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BREAKING US to admit officially that Saddam WMDs were moved to Syria in a report to come !!!!!
Jerusalem Post ^ | 04 11 2008 | drzz

Posted on 04/11/2008 8:33:43 AM PDT by drzz

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To: Jim Noble

Sigh. Can’t you old hippies find another website?


101 posted on 04/11/2008 9:29:05 AM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: mnehrling
Not thinking the 'worst' of them,

You are way too kind, LOL!

102 posted on 04/11/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Miss Didi

Who was the author who wrote the book about the WMD’s that were found in Iraq?
I forgot the author & I forgot the name of the book.
But if I heard them, I would recognize them.


103 posted on 04/11/2008 9:31:09 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Strategerist

Based on what??? Your bunions?


104 posted on 04/11/2008 9:32:43 AM PDT by seanrobins (Hillary research at: www.hillaryfactfile.com)
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To: TheThinker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852873/posts

105 posted on 04/11/2008 9:33:11 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Braak
“Bush Lied about WMD”.....

Has become a "FACT" by constant use and unchallenged reference just like the "Clinton lied about sex" Impeachment reference.

The power of the MSM have made both statements a "fait accompli".

106 posted on 04/11/2008 9:33:15 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: LS
Gust Avrakodos, Wilson's partner-in-crime, thought that he as a spy was at his best when he accomplished his mission and the press was convinced he had failed. Therefore, "bad press" for CIA operations was often an indicator that, in fact, they had achieved all their goals.

Effective in the short term but disasterous politically in the long term because the public loses trust in the administration trying to protect them.

107 posted on 04/11/2008 9:33:54 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: All

Saddam’s WMD Moved to Syria, An Israeli Says


By IRA STOLL
Staff Reporter of the Sun
December 15, 2005

Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says.

The assertion comes as President Bush said yesterday that much of the intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction was incorrect.

The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. “He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria,” General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. “No one went to Syria to find it.”

From July 2002 to June 2005, when he retired, General Yaalon was chief of staff of the Israel Defense Force, the top job in the Israeli military, analogous to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the American military. He is now a military fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. He made similar, but more speculative, remarks in April 2004 that attracted little notice in America; at that time he was quoted as saying of the Iraqi weapons, “Perhaps they transferred them to another country, such as Syria.”

The Israeli general’s remarks came on the eve of Mr. Bush’s speech to the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, in which the president addressed the issue of intelligence and defended the decision to go to war. “When we made the decision to go into Iraq, many intelligence agencies around the world judged that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction. This judgment was shared by the intelligence agencies of governments who did not support my decision to remove Saddam. And it is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong,” Mr. Bush said in remarks that were one of a series of speeches he has given recently on the war.


108 posted on 04/11/2008 9:35:05 AM PDT by drzz
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To: JennysCool
. Can't you old hippies find another website?

Let the old hippies opine for the days of competent leadership in wartime, like LBJ.. //sarc..

109 posted on 04/11/2008 9:36:18 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: TheThinker

I would love to believe this report, but this news story has now been out since April 7th, and nothing else has been reported on it. All we have is small blurb from the Jerusalem Post. Until we something more definitive, can’t view this information as credible.


110 posted on 04/11/2008 9:36:36 AM PDT by LexHoskin
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To: LexHoskin
I would love to believe this report, but this news story has now been out since April 7th, and nothing else has been reported on it. All we have is small blurb from the Jerusalem Post. Until we something more definitive, can't view this information as credible.

Don't judge the accuracy of a report by the willingness of the press to cover it. As we've seen, normally there is a inverse correlation between facts and reporting.

111 posted on 04/11/2008 9:38:51 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: cgk
Even on this thread, there are people still insistent there were NO WMD!!!

Of course there are. Ron Paul, the DNC and ABC News told them so.

At this point, who cares what they think. They're married to the lie, they're not going to budge. Screw 'em.

112 posted on 04/11/2008 9:40:11 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: drzz
Saddam + transferred
113 posted on 04/11/2008 9:40:55 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: silverleaf
maybe a sop to Israel validating its attack on Syria, in exchange for Israel making nice and giving the terrorists the Temple Mount and half of Jerusalem

Ugh, you're probably right. There was an article out yesterday about relinquishing the Temple Mt.

114 posted on 04/11/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by agrace
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To: holden

The most promising, without being very promising, scenario

I’d surely like to see that happen. But, with the MSM being complete leftist tools and the left itself being complete squirrels, it’s hard to imagine. The left have become more than insane if that is at all possible. Jessie Ventura claiming 9/11 was the government at work - spouting the same insanity as Rosie O and Moveon.org. They all would be laughable if they weren’t so annoying.


115 posted on 04/11/2008 9:42:35 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: mnehrling

I’m not viewing the unwillingness of the press to not cover it as my reason for skepticism. The report from US-Israel on the Sept 4th attack hasn’t even come out yet. Why would the press print a story about a rumor that was released on the JP? Rumors are all over the Internet, no matter which story it is. All I’m saying is until an actual report comes out from the US-Israel that’s says exactly what this so called rumor is saying...I will be very skeptical.


116 posted on 04/11/2008 9:43:22 AM PDT by LexHoskin
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To: drzz

‘Report on Sept. 6 strike to show Saddam transferred WMDs to Syria’ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998093/posts

CIA can’t rule out WMD move to Syria - (Charles Duelfer ISG; latest report)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1391840/posts

King Abdullah: Al Qaeda WMDs Came From Syria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119631/posts

In an interview that appeared in Thursday’s New York Sun, Gen. Sada confirmed that Saddam had spirited his weapons of mass destruction out of the country before the U.S. invaded in March 2003.

“Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” he told the Sun. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565996/posts

LARRY ELDER SHOW: Guest John Lofton says chemical weapons sent from Iraq to Syria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1126256/posts

Saddam’s WMD’s: The Syrian Connection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1583921/posts

Jordan recently seized 20 tons of chemicals trucked in by confessed al Qaeda members who brought it in from Syria. The chemicals included VX, Sarin and 70 others. But the media seem curiously incurious whether one could reasonably trace this stuff back to Iraq.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1132288/posts


117 posted on 04/11/2008 9:44:08 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: pgkdan
It almost makes me happy to be in such poor health.

I know exactly what you're saying.

118 posted on 04/11/2008 9:44:13 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: kellynla
Is this who you are thinking of?

"The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed."(snip)

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
119 posted on 04/11/2008 9:44:26 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: TheThinker
The response to that one is that Iraq manufactured these weapons and were only transported to Syria after the U.S. invasion.

That still wouldn't faze a dimwit with the BDS.

They would insists to the fact that at the time of invasion, Iraq didn't have WMDs. The technically wouldn't trump their desire to demonize Bush.
120 posted on 04/11/2008 9:45:10 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Jim Noble
That's because other wartime administrations were competent.

Despite the labels and the rhetoric, this entire WOT and incursion into Iraq has been nothing more than a police action.

And until you cut off the source of the problem, this 'war' will NEVER end.

As Golda Meir once said, "Until they love their children more than they hate us, there will never be peace".

Outlaw violent teachings...outlaw tribal law....and peace can be achieved. Absent that, nothing but a horrific nuclear event will stop this crap.

121 posted on 04/11/2008 9:50:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: drzz; Jim Robinson; Lead Moderator

Apparently, this Breaking News Story isn’t nearly as important, as the Capture of the Murdering Fugitive Marine, which deserves a spot in Breaking News.

That is great news. This is important news.

Important news with worldwide repercussions a long time coming.

Who decides what goes and stays from Breaking?


122 posted on 04/11/2008 9:51:08 AM PDT by cgk (Checkers Speech 08: Nixon didn't give the dog back, why should Obama give up his preacher? - Lowry)
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To: drzz

Taken out of Breaking, out of the sidebar and buried.

We really are our own worst enemies. Unbelievable.


123 posted on 04/11/2008 9:51:09 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cgk

Wow was he captured? I gotta go....


124 posted on 04/11/2008 9:53:15 AM PDT by woofie (expert)
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To: cgk

The greatest lie used to undermine the war effort and turn the American public against the fight... finally we get something official to refute the lie, and one sidebar moderator kills it in a matter of minutes.

I’d really like to know what’s going on here, too. If this isn’t Breaking News, nothing is.


125 posted on 04/11/2008 9:54:21 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Taken out of Breaking, out of the sidebar and buried.
We really are our own worst enemies. Unbelievable.”

Why is this unbelievable? Again, no report has come out. This little blurb has been on the JP since April 7th. Nothing new here....hence...not breaking news.


126 posted on 04/11/2008 9:56:39 AM PDT by LexHoskin
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To: drzz
Most of us have known this for ....about five years.

One thing's certain -- Saddam had plenty of time to get his arsenal out of there while we were messing around trying to get UN backing.

127 posted on 04/11/2008 9:56:57 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

This is the 3rd or 4th time this article has broken on FR.


128 posted on 04/11/2008 9:57:32 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: drzz

The administration missed it being shipped to Syria so it doesn’t count. /s


129 posted on 04/11/2008 9:58:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: LexHoskin; txflake; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

From the backlash I am seeing on the thread, it seems this article has been posted at least three times since April 7. This is the first time I saw it posted, but for those who have seen it over and over (not necessarily those pinged here), I offer no apologies for not understanding why this story, or its source, doesn’t seem to be taken seriously.


130 posted on 04/11/2008 10:06:49 AM PDT by cgk (Checkers Speech 08: Nixon didn't give the dog back, why should Obama give up his preacher? - Lowry)
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To: LexHoskin

It’s unbelievable because it never appeared in Breaking. Then, it finally does and starts generating some interest and discussion, and it’s killed in minutes.

I don’t care if it’s three days old. It was never in Breaking News here, which is where the vast majority of traffic goes. If it was a blurb about a joint US/Israeli report saying Saddam had no WMD, you’d better believe ABDCBCNBCCNNMSNBC and the NYT would be leading with it using selective leaked talking points every day until the report came out.

If we were smart, we’d keep the story in the forefront until the report came out and this thread would have a couple thousand posts by then. We would be generating the interest in the report. We would be making sure it isn’t DOA when it comes out. Our entire problem is we don’t confront the left’s lies, because we don’t know how.


131 posted on 04/11/2008 10:08:43 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: cgk

Oh, I take it seriously, I’m just guessing why it got moved.


132 posted on 04/11/2008 10:09:16 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

No clue.

I guess JPost became the new Pravda (?) or Newsmax or World Net Daily.


133 posted on 04/11/2008 10:09:20 AM PDT by cgk (Checkers Speech 08: Nixon didn't give the dog back, why should Obama give up his preacher? - Lowry)
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To: cgk

I didn’t know either that this story had been posted before.

I still don’t understand why it wasn’t really advertised. This is BIG.

If FR want to make pressure on the media to cover the story, it has to be posted OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Or the Pentagon will classify the report and soldiers in Iraq will fight against muslims in front and Democrats in the back.


134 posted on 04/11/2008 10:10:06 AM PDT by drzz
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To: txflake

It was never in Breaking. The Breaking News sidebar is FR’s version of Page 1.

This is Page 1 news. We should be fighting like hell to keep it there. The truth is that important.


135 posted on 04/11/2008 10:11:27 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: txflake

Understand... and thank you. I was trying to speak in general about the tone of the thread/discussion in some of the posts I had skimmed trying to follow it all. Sorry if I implied otherwise.


136 posted on 04/11/2008 10:11:40 AM PDT by cgk (Checkers Speech 08: Nixon didn't give the dog back, why should Obama give up his preacher? - Lowry)
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To: Miss Didi

No, that’s not him.
This was an American conservative author...
He wrote a book and in that book he itemized the different WMD’s that were found in Iraq...


137 posted on 04/11/2008 10:11:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: cgk

I asked the moderator to put the thread on Breaking line again. Hope he will agrees.


138 posted on 04/11/2008 10:14:45 AM PDT by drzz
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To: cgk

My son’s squad found sarin gas IED’s in ‘03-’04. Also new weapons with French markings.


139 posted on 04/11/2008 10:17:29 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

It’s in page 2 of BN.

I haven’t even heard FNC mention it.


140 posted on 04/11/2008 10:18:01 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: kellynla
Are you thinking of John Loftus (he's not conservative, though)...I'll keep thinking.
141 posted on 04/11/2008 10:19:35 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Lead Moderator; All

I warned the Little Green Football crowd and they were smarter to put that on Frontpage :

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=29584_JPost-_US-Israeli_Report_Shows_Saddam_Transferred_WMDs_to_Syria&only


142 posted on 04/11/2008 10:20:30 AM PDT by drzz
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To: silverleaf
Saddam moved those WMD’s- With the support of Russia. Which is probably why we didnt say anything before this- to avoid confronting or embarrassing (if that is possible) Pootie Poot.

Exactly, in the naive hope that Russia would agree to sanctions on Iran's Atomic Ayatollahs.

143 posted on 04/11/2008 11:53:50 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: jveritas; All

A friend just sent me this:

If anyone wants feel free to post it

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By George Friedman

The Arab-Israeli region of the Middle East is filled with rumors of war. That is about as unusual as the rising of the sun, so normally it would not be worth mentioning. But like the proverbial broken clock that is right twice a day, such rumors occasionally will be true. In this case, we don’t know that they are true, and certainly it’s not the rumors that are driving us. But other things — minor and readily explicable individually — have drawn our attention to the possibility that something is happening.

The first thing that drew our attention was a minor, routine matter. Back in February, the United States started purchasing oil for its Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). The SPR is a reserve of crude oil stored in underground salt domes. Back in February, it stood at 96.2 percent of capacity, which is pretty full as far as we are concerned. But the U.S. Department of Energy decided to increase its capacity. This move came in spite of record-high oil prices and the fact that the purchase would not help matters. It also came despite potential political fallout, since during times like these there is generally pressure to release reserves. Part of the step could have been the bureaucracy cranking away, and part of it could have been the feeling that the step didn’t make much difference. But part of it could have been based on real fears of a disruption in oil supplies. By itself, the move meant nothing. But it did cause us to become thoughtful.

Also in February, someone assassinated Imad Mughniyah, a leader of Hezbollah, in a car bomb explosion in Syria. It was assumed the Israelis had killed him, although there were some suspicions the Syrians might have had him killed for their own arcane reasons. In any case, Hezbollah publicly claimed the Israelis killed Mughniyah, and therefore it was expected the militant Shiite group would take revenge. In the past, Hezbollah responded not by attacking Israel but by attacking Jewish targets elsewhere, as in the Buenos Aires attacks of 1992 and 1994.

In March, the United States decided to dispatch the USS Cole, then under Sixth Fleet command, to Lebanese coastal waters. Washington later replaced it with two escorts from the Nassau (LHA-4) Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG), reportedly maintaining a minor naval presence in the area. (Most of the ESG, on a regularly scheduled deployment, is no more than a few days sail from the coast, as it remains in the Mediterranean Sea.) The reason given for the American naval presence was to serve as a warning to the Syrians not to involve themselves in Lebanese affairs. The exact mission of the naval presence off the Levantine coast — and the exact deterrent function it served — was not clear, but there they were. The Sixth Fleet has gone out of its way to park and maintain U.S. warships off the Lebanese coast.

Hezbollah leaders being killed by the Israelis and the presence of American ships off the shores of Mediterranean countries are not news in and of themselves. These things happen. The killing of Mughniyah is notable only to point out that as much as Israel might have wanted him dead, the Israelis knew this fight would escalate. But anyone would have known this. So all we know is that whoever killed Mughniyah wanted to trigger a conflict. The U.S. naval presence off the Levantine coast is notable in that Washington, rather busy with matters elsewhere, found the bandwidth to get involved here as well.

With the situation becoming tense, the Israelis announced in March that they would carry out an exercise in April called Turning Point 2. Once again, an Israeli military exercise is hardly interesting news. But the Syrians apparently got quite interested. After the announcement, the Syrians deployed three divisions — two armored, one mechanized — to the Lebanese-Syrian border in the Bekaa Valley, the western part of which is Hezbollah’s stronghold. The Syrians didn’t appear to be aggressive. Rather, they deployed these forces in a defensive posture, in a way walling off their part of the valley.

The Syrians are well aware that in the event of a conventional war with Israel, they would experience a short but exciting life, as they say. They thus are hardly going to attack Israel. The deployment therefore seemed intended to keep the Israelis on the Lebanese side of the border — on the apparent assumption the Israelis were going into the Bekaa Valley. Despite Israeli and Syrian denials of the Syrian troop buildup along the border, Stratfor sources maintain that the buildup in fact happened. Normally, Israel would be jumping at the chance to trumpet Syrian aggression in response to these troop movements, but, instead, the Israelis downplayed the buildup.

When the Israelis kicked off Turning Point 2, which we regard as a pretty interesting name, it turned out to be the largest exercise in Israeli history. It involved the entire country, and was designed to test civil defenses and the ability of the national command authority to continue to function in the event of an attack with unconventional weapons — chemical and nuclear, we would assume. This was a costly exercise. It also involved calling up reserves, some of them for the exercise, and, by some reports, others for deployment to the north against Syria. Israel does not call up reserves casually. Reserve call-ups are expensive and disrupt the civilian economy. These appear small, but in the environment of Turning Point 2, it would not be difficult to mobilize larger forces without being noticed.

The Syrians already were deeply concerned by the Israeli exercise. Eventually, the Lebanese government got worried, too, and started to evacuate some civilians from the South. Hezbollah, which still hadn’t retaliated for the Mughniyah assassination, also claimed the Israelis were about to attack it, and reportedly went on alert and mobilized its forces. The Americans, who normally issue warnings and cautions to everyone, said nothing to try to calm the situation. They just sat offshore on their ships.

It is noteworthy that Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak canceled a scheduled visit to Germany this week. The cancellation came immediately after the reports of the Syrian military redeployment were released. Obviously, Barak needed to be in Israel for Turning Point 2, but then he had known about the exercise for at least a month. Why cancel at the last minute? While we are discussing diplomacy, we note that U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney visited Oman — a country with close relations with Iran — and then was followed by U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. By itself not interesting, but why the high-level interest in Oman at this point?

Now let’s swing back to September 2007, when the Israelis bombed something in Syria near the Turkish border. As we discussed at the time, for some reason the Israelis refused to say what they had attacked. It made no sense for them not to trumpet what they carefully leaked — namely, that they had attacked a nuclear facility. Proving that Syria had a secret nuclear program would have been a public relations coup for Israel. Nevertheless, no public charges were leveled. And the Syrians remained awfully calm about the bombing.

Rumors now are swirling that the Israelis are about to reveal publicly that they in fact bombed a nuclear reactor provided to Syria by North Korea. But this news isn’t all that big. Also rumored is that the Israelis will claim Iranian complicity in building the reactor. And one Israeli TV station reported April 8 that Israel really had discovered Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, which it said had been smuggled to Syria.

Now why the Bush administration wouldn’t have trumpeted news of the Syrian reactor worldwide in September 2007 is beyond us, but there obviously were some reasons — assuming the TV report is true, which we have no way of establishing. In fact, we have no idea why the Israelis are choosing this moment to rehash the bombing of this site. But whatever their reason, it certainly raises a critical question. If the Syrians are developing a nuclear capability, what are the Israelis planning to do about it?

No one of these things, by itself, is of very great interest. And taken together they do not provide the means for a clear forecast. Nevertheless, a series of rather ordinary events, taken together, can constitute something significant. Tensions in the Middle East are moving well beyond the normal point, and given everything that is happening, events are moving to a point where someone is likely to take military action. Whether Hezbollah will carry out a retaliatory strike or Israel a pre-emptive strike in Lebanon, or whether the Israelis’ real target is Iran, tensions systematically have been ratcheted up to the point where we, in our simple way, are beginning to wonder whether something has to give.

All together, these events are fairly extraordinary. Ignoring all rhetoric — and the Israelis have gone out of their way to say that they are not looking for a fight — it would seem that each side, but particularly the Americans and Israelis, have gone out of their way to signal that they are expecting conflict. The Syrians have also signaled that they expect conflict, and Hezbollah always claims there is about to be conflict.

What is missing is this: who will fight whom, and why, and why now. The simple explanation is that Israel wants a second round with Hezbollah. But while that might be true, it doesn’t explain everything else that has happened. Most important, it doesn’t explain the simultaneous revelations about the bombing of Syria. It also doesn’t explain the U.S. naval deployment. Is the United States about to get involved in a war with Hezbollah, a war that the Israelis should handle themselves? Are the Israelis going to topple Syrian President Bashar al Assad — and then wind up with a Sunni government, or worse, an Israeli occupation of Syria? None of that makes a lot of sense.

In truth, all of this may dissolve into nothing much. In intelligence analysis, however, sometimes a set of not-fully-coherent facts must be reported, and that is what we are doing now. There is no clear pattern; there is no obvious direction this is taking. Nevertheless, when we string together events from February until now, we see a persistently escalating pattern of behavior. In fact, what we can say most clearly is that there is escalation, without being able to say what is the clear direction of the escalation or the purpose.

We would like to wrap this up with a crystal clear explanation and forecast. But we can’t. The motives of the various actors are opaque; and taken separately, the individual events all have quite innocent explanations. We are not prepared to say war is imminent, nor even what sort of war there would be. We are simply prepared to say that the course of events since February — and really since the September 2007 attack on Syria — have been startling, and they appear to be reaching some sort of hard-to-understand crescendo.

The bombing of Syria symbolizes our confusion. Why would Syria want a nuclear reactor and why put it on the border of Turkey, a country the Syrians aren’t particularly friendly with? If the Syrians had a nuclear reactor, why would the Israelis be coy about it? Why would the Americans? Having said nothing for months apart from careful leaks, why are the Israelis going to speak publicly now? And if what they are going to say is simply that the North Koreans provided the equipment, what’s the big deal? That was leaked months ago.

The events of September 2007 make no sense and have never made any sense. The events we have seen since February make no sense either. That is noteworthy, and we bring it to your attention. We are not saying that the events are meaningless. We are saying that we do not know their meaning. But we can’t help but regard them as ominous.


I trust you found that as worthy of your time as I did.

Your hoping there will not be a war analyst,

John Mauldin
johnmauldin@investorsinsight.com


144 posted on 04/11/2008 11:58:04 AM PDT by woofie (expert)
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To: drzz
A BIG story missed by the media:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=1766CA37-A002-47DD-9FAF-0B8DF5B3851E

Iraqi WMDs, Now in Syria

 
By Larry Elder
Townhall.com | Thursday, May 06, 2004

"Week after week after week after week," said Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., about President Bush's rationale for going to war with Iraq, "we were told lie after lie after lie after lie." Were we?

Jordan recently seized 20 tons of chemicals trucked in by confessed al-Qaeda members who brought the stuff in from Syria. The chemicals included VX, Sarin and 70 others. But the media seems curiously incurious about whether one could reasonably trace this stuff back to Iraq. Had the terrorists released a "toxic cloud," Jordanian officials say 80,000 would have died!

So, I interviewed terrorism expert John Loftus, who once held some of the highest security clearances in the world. Loftus, a former Army officer, served as a Justice Department prosecutor. He investigated CIA cases of Nazi war criminals for the U.S. attorney general. Author of several books, Loftus once received a Pulitzer Prize nomination.

John Loftus: There's a lot of reason to think (the source of the chemicals) might be Iraq. We captured Iraqi members of al-Qaeda, who've been trained in Iraq, planned for the mission in Iraq, and now they're in Jordan with nerve gas. That's not the kind of thing you buy in a grocery store. You have to have obtained it from someplace.

Larry Elder: They couldn't have obtained it from Syria?

Loftus: Syria does have the ability to produce certain kinds of nerve gasses, but in small quantities. The large stockpiles were known to be in Iraq. The best U.S. and allied intelligence say that in the 10 weeks before the Iraq war, Saddam's Russian adviser told him to get rid of all the nerve gas. It would be useless against U.S. troops; the rubber suits were immune to it. So they shipped it across the border to Syria and Lebanon and buried it. Now, in the last few weeks, there's a controversy that Syria has been trying to get rid of this stuff.

They're selling it to al-Qaeda is one supposition. We know the Sudanese government demanded that the Syrian government empty its warehouse in Khartoum where they've been hiding illegal missiles along with components of Weapons of Mass Destruction. But there's no doubt these guys confessed on Jordanian television that they received the training for this mission in Iraq. . . And from the description it appears this is the form of nerve gas known as VX. It's very rare, and very tough to manufacture . . . one of the most destructive chemical mass-production weapons that you can use. . . They wanted to build three clouds, a mile across, of toxic gas. A whole witch's brew of nasty chemicals that were going to go into this poison cloud, and this would have gone over shopping malls, hospitals . . . .

Elder: You said that the Russians told Saddam, "There is going to be an invasion. Get rid of your chemical and biological weapons."

Loftus: Sure. It would only bring the United Nations down on their heads if they were shown to really have Weapons of Mass Destruction. It's not generally known, but the CIA has found 41 different material breaches where Saddam did have a weapons of mass destruction program of various types. It was completely illegal. But no one could find the stockpiles. And the liberal press seems to be focusing on that.

Elder: It seems to me that this is a huge, huge story.

Loftus: It's embarrassing to the (press). They've staked their reputations that this stuff wasn't there. And now all of a sudden we have al Qaeda agents from Iraq showing up with Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Elder: David Kay said, in an interim report, that there was a possibility that WMD components were shipped to Syria.

Loftus: A possibility? We had a Syrian journalist who defected to Paris in January. The guy is dying of cancer, and he said, "Look, my friends in Syrian intelligence told me exactly where the stuff is buried." He named three sites in Syria, and the Israelis have confirmed the three sites. They know where the stuff is, but the problem is that the United States can't just go around invading Arab countries. . . We know from Israeli and defectors' intelligence that the son of the Syrian defense minister was paid 50 million bucks to bring the stuff across the border and bury it.

Elder: Why would al-Qaeda attack Jordan?

Loftus: Jordan is an ally of the United States. It's at peace with Israel. And Jordan has a long history of trying to prosecute terrorists. . . There are a lot of reasons. . . They want to make an example of them. They want to terrorize as many of the Arab states as possible. This is sort of a political dream for the president. The worst nightmare is al-Qaeda gets Weapons of Mass Destruction from Iraq. And it looks like it's coming true.

A Syria/Iraq/al Qaeda/WMD connection? Why, this calls for a congressional investigation.

145 posted on 04/11/2008 12:05:28 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: TheThinker

Seemed to work pretty well for Reagan.


146 posted on 04/11/2008 12:31:29 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: drzz
Clock has commenced ticking on the countdown to the fulfillment of prophesy in Isaiah 17. Ya think?
147 posted on 04/11/2008 12:40:59 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: drzz

Hey chuckles - your thread is at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000128/posts and on the breaking news sidebar. Any chance you can go there and stop trying to hijack this thread?


148 posted on 04/11/2008 12:51:59 PM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

Lol wrong URL - I mean its at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000079/posts


149 posted on 04/11/2008 12:53:36 PM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: drzz

I predict a huge Bush vindication some day, most likely many years post-office. I still respect the man & thank God for him every day.


150 posted on 04/11/2008 1:02:03 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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