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Rates Picture Has Makings For New Bubble (Says Alan Greenspan)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 11 April 2008 | MARK GONGLOFF

Posted on 04/10/2008 6:44:06 PM PDT by shrinkermd

Alan Greenspan may be correct that a glut of global saving pumped up the housing bubble by keeping long-term interest rates low.

If so, then watch out, because the situation has gotten worse: Foreign stockpiles of U.S. dollars are fatter and interest rates lower than at housing's zenith in 2005.

Global central-bank reserves surged to a record $6.4 trillion in the fourth quarter of 2007, according to the International Monetary Fund, up from about $4 trillion in 2005. Those reserves are pouring into U.S. Treasury bonds for safekeeping. Foreigners held $2.32 trillion in Treasurys in the fourth quarter, compared with $1.98 trillion in 2005, according to Federal Reserve data. Bond yields move in the opposite direction of prices, so that demand has helped keep yields low.

Now there's even more demand for safe Treasurys because investors are running for cover from the credit crunch. The 10-year Treasury note now yields 3.5%. In the summer of 2005 it yielded more than 4%.

Super-low rates helped inflate housing, but aren't likely to pump that bouncy castle back up again, because investors' cockeyed optimism about housing is severely shaken.

Thirty-year, fixed mortgage rates today average about 6%, according to HSH Associates. That's still low, but not as low as 10-year yields suggest they could be. Gun-shy lenders are mindful of credit risk again.

But with so much cash on hand and low rates again providing an incentive to make it magically multiply, investors could find other bubbles to inflate. That might explain crude oil rising to $110 a barrel, even as the U.S. seems to be falling into recession.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: bubbles; credit; economy; fed; financial; greenspan; housingbubble; mortgage

1 posted on 04/10/2008 6:44:07 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

1,999,848th post on FR


2 posted on 04/10/2008 6:48:32 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: shrinkermd

so what will the next big thing be?


3 posted on 04/10/2008 6:49:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (can u feel the unity?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
So what will the next big thing be?

The stock market. The Dow will easily drop 3,000 more. Guaranteed.

4 posted on 04/10/2008 6:56:01 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: ExtremeUnction
The stock market. The Dow will easily drop 3,000 more. Guaranteed.

I meant the next bubble.

5 posted on 04/10/2008 6:59:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (can u feel the unity?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I meant the next bubble.

Obama's bubble?
6 posted on 04/10/2008 7:13:04 PM PDT by adorno
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To: shrinkermd

Greenspan is the most overrated economist to ever live. He had a reputation as a good Fed chairman because he’s so great at BS.


7 posted on 04/10/2008 7:17:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: don-o
1,999,848th post on FR

FR post bubble about to burst? Should I buy or sell or post a duplicate thread!?

8 posted on 04/10/2008 7:18:19 PM PDT by OCC
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To: shrinkermd

Pimco is betting heavily that rates will move up sharply (biggest bet by them in that direction ever).


9 posted on 04/10/2008 7:21:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86

Speaking of treasury rates there.


10 posted on 04/10/2008 7:22:56 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You’re experiencing it right now. Commodities. Just about all of them. Metals, ag, certainly energy.


11 posted on 04/10/2008 7:25:19 PM PDT by G.Love ( Romney '12)
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To: the invisib1e hand; Toddsterpatriot
so what will the next big thing be?

Maybe when all the gold bugs lose all their money?

12 posted on 04/10/2008 7:29:40 PM PDT by groanup (Politics, dog ticks, wood ticks and bed ticks. They're all parasites.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
The Dow will easily drop 3,000 more. Guaranteed.

Guaranteed? LOL.

13 posted on 04/10/2008 7:31:04 PM PDT by groanup (Politics, dog ticks, wood ticks and bed ticks. They're all parasites.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
The stock market. The Dow will easily drop 3,000 more. Guaranteed.

I would bet $10K that we see 15K DOW before we see 9K DOW.

14 posted on 04/10/2008 7:32:19 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: groanup
so what will the next big thing be?

Maybe when all the gold bugs lose all their money?

But gold is the only real money......

15 posted on 04/10/2008 7:46:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: shrinkermd

does andrea feed him this crap or does he come up with it on his own?


16 posted on 04/10/2008 8:06:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: shrinkermd

Greenspan’s newfound ability to recognize “bubble” conditions is impressive. Too bad he didn’t have such an ability prior to retirement.


17 posted on 04/10/2008 8:07:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

No kidding. Greenspan should just shut up. He reminds me of Clinton in the way he trys to stay in the spotlight to comment on the messes he created as if he had nothing to do with them.

John


18 posted on 04/10/2008 9:06:00 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: the invisib1e hand
so what will the next big thing be?

TULIPS?

19 posted on 04/10/2008 9:44:22 PM PDT by Hildy (Obama: "Yes, I sat in his church, but I didn't inhale.")
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To: shrinkermd

I don’t know if Mr. Greenpants about his “bubbles” but I agree that we should RAISE INTEREST RATES. Dump the stupid free-loading, broke a$$ homebuyers and raise the rates.


20 posted on 04/11/2008 12:02:35 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: don-o
I just wish Greenspan would shut up and go away.

He retired; why can'y he spend his time bone jumping on his commie newscaster wife?

21 posted on 04/11/2008 4:00:26 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Hildy
Tulips.

I daresay there are a handful on this very thread that would trade their life savings if they thought it might be true, and then lay the blame at your feet if things didn't go as wished for.

22 posted on 04/11/2008 4:15:53 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (can u feel the unity?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I was a my financial advisor's this week and asked him about the economy. He explained how "irrational exhuberance" has been around forever and started to tell me the story about the tulips in the 1600's. There was a part of me that that didn't believe him...so I looked it up.

I guess human nature is human nature...always has and always will be.

23 posted on 04/11/2008 6:59:01 AM PDT by Hildy (Obama: "Yes, I sat in his church, but I didn't inhale.")
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Obviously he has shorted some area of the market or is on retainer with someone who has.


24 posted on 04/11/2008 8:21:54 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: Hildy
I guess human nature is human nature...always has and always will be.

In the days before the machines took over, when a high-school education was quite enough of a credential, that was Trading 101.

Now we have all these computers...

25 posted on 04/11/2008 2:54:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (can u feel the unity?)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

I won’t say no to that.


26 posted on 04/12/2008 3:42:51 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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