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TODAY: Kansas Supreme Court Hears Tiller Case [Abortion-mill doctor subpoenaed]
CitizenLink ^ | 4/8/08 | Devon Williams

Posted on 04/08/2008 3:51:01 PM PDT by XR7

The Kansas Supreme Court heard arguments today over subpoenaed medical records of notorious abortionist George Tiller, who is accused of performing late-term abortions — which are illegal in Kansas — at his Wichita clinic.

In January, the Sedgwick County grand jury subpoenaed about 2,000 late-term abortion records from Tiller’s clinic; the judge reduced that to 250. Tiller is refusing to turn over the records, claiming it would violate his patients’ privacy. However, the grand jury requested that all patient-identifying information be redacted from the subpoenaed records before the jury receives them.

Tiller's attorneys argued the grand jury investigation constitutes harassment, but several justices were skeptical of that claim, The Associated Press reported.

Operation Rescue President Troy Newman said the people who demanded this grand jury are tired of Tiller’s repeated obstructions.

"Tiller just doesn't want the grand jury to see anything — not the records, not the inside of his clinic, not the abortion process, and certainly not the truth," he said. “The Supreme Court needs to allow the grand jury to do its job and conduct an honest and thorough investigation."

Donna Lippoldt of the developing Kansas Family Policy Council participated in a prayer rally outside of Tiller’s clinic during the hearing. She was joined by pro-life groups, including Kansans for Life, Operation Save America, Pro-Life Kansas and Heartbeat Ministires.

Several life advocates also gathered for a rally outside the Supreme Court building in Topeka.

“If there is no way to hold George Tiller accountable, if he doesn’t ever have to produce any records, then how are we ever going to have any laws enforced in regard to stopping abortion?” Lippoldt asked. “If the Supreme Court of the state of Kansas denies the grand jury access to the redacted medical records to prove that laws have been broken, then George Tiller is truly above the law.”

A banner hanging outside Tiller’s clinic reads, “Wichita Stands with Dr. George Tiller. 35 Years of Saving Women’s Lives,” but Lippoldt said she does not see support for Tiller.

“George Tiller has bought so much influence over the last 35 years,” she said. “But if you go to the records, you’re going to find out that there has never been an instance in the last 35 years where George Tiller did an abortion to save a woman’s life.”

The Kansas Department of Health and Environment is reporting that almost half of the abortions in the state over the last decade have been performed on out-of-state women. In the past two years, nearly 90 percent have come from Missouri.

Operation Rescue’s Newman said many of those women came to see Tiller.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; babykillers; babykilling; butcher; cultureofdeath; doctorsofdeath; euthanasia; feminazis; genocide; infanticide; prolife; rats; tiller
Maybe some could argue the morality of "terminating" early preganancies.
There is no defense for killing almost full-term infants.
Unless your last name is Mengele, or Tiller.
What are we now reaping as a nation for allowing this to go on for so long?
1 posted on 04/08/2008 3:51:02 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
The Kansas Supreme Court heard arguments today over subpoenaed medical records of notorious abortionist George Tiller, who is accused of performing late-term abortions — which are illegal in Kansas — at his Wichita clinic.

Incorrect. Late term abortions are unfortunately legal in Kansas and the law is very lax. If two doctors agree that continued pregnancy is detrimental to the woman's health the post-viability abortions can be performed. It is this loophole that Tiller has exploited.

2 posted on 04/08/2008 4:00:24 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Tiller the Baby Killer


3 posted on 04/08/2008 4:13:39 PM PDT by Riptides
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To: XR7
“Wichita Stands with Dr. George Tiller. 35 Years of Saving Women’s Lives,”

Make that 35 years and untold thousands of murdered unborn children.

4 posted on 04/08/2008 4:14:26 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: wagglebee

FYI


5 posted on 04/08/2008 4:33:29 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Tiller is a serial murderer. He is but a fleck in the tapestry of what is euphemistically named ‘choice in America’, the murderous scheme for empowerment used by the democrat party. The people perish for lack of wisdom ... too many calling themselves Christians are voting for people like Obama and Clinton, Feinstein and Boxer, Kennedy and Harkin, all of whom not only condone this evil slaughter of alive unborn children but defend it and fund it!


6 posted on 04/08/2008 4:34:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: XR7
Photobucket I'm from Kansas and this has disgusted me for a while. It's amazing in the bible belt we bare these atrocities.
7 posted on 04/08/2008 4:43:43 PM PDT by xuberalles ("Barack Obama: Change Is A Dime Bag!" http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees.225246874)
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To: MHGinTN
Tiller is a serial murderer.

Perhaps. But what never ceases to amazes me is that Operation Rescue and their ilk will constantly complain that the court won't allow Tiller's opponents to look at any medical record that they want, but I haven't hear a single one of them advocating tightening up the notoriously lax Kansas laws to prevent the kind of procedures Tiller performs. Wouldn't that be the easiest and most effective way to put Tiller out of business? And isn't that the goal?

8 posted on 04/08/2008 5:35:56 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

....but I haven’t hear a single one of them advocating tightening up the notoriously lax Kansas laws to prevent the kind of procedures Tiller performs. Wouldn’t that be the easiest and most effective way to put Tiller out of business? And isn’t that the goal?
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The law requires a second opinion from a doctor who is not financially involved or connected to the practice seeking the consultation that the womans health or life is in peril... this IF FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER is good insurance against the wanton murder spree that is Tillers practice (and yes I mean murder not simply homicide as these abortions are outside the law) ,, THAT IS WHAT THIS LEGAL PURSUIT IS ABOUT ,, Tiller has been bypassing legal restrictions FOR DECADES by paying off the Rats in power.. You want additional laws passed? Why? If it won’t be followed or enforced...


9 posted on 04/08/2008 5:48:21 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer
The law requires a second opinion from a doctor who is not financially involved or connected to the practice seeking the consultation that the womans health or life is in peril... this IF FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER is good insurance against the wanton murder spree that is Tillers practice (and yes I mean murder not simply homicide as these abortions are outside the law) ,, THAT IS WHAT THIS LEGAL PURSUIT IS ABOUT ,, Tiller has been bypassing legal restrictions FOR DECADES by paying off the Rats in power.. You want additional laws passed? Why? If it won’t be followed or enforced...

Then they're a little late. About a year ago the then-Attorney General Paul Morrison filed 19 charges against Tiller alledging these very violations on the part of Tiller and another doctor. Those charges haven't been dropped or thrown out of court, and are working their way towards trial. Last I heard the currenc AG, Stephen Six, didn't need Operation Rescue's help in prosecuting the charges.

10 posted on 04/08/2008 5:54:41 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

The “funny” thing about abortions is that the stupid liberals who insist abortion is a legal “right” are killing the future workers who WOULD HAVE paid for their social security AND many future like-thinking liberals.


11 posted on 04/08/2008 5:59:45 PM PDT by SootyFoot2
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To: Non-Sequitur

The subpreme court aided and abetted this evil with the Stenberg v Carhardt decision. The Lawrence v Texas decision proved secular humanism is the religion reigning over the U.S. and the subpreme court, so Tiller the serial murderer has an ally in the highest court system as now presented. Such putrifaction cannot sustain a Republic for long.


12 posted on 04/08/2008 6:50:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: XR7
George Tiller is as bad as it gets. There are cases where it would have been kinder to simply shoot the baby in the head than do what he did.

The politicians he bought aren't any better.

13 posted on 04/08/2008 6:55:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SootyFoot2
Why do you think immigrants are pouring in to replace the dying breed that has aborted over 35 million of it's own people?

“The dying breed” is a euphemism used by some La Raza types to describe current Anglos.

14 posted on 04/08/2008 6:58:45 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Tiller is a provider of ‘fetal tissues’ ... his methodology offers the most ‘pristine tissues’ for sale to research groups, even in Kansas.


15 posted on 04/08/2008 7:20:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
"..... his methodology offers the most ‘pristine tissues’ for sale to research groups..."

Sheesh!

16 posted on 04/08/2008 7:29:30 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: bill1952

Actually, it’s closer to 50 million. Sickening.


17 posted on 04/09/2008 3:34:51 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: xuberalles

AMEN!!!!!!


18 posted on 04/09/2008 4:46:11 AM PDT by celticfreedom (Lord, keep Your arm around my shoulder and Your hand over my mouth)
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To: XR7
There is no morality of 'terminating' early pregnancies.

What you don't understand is if you allow early pregnancy termination, it is followed by the slippery slope of 9 month termination, which is where we are now.

Full term baby killing didn't happen overnight....

..it was always on the drawing board, but Planned Parenthood/NARAL understood they could only incrementally achieve this hideous goal.

And now they have.....and Tiller has been plying his trade for years and years.

19 posted on 04/09/2008 5:05:44 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: bill1952
Sounds Biblical doesn't it.

We allow 50 million of our potential citizens to be murdered in the womb....

..and 35 years after it began, we are this close to our nation overthrown by millions of illegals ....and sanctioned by our President.

I believe judgment is here, and we won't escape it.

May God have mercy on us.

20 posted on 04/09/2008 5:13:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: MountainFlower

PING!!! Hey, MountainFlower looks like this might be a good topic for prayer in your pro-life prayer thread...praying for those trying to hold Tiller accountable (Operation Rescue), for the process and those who will judge on this issue to have God’s wisdom. (That by this case much progress would be made to help save future babies!)


21 posted on 04/09/2008 9:39:31 AM PDT by eaglesnest1 (there has always been a price for freedom and we are GRATEFUL to those who sacrifice so much for us)
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To: MHGinTN
Stenberg will not last long. After the most recent PBA decision, states will be free to pass laws similar to the federal PBA ban. With Alito in place of SDO I am confident that we will win when a case like this goes to the high court. Kennedy voted to uphold the Nebraska law back in 2000, and I have no reason to think he would change his mind.
22 posted on 04/09/2008 10:37:24 AM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: XR7

Why isn’t he currently in jail for contempt?


23 posted on 04/09/2008 11:12:14 AM PDT by agrace
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To: shekkian

“Wichita Stands with Dr. George Tiller. 35 Years of Saving Women’s Lives,”
Make that 35 years and untold thousands of murdered unborn children.
How about the number of female children he aborted? What about their Rights?


24 posted on 04/09/2008 7:28:59 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Clump

Read Kennedy’s ruling. He left the door wide open for any other method of killing late term babies!!


25 posted on 04/09/2008 7:30:38 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: MHGinTN

“A nation that kills its children is a nation without hope.” Pope John Paul II


26 posted on 04/09/2008 7:31:36 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: bill1952

Closer to 50,000,000 million children have been surgically aborted since Roe v Wade. Repeat rates are astronomical.


27 posted on 04/09/2008 7:33:59 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: eaglesnest1
You are right! Do you have a moment to add it? I won't have time until Saturday, and then it will be history probably..... already 2 am, and a full day through 9pm tomorrow with work.

Prayers up!

28 posted on 04/10/2008 12:03:34 AM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: victim soul

Ah yes, Wichita, location of one of the most horrible perverted mass murders in history, with the Dec 2000 case. Yet Gov Sebelius and plenty of other Kansans apparently oppose the death penalty for those savage rapist/killers, but have no problem with Tiller and his methods. How vile.


29 posted on 04/10/2008 6:23:16 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Non-Sequitur
You're quite incorrect. Operation Rescue was involved with multiple bills to strengthen laws regulating the abortion business, all of which were vetoed by Governor Sebelius.
30 posted on 04/10/2008 10:04:58 AM PDT by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: Clump

“Stenberg will not last long.”

I hope you are right. However I find it odd that this pro-abortion decision has taken on the name of the anti-abortion side of the issue. Carhardt was the abortionist.


31 posted on 04/13/2008 4:01:19 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Western Phil
I couldn't say that Carhart won't last long because of Gonzalez v. Carhart which went the pro life direction. Stenberg assures that we know which case I am referring to.
32 posted on 04/15/2008 3:05:41 PM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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