added that students and friends of last year's shooting victims are among those who want to participate in the demonstration, "so, I'm sure where there's a will, there's a way without breaking any rules."
The planned demonstration at Tech called for individuals to lie down on the Drillfield in groups of 32 -- to recall the 32 victims of gunman Seung-Hui Cho -- for a few minutes. The brevity of the "lie-in" is meant to highlight how quickly a gun can be purchased in the United States. The Brady Campaign is calling on Congress to mandate background checks of buyers at gun shows.
Tech is marking the shootings on April 16 with a ceremony that begins in the morning and is expected to run past noon. The daylong memorial ends with an evening candlelight vigil.
Hincker said no student group will be given an assembly permit for the Drillfield at noon.
"We expect that the ceremony will likely cross the noon hour, and we will not be allowing..."
(Excerpt) Read more at inrich.com ...
It’s been said before, I know, but it’s worth noting that an armed student or two in those killing field Virginia Tech classrooms might have saved many lives.
At least the group advocating concealed carry on campuses had the good sense to wait until the week after April 16 for their next demonstrations.
This is the first time I have ever agreed with them on anything.
Maybe I should go out and buy a gun on the morning of April 16th to commemorate how the whole tragedy might have been stopped if just one carry permit holder had been legally allowed to have his “easy gun” on campus.
We have that already.
It worked at Appalachian State.
Indeed.
Do you hear yourself, Doug? Trouble is, criminals don't give a flip about rules, so please stop writing them. But they do have the will and the way, thanks to many like you.
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I confess to smiling a bit while reading this! Actually, it was a bit more than a smile, more like a huge guffaw!
Perhaps they mean background checks if you and I, presuming that neither of us are dealears, were to make a trade or sale between us.
Actually, they're lying down to make it easier for someone to walk up and shoot them in the head, one by one. That's to recall the doe-in-the-headlights strategy of Virginia Tech's President Hinckley and the rest of the world's gun-control enthusiasts.
“Gun-Free Zone” = Target Rich Environment.
Though some still remain uncomfortable about students and teachers being armed on campus. Va. Tech left little doubt that a no-gun policy is a rining dinner bell for predators.
http://concealedcampus.org/
OK, A joke....
Q: What did the one solitary Brady brain cell say to itself?
A: “I think we’ll have to figure out what’s going on!”
Well....I at least tried..! :)
Those fools are their own worst enemies. And thank goodness for that.
Have you seen the You tube of Carolyn McCarthy, the NY Congresswoman who is an anti-gun whacko, discussing barrel shrouds and why they should be banned?
Here it is, near the one-year anniversery of her laughably stupid comments, with apologies to those who have already seen it (posted on FR previously):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U
“That’s to recall the doe-in-the-headlights strategy of Virginia Tech’s President Hinckley...”
No such person at Virginia Tech.
Awesome news....thanks!
“It worked at Appalachian State.”
I think you’re referring to the Appalachian School of Law, which has nothing to do with Appalachian State.
Unfortunately, that incident doesn’t really seem to be much of an example of saving lives with concealed weapons. Neither armed person was actually carrying his weapon; both weapons were locked in cars and had to be retrieved. By that time, the perp had finished shooting.
Both armed men were trained LEOs, not just regular citizens, and yet neither actually fired on the suspect. Most witnesses said the perp had laid his weapon down and had been tackled by an UNARMED bystander before the armed men arrived.
Whatever the case, Odighizuwa (the perp) would not have killed or wounded many more, if any. Some reports say that he had already shot all his ammunition, while others say he had just three bullets left. Cho, by comparison, had about 170 rounds left when he killed himself.
Seems to me a much better example of an armed person saving lives would be the Colorado church shootings.
The day after the killings last year, Virginia Governor Tim “Spock” Kaine let us all know how much he desises people who would politicize such a tragedy. On that occasion his vitriolic anger was directed at a person who asked him during a press conference whether the campus ban on guns may have been a factor in the high death toll.
I’m guessing he must REALLY hate the Brady Campaign folks for trying their little stunt... or not.
He is, after all, not JUST our Governor, he is also a fully functioning hypocritical dirt bag.
Then they need to call it what it really is. Private sales anywhere, not “unlicensed dealers”, “Gun shows”, etc.
VT is my graduate alma mater, and even though the faculty is infected by the usual liberal nincumpoopism, the student body (except in Engineering, which is mainly Indian and Muslim) hails largely from Conservative, 2nd Amendment loving Southwest Virginia and won’t put up with the Brady Bunch shenangians.
The Appalachian School of Law is in my hometown, and its students are mostly locals, who know how to handle their firearms and subscribe to Teddy Roosevelt’s “cold dead hands” dictum.
I think they’re referring to the “Gun Show Loophole.”
Ask McCain about it.
I’m familiar with Grundy and the general area. My wife is from Cllintwood and I’ve known people from and visited Clinchco, Haysi, Wise, Norton, Cleveland, St. Paul, Lebanon, Big Stone Gap, and on and on. Also spent a good deal of time down there as a reporter covering the Pittston coal strike in the early 1990s.
Ping for viewing after work...
No such person at Virginia Tech.
Excuse me all to heck. VT President is Charles W. Steger. The spokesman was named Hincker—who I assume issued the statement because Steger is still hiding under his desk.
Can't imagine why my brain morphed everything to "Hinckley" when the subject was a nut with a gun. Well actually, I can.
I've got some good buddies living in all the places you mentioned and have family living in Haysi.
“...the student body (except in Engineering, which is mainly Indian and Muslim) hails largely from Conservative, 2nd Amendment loving Southwest Virginia and won’t put up with the Brady Bunch shenangians.”
Afraid that’s not true any more. In fall 2007, among undergraduate students, 6,252 came from Northern Va. counties. Just 516 came from Southwest counties. If you add in southern Piedmont and the Valley, you still get just 4,500 (source is the university’s institutional research department). NOVA has more money, overall better schools, and, of course, a whole lot more people.
“Counties were flooded with Virginia State troopers, who all had a rough time of it with the miners and the local communities. Camouflage became the official color of the region for the next several years:)”
I still have my souvenir camouflage that I bought as a memento. Covered Jessie Jackson AND Elizabeth Dole coming down there. Also spent a few days at the Carbo (???) plant takeover. I already knew a bunch of troopers and then got to know strikers because of my wife’s connections to the area.
I hardly know anybody down there any more. My wife’s relatives who are still there are getting ancient. One of her uncles, though, is the real-life “Shifty” from Band of Brothers. He lives near Clinchco.
Carbo is a big coal-fired power plant near St. Paul. We went there once on a field trip when I was at Southwest Virginia Community College. Pretty dirty place but pretty impressive.
“Shifty” Powers is one heckuva a good man! I’m glad that Ambrose told his story. U-2 pilot Francis “Frank” Gary Powers was from Pound, but went to school for a time in grundy.
:“Shifty” Powers is one heckuva a good man! I’m glad that Ambrose told his story. U-2 pilot Francis “Frank” Gary Powers was from Pound, but went to school for a time in grundy.”
My wife is a Powers/Sykes. Her mother is Darrel’s sister. Definitely a good guy. Age is catching up, though. He’s pretty much blind now.
So true... and much to the shame of VT. I’m a grad from Southwest Virginia (SOWEVA — opposite of NOVA) from 20 years ago. The school was much better then than now.
I know for a fact as I work here at VT now. :(
Hoss
I remember driving through Grundy with some friends to get to Breaks Interstate Park on the VA/KY line. Is it just me, or is the town of Grundy about four miles long and fifty yards wide because it’s pinned in by those mountains on both sides of US 460? :)
One of the friends I took that trip with lives in Parrott (way out in the sticks past the Radford Arsenal) but he works at VT. He was there on 4/16, but had no clue about what was going on until it was all over.
I’m a 1987 JMU grad, but a ton of my high school friends went to VT. Man, is it beautiful down there.
}:-)4
Great to hear there are some people in the educational field willing to just say no.
Me too Basil... :)
Wow! Big turnaround from when I was there back in 1997-1998.
Given the geography of the place, I understand why they’d want to do that, but it’s still sad. It was certainly one of the more unique towns I’ve ever been through.
}:-)4
Some of the towns are even more hemmed in than Grundy — like Haysi. Also, I don’t know when you went through, but they’ve moved the main part of town from one side of the river to the other to keep it from flooding in the future.
You can see a [icture of how squeezed in the town is by going to grundyvirginia.com.
Low crime rate around here ~ murder rate is lower than that at VT and will be for many years unfortunately.
“lie-in” is the perfect name for any event by this hack group.
And this is what pisses me off about McCain as well. Lucky for him, I despise his two opponents and have one issue that trumps even guns. SCOTUS.
“Low crime rate around here ~ murder rate is lower than that at VT and will be for many years unfortunately.”
How witty.
Except for April 16, 2007, perhaps you should look at the number of murders on campus for the past few decades. Anybody with an ounce of sense would feel safer here than in most sections of NOVA.
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