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To: avacado; Moseley; Fedora
Even Joe Wilson's article states that Iraqis made contact with Niger officials. We know that already!

Actually, Wilson's article doesn't mention that fact. In later articles, as information bled out that he had lied in his first article, he would add detail attempting to cover himself. It was Tenet that first revealed that Wilson told him, verbally, what he didn't mention in his op-ed.

What Wilson's article does do, however, is play a sleight of hand. He ignores the charge that Saddam tried to obtain uranium, instead attempting to prove that such a sale didn't transpire.

His proof that it didn't happen is to say that IAEA monitored uranium mining too closely for such a thing to occur. The truth was otherwise; IAEA wasn't monitoring these mines at all. The reasons were as follows: Niger hadn't yet passed laws allowing the inspectors into the country; IAEA claimed it didn't have the personnel anyway, and thirdly, that yellowcake is considered by them to be low-grade ore not worthy of monitoring directly. Yellowcake sales are supposed to be self-monitored, the countries involved are requested to notify IAEA themselves.

Apropos probably of nothing, has anyone ever bothered to ask where Libya's yellowcake came from? Since, according to Wilson, contraband of uranium is impossible, where did theirs come from?

The answer is, Niger. Half their supply was smuggled in from Niger, and then later self-reported. The other half was smuggled in from Niger and never self-reported. Perhaps "smuggle" is too strong a word, since it was probably simply purchased and delivered. But Wilson's claim that uranium sales to rogue states are impossible, is just silly on the face of it.

21 posted on 04/11/2008 3:40:19 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Apropos probably of nothing, has anyone ever bothered to ask where Libya's yellowcake came from?

Nobody in the press, of course. But there is evidence it definitely came from Niger.

And some of it, at least, may well have been Saddam's yellowcake.

You're aware, of course, that -- in Jan-Feb, before his NYT op-ed -- Joe Wilson was writing columns and making speeches arguing against any American intervention in Iraq. Why? Because Saddam had WMD...and he would use them.

Joe Wilson belongs in the nation's rogue's gallery.

25 posted on 04/11/2008 3:54:03 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: marron
"Actually, Wilson's article doesn't mention that fact. In later articles, as information bled out that he had lied in his first article, he would add detail attempting to cover himself. It was Tenet that first revealed that Wilson told him, verbally, what he didn't mention in his op-ed.

What Wilson's article does do, however, is play a sleight of hand. He ignores the charge that Saddam tried to obtain uranium, instead attempting to prove that such a sale didn't transpire."

Thanks for the clarification and for all of your post. I understand it better now.

32 posted on 04/11/2008 4:16:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: marron

Joe Wilson had a company called JCWilson Ventures, INTL.

He was on his way to Niger on ‘company business’ when he was asked by the CIA to ‘spy’ on the yellowcake ore sales.

He went on these trips ONCE during the CLINTON admin, and AGAIN during the BUSH admin.

They ‘asked’ him because he had ‘close’ contacts with the people in Niger that sold the ore.

Joe’s close contact was the President of Niger. Joe’s company is a broker for the President of Niger.

The President of Niger deals in the country’s only export, which is yellowcake ore.

Joe ‘knew’ the deal didn’t go through, because the President of Niger refused. If he had not, Joe would have been the one making the deal, because that is what his company does, and that is why he went in the first place.

The lefties in the CIA thought it was funny that the man they selected to ‘spy’ for them was also the one making money off the sales of that same item.

Did JOE make money off any ‘illegal’ sales of the ore?

We may never know.


48 posted on 04/11/2008 9:23:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: marron

Thanks for the ping! The article provides the full text of a memo that previously appeared in censored form in the Senate report on Iraq intelligence. It reads:


Former Nigerien Prime Minister Ibrahim ((MAYAKI)), who was Niger’s Foreign Minister from 1996-1997 and Niger’s Prime Minister from 1997-1999 and who has maintained close ties to the current Nigerien Government, stated he was unaware of any contracts being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of yellowcake during his tenure as both Foreign Minister and Prime Minister, MAYAKI, HOWEVER, DID RELATE THAT IN JUNE 1999 BARKA ((TEFRIDJ)), A NIGERIEN/ALGERIAN BUSINESSMAN, APPROACHED HIM AND INSISTED THAT MAYAKI MEET WITH AN IRAQI DELEGATION TO DISCUSS “EXPANDING COMMERCIAL RELATIONS” BETWEEN NIGER AND IRAQ. ALTHOUGH THE MEETING TOOK PLACE, MAYAKI LET THE MATTER DROP DUE TO THE UNITED NATIONS (UN) SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ AND THE FACT THAT HE OPPOSED DOING BUSINESS WITH IRAQ. MAYAKI SAID THAT HE INTERPRETED THE PHRASE “EXPANDING COMMERCIAL RELATIONS” TO MEAN THAT IRAQ WANTED TO DISCUSS URANIUM YELLOWCAKE SALES. MAYAKI SAID HE UNDERSTOOD ROGUE STATES WOULD LIKE TO EXPLOIT NIGER’S RESOURCES, SPECIFICALLY URANIUM, but he believed that the Nigerien Government’s regard for the United States (U.S.) as a close ally would prevent sales to these states from taking place despite Niger’s economic woes.



50 posted on 04/12/2008 8:59:24 PM PDT by Fedora
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