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Talking Cure - Obama’s flawed thinking
NRO ^ | April 10, 2008, | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 04/10/2008 4:07:16 PM PDT by nuconvert

Talking Cure

Obama’s flawed thinking.

By Michael Ledeen

April 10, 2008,

Senator Barack Obama wants to talk to our Middle Eastern enemies, notably Iran. He can’t imagine a happy resolution of the war without such talks. And he seems to think this desire is something new, maybe even revolutionary.

He apparently does not know that it is not at all new, and certainly not revolutionary. It is instead the fully tested “policy” of the United States for the past thirty years, ever since the seizure of power by the mullahs in 1979. We have had high-level and low-level talks, public and private talks, talks conducted by diplomats, by spooks, and by a colorful array of intermediaries ranging from former Spanish President Felipe Gonzales to nephews of Rafsanjani, Iranian-American businessmen, former NSC and CIA members, and others with more dubious qualifications.

All failed. As Ken Pollack recounts in his book, The Persian Puzzle, every carrot was offered and every stick was brandished. We tried everything. The Iranians were not interested. It reminds me of that great scene from Goldfinger, with James Bond spread-eagled on a sheet of gold, and a laser beam slicing through it, headed for his private parts.

“Do you expect me talk, Goldfinger?” he asks.

“No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.”

That’s Iran. The mullahs want us to die.

These talks were approved by every president from Jimmy Carter to George W. Bush, Democrats and Republicans, lefties and righties, in varying circumstances. Why would Senator Obama, or any of the other advocates of talking to the mullahs, think that they could get a different result? Some smart person defined a madman as someone who keeps doing the same thing, hoping that the next time he’ll get a different result.

Slowly but surely, even those who desperately want to avoid the knotty problem of Iran (nobody asked General Petraeus or Ambassador Crocker what they thought we should do about it) are coming to see that the issue is inescapable. That is because the mullahs declared war on us in 1979 and have been killing us ever since, as they are now in Iraq and Afghanistan. When Congressman Wexler asked General Petraeus to explain what we’re fighting for in Iraq, the General made three points:

It has to do with the possible spread of sectarian conflict in Iraq, a conflict that had engulfed that country and had it on the brink of civil war.

It has to do with regional stability of a region that is of critical importance to the global economy.

And it has to do with certainly the influence of Iran, another obviously very important element in that region.

Talking has failed for 30 years, but the hubris of leaders overwhelms common sense. Every president from Carter to W. has come to believe that a grand bargain is in the offing, if only we tried hard enough. Thus, the humiliating apologies from Clinton and Albright; thus, the dogged participation in negotiations by W. alongside our feckless European allies; thus, the call for talks from former officials like Henry Kissinger, Jim Baker, Madeleine Albright and Brent Scowcroft, and now from Senator Obama.

In just one way, Senator Obama’s proposal is indeed revolutionary. Previous presidents took a while before they embraced the talking cure. Obama would be the first one to call for it even before he’s taken office


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blueturban; iran; ledeen; michaelledeen; obama

1 posted on 04/10/2008 4:07:17 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Why would Senator Obama, or any of the other advocates of talking to the mullahs, think that they could get a different result?

Because Obama is smarter than all the guys who came before him. And charismatic, too! Just wait till the mullahs get a whiff of that charisma.

2 posted on 04/10/2008 4:10:48 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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To: nuconvert

He won’t even be interviewed by Chris Wallace on Fox News.


3 posted on 04/10/2008 4:11:19 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama: baby is punishment; tax increase is bundle of joy)
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To: nuconvert

These guys always assume that because years of diplomacy have failed, that it hasn’t been tried yet. Or at least, it hasn’t been tried by someone as well-meaning and pure of heart as themselves. Or it hasn’t been tried by someone willing to “make the hard choices” of selling out yet another US interest or ally.

So they get into office and eventually discover that, no, it isn’t working, but about the time they figure that out, there’s another bright and rising start coming up the boardwalk convinced that he, or she, will succeed where everyone else has failed.

Then there are guys like W, who notify Saddam that he’s got a week to go into exile before we come in and hang him. And a week later, he pulls the trigger.

Now, thats diplomacy.


4 posted on 04/10/2008 4:16:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: nuconvert
Obama would talk with all of the world's terrorist leaders, yet he wants Pres Bush to boycott the opening ceremonies of the China Olympic games. How can this be????
5 posted on 04/10/2008 5:46:55 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: nuconvert

I’m sure he could make some great deals with the mullah’s seeing how he’s secretly a muslim. After all their “holy book” says it’s ok to lie to non-muslims.


6 posted on 04/10/2008 6:18:08 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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7 posted on 04/10/2008 7:23:15 PM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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8 posted on 04/10/2008 7:31:04 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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9 posted on 04/10/2008 7:33:12 PM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
Just wait till the mullahs get a whiff of that charisma.

Yes, the mullahs love nothing better than the smell of a roasting apostate.

10 posted on 04/11/2008 7:55:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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