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U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT ADMITS -- SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS DEVELOPING NUCLEAR BOMB
U.S. State Department DeClassified Memo ^ | April 4, 2008 | Conservative Events

Posted on 04/11/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by Moseley

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1 posted on 04/11/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley

Paging Joe Wilson.. put up or shut up buddy.


2 posted on 04/11/2008 2:49:58 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Moseley

US v. Libby, a show trial worthy of Stalin.


3 posted on 04/11/2008 2:50:27 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric political system in religious drag.)
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To: Moseley
"Wilson and Plame Exposed as Lairs"

NYT's 4 ' headline on Sundays paper

Hell will have to freeze over first

4 posted on 04/11/2008 2:51:53 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Moseley

Has Joe Wilson ever testified about any of this under oath?


5 posted on 04/11/2008 2:53:50 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Moseley

Scopes Monkey Trial, redux. Poor Scooter.


6 posted on 04/11/2008 2:55:47 PM PDT by sappy
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To: Liberty Valance
Has Joe Wilson ever testified about any of this under oath?

Oh, please tell me that that self-serving traitor has committed perjury. (And that the government is actually going to prosecute him for it.)

7 posted on 04/11/2008 2:58:01 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Moseley

“When the cease-fire agreement with the U.S.A. was violated, a state of war immediately and automatically existed between the U.S.A. and Iraq. “

Gee, I guess the MSM knew about that little item, but sure didn’t mention it.

Cherry picking of the facts, anyone?


8 posted on 04/11/2008 3:00:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Moseley; jveritas
Errrrr... read the entire article at that link. At best it merely states that some Iraqis expressed wanting to expand commercial interest with Niger. Yes, I know what that means but if that is all that it says then you cannot say proof positive Saddam was building a nuclear bomb. That's quite a stretch.

Even Joe Wilson's article states that Iraqis made contact with Niger officials. We know that already!

9 posted on 04/11/2008 3:03:44 PM PDT by avacado
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10 posted on 04/11/2008 3:05:15 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Moseley

Couple this with his german nuke techs and there ya go!


11 posted on 04/11/2008 3:06:45 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: avacado

The Prime Minister of Niger at the time reported confidentially to the US State Department that the topic of the meeting was uranium yellowcake (ore), which Iraq wanted to buy. He was in the meeting and he says it was about uranium.

Iraq already had uranium yellowcake... being watched by Inspector Clousseau of the UN. So they could not have needed uranium yellowcake for peaceful purposes.

The only reason left for Iraq wanting to buy uranium was to build a nuclear bomb.... without the UN knowing about it.


12 posted on 04/11/2008 3:09:08 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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To: avacado

The Prime Minister of Niger at the time reported confidentially to the US State Department that the topic of the meeting was uranium yellowcake (ore), which Iraq wanted to buy. He was in the meeting and he says it was about uranium.

Iraq already had uranium yellowcake... being watched by Inspector Clousseau of the UN. So they could not have needed uranium yellowcake for peaceful purposes.

The only reason left for Iraq wanting to buy uranium was to build a nuclear bomb.... without the UN knowing about it.


13 posted on 04/11/2008 3:09:39 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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bookmark


14 posted on 04/11/2008 3:11:41 PM PDT by federal
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To: ikez78

thought you might want to see this


15 posted on 04/11/2008 3:14:13 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: avacado

Agreed. But how convoluted is a prosecution where they end up convicting Scooter Libby? None of this makes any sense ... unless you’ve got enemy sympathiser moles trying to bring down the President during a time of war.


16 posted on 04/11/2008 3:16:48 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Liberty Valance

It’s crazy. Many people have said for a long time that the State Department is populated by enemies of the US (on the US payroll). Remember that this memo only came out because of Scooter Libbey’s defenes attorneys.


17 posted on 04/11/2008 3:18:57 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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To: Liberty Valance; All

Do you, or does anyone, remember the infamous Rockefeller memo?

Seems like the gameplan therein has been in effect for a long time, humming right along.

Rockefeller was, is, and always will be a traitor to the USA in my opinion.


18 posted on 04/11/2008 3:22:18 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: STARWISE

What do you suppose Joe Wilson is thinking? ;)


19 posted on 04/11/2008 3:23:55 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Judith Anne

Most recently, during the Petraeus hearings, the Rodham rodent point blank asked the General to tell her in open hearings what ‘losing would look like’ ... in effect asking him to detail for the enemy what they must accomplish to garner the democrat forced withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. Such treasonous crap goes completely unreported, even in conservative talk radio!


20 posted on 04/11/2008 3:27:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: avacado; Moseley; Fedora
Even Joe Wilson's article states that Iraqis made contact with Niger officials. We know that already!

Actually, Wilson's article doesn't mention that fact. In later articles, as information bled out that he had lied in his first article, he would add detail attempting to cover himself. It was Tenet that first revealed that Wilson told him, verbally, what he didn't mention in his op-ed.

What Wilson's article does do, however, is play a sleight of hand. He ignores the charge that Saddam tried to obtain uranium, instead attempting to prove that such a sale didn't transpire.

His proof that it didn't happen is to say that IAEA monitored uranium mining too closely for such a thing to occur. The truth was otherwise; IAEA wasn't monitoring these mines at all. The reasons were as follows: Niger hadn't yet passed laws allowing the inspectors into the country; IAEA claimed it didn't have the personnel anyway, and thirdly, that yellowcake is considered by them to be low-grade ore not worthy of monitoring directly. Yellowcake sales are supposed to be self-monitored, the countries involved are requested to notify IAEA themselves.

Apropos probably of nothing, has anyone ever bothered to ask where Libya's yellowcake came from? Since, according to Wilson, contraband of uranium is impossible, where did theirs come from?

The answer is, Niger. Half their supply was smuggled in from Niger, and then later self-reported. The other half was smuggled in from Niger and never self-reported. Perhaps "smuggle" is too strong a word, since it was probably simply purchased and delivered. But Wilson's claim that uranium sales to rogue states are impossible, is just silly on the face of it.

21 posted on 04/11/2008 3:40:19 PM PDT by marron
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To: MHGinTN

Yes, they always demand to know everything, and “the public has a right to know” seems to be their mantra.

Well, I’m one of the “public” and am therefore entitled to have a lot of questions answered, too.

Like, why wasn’t Rockefeller hauled before a court for his treason?

Sometimes, I am not very hopeful for the future...


22 posted on 04/11/2008 3:44:45 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: UCANSEE2
“When the cease-fire agreement with the U.S.A. was violated, a state of war immediately and automatically existed between the U.S.A. and Iraq. “

From a purely international law point of view, this is pretty much exactly the proper grounds for the war in Iraq. It's not actually a new war. It is a resumption of Gulf War I given that Iraq did not comply with the terms of cease-fire.

23 posted on 04/11/2008 3:45:24 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Moseley; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...

WELL! Isn’t this interesting.


24 posted on 04/11/2008 3:49:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: marron
Apropos probably of nothing, has anyone ever bothered to ask where Libya's yellowcake came from?

Nobody in the press, of course. But there is evidence it definitely came from Niger.

And some of it, at least, may well have been Saddam's yellowcake.

You're aware, of course, that -- in Jan-Feb, before his NYT op-ed -- Joe Wilson was writing columns and making speeches arguing against any American intervention in Iraq. Why? Because Saddam had WMD...and he would use them.

Joe Wilson belongs in the nation's rogue's gallery.

25 posted on 04/11/2008 3:54:03 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: jveritas

Ping.


26 posted on 04/11/2008 3:56:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Moseley

The link is to a solicitation to buy a book the reveals the memo??????

How about posting the memo as a basis for the headline.


27 posted on 04/11/2008 3:56:57 PM PDT by Boblo
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To: mnehrling

But yellow cake sounds so harmless...and tasty!
susie


28 posted on 04/11/2008 4:00:24 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Moseley
"The Prime Minister of Niger at the time reported confidentially to the US State Department that the topic of the meeting was uranium yellowcake (ore), which Iraq wanted to buy. He was in the meeting and he says it was about uranium."

Thanks for the clarification. I did see/read that from the link you gave.

29 posted on 04/11/2008 4:07:58 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Liberty Valance
"But how convoluted is a prosecution where they end up convicting Scooter Libby?"

Gotta agree with you there. They have proof that the Iraqis did contact Niger officials, which the Bush Admin had discussed, and they are prosecuting Scooter about not remember something and saying one thing that wasn't correct... when the Bush Admin was right in the first place on the issue.

We need to deal a blow to the Democrats like the US troops are doing to al-Qaeda in Iraq. I am past the point of being able to call Democrats... Americans.

30 posted on 04/11/2008 4:13:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Moseley

BUMP!
I hope Brit Hume has this.


31 posted on 04/11/2008 4:14:33 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: marron
"Actually, Wilson's article doesn't mention that fact. In later articles, as information bled out that he had lied in his first article, he would add detail attempting to cover himself. It was Tenet that first revealed that Wilson told him, verbally, what he didn't mention in his op-ed.

What Wilson's article does do, however, is play a sleight of hand. He ignores the charge that Saddam tried to obtain uranium, instead attempting to prove that such a sale didn't transpire."

Thanks for the clarification and for all of your post. I understand it better now.

32 posted on 04/11/2008 4:16:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Boblo

NO, NO. The memo is available for free at the link below. The book is only confirmation of the story. The main story is from a website maintained by the Associated Press that posted all the documents from the trial. Sorry for the confusion. Go to:

THE STATE DEPARTMENT REPORT DECLASSIFIED IN THE SCOOTER LIBBEY TRIAL CANDIDLY ADMITS:

http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/jan23/DX71.pdf

If you have any trouble start with the index of all the court exhibits posted by the Associated Press:
http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/


33 posted on 04/11/2008 4:23:49 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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To: Moseley

And the book has nothing to do with the website. It’s only there to show that the conclusions are not off-base


34 posted on 04/11/2008 4:24:58 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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To: Moseley

What does this article tell us that we didn’t know on or before October 2003?


35 posted on 04/11/2008 4:26:40 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Moseley
do I really have to say it???
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36 posted on 04/11/2008 4:47:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SandRat

WELL! Isn’t this interesting.
~~~
Ain’t Dat The Truth...


37 posted on 04/11/2008 4:49:33 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: YHAOS

Let me know if you get an answer on that


38 posted on 04/11/2008 5:08:51 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: ikez78

Yeah. No kidding.


39 posted on 04/11/2008 5:12:37 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

Ummm... Who do you mean by “we?” (a) intelligent people with their eyes open, or (b) those trying mightily to hide from the truth? Yes, those of us with brains “knew” this in October 2003. But the MSM and the liberals have convinced themselves that “Bush lied.” They are the liars.


40 posted on 04/11/2008 5:17:53 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ConservativeEvents.com)
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To: Judith Anne; All

The Rockefeller Memo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513709/posts


41 posted on 04/11/2008 5:46:51 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Kaslin; Jen's Mom

Ping


42 posted on 04/11/2008 5:53:33 PM PDT by Tut
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To: Moseley
I don't know that I have any substantial disagreement with you. In fact, I believe that I don't.

Let me just say that, by definition, those who lie (those whom you identify as liars, or otherwise as Liberals and the MSM), know the truth as well as you and I. They simply haven't the nerve to admit it. So, I guess by 'we' I mean just about everyone. The willing and the unwilling alike.

43 posted on 04/11/2008 6:28:01 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Moseley

*BUMP* ! . . . *Ping*!


44 posted on 04/11/2008 6:30:19 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Moseley

I take it CNN, and the rest of the MSM are running retractions every 10 minutes or so? No? I haven’t seen them yet. Wonder how long until it gets reported on the nightly snewze....


45 posted on 04/11/2008 6:30:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Drunken Ted Kennedy, the do-nothing, playboy, silver spoon killer of Mary Jo Kopechne, should be expelled from the Senate, tried for treason, and hanged (assuming there’s a rope that can hold up that fat slob’s carcass).

Rohan Gunaratna: If US pulls out of Iraq,
it would be forced to return in 2 years to fight AQI.
BrettWinterble.Com | 04/11/2008 | Brett Winterble
Posted on 04/11/2008 1:37:16 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000247/posts

Petraeus and Crocker Meet the Real Enemy
FrontPageMagazine.com | 4/11/2008 | Michael Reagan
Posted on 04/11/2008 5:21:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000357/posts


46 posted on 04/11/2008 6:55:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Ramius

“It’s not actually a new war. It is a resumption of Gulf War I given that Iraq did not comply with the terms of cease-fire. “

Problem is that most of the population of the U.S. has a memory retention of about two weeks.


47 posted on 04/11/2008 9:13:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: marron

Joe Wilson had a company called JCWilson Ventures, INTL.

He was on his way to Niger on ‘company business’ when he was asked by the CIA to ‘spy’ on the yellowcake ore sales.

He went on these trips ONCE during the CLINTON admin, and AGAIN during the BUSH admin.

They ‘asked’ him because he had ‘close’ contacts with the people in Niger that sold the ore.

Joe’s close contact was the President of Niger. Joe’s company is a broker for the President of Niger.

The President of Niger deals in the country’s only export, which is yellowcake ore.

Joe ‘knew’ the deal didn’t go through, because the President of Niger refused. If he had not, Joe would have been the one making the deal, because that is what his company does, and that is why he went in the first place.

The lefties in the CIA thought it was funny that the man they selected to ‘spy’ for them was also the one making money off the sales of that same item.

Did JOE make money off any ‘illegal’ sales of the ore?

We may never know.


48 posted on 04/11/2008 9:23:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Moseley

Check out the UK Butler Report Chapter 6.4
Uranium from Africa page 121

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Politics/documents/2004/07/14/butler.pdf


49 posted on 04/11/2008 10:38:41 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: marron

Thanks for the ping! The article provides the full text of a memo that previously appeared in censored form in the Senate report on Iraq intelligence. It reads:


Former Nigerien Prime Minister Ibrahim ((MAYAKI)), who was Niger’s Foreign Minister from 1996-1997 and Niger’s Prime Minister from 1997-1999 and who has maintained close ties to the current Nigerien Government, stated he was unaware of any contracts being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of yellowcake during his tenure as both Foreign Minister and Prime Minister, MAYAKI, HOWEVER, DID RELATE THAT IN JUNE 1999 BARKA ((TEFRIDJ)), A NIGERIEN/ALGERIAN BUSINESSMAN, APPROACHED HIM AND INSISTED THAT MAYAKI MEET WITH AN IRAQI DELEGATION TO DISCUSS “EXPANDING COMMERCIAL RELATIONS” BETWEEN NIGER AND IRAQ. ALTHOUGH THE MEETING TOOK PLACE, MAYAKI LET THE MATTER DROP DUE TO THE UNITED NATIONS (UN) SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ AND THE FACT THAT HE OPPOSED DOING BUSINESS WITH IRAQ. MAYAKI SAID THAT HE INTERPRETED THE PHRASE “EXPANDING COMMERCIAL RELATIONS” TO MEAN THAT IRAQ WANTED TO DISCUSS URANIUM YELLOWCAKE SALES. MAYAKI SAID HE UNDERSTOOD ROGUE STATES WOULD LIKE TO EXPLOIT NIGER’S RESOURCES, SPECIFICALLY URANIUM, but he believed that the Nigerien Government’s regard for the United States (U.S.) as a close ally would prevent sales to these states from taking place despite Niger’s economic woes.



50 posted on 04/12/2008 8:59:24 PM PDT by Fedora
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