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France calls for "international force" against maritime piracy
AFP via translation | April 12, 2008

Posted on 04/12/2008 3:18:03 AM PDT by HAL9000

via translation -

France calls for "international force" against maritime piracy

TOKYO - France calls for the creation of an "international force" under a UN mandate to combat acts of piracy at sea, such as the diversion of Ponant by Somalis, said Saturday french Prime Minister Francois Fillon you! a visit to Japan.

"We are going to ask that under UN mandate an international force, to which France is naturally ready to participate, to work towards the safety and security of maritime transport in the region, as in the Malacca Strait," said M . Fillon in a speech before the French Japan, on the french warship "Mistral", with a stopover in Tokyo.

Jean-David Levitte, the diplomatic adviser of Nicolas Sarkozy told the press Friday that the french president proposed an "international effort" to combat piracy at sea, without specifying that it was the introduction of a strength.

Mr. Fillon also indicated that the commando operation against french Somali pirates once came ashore after payment of the sum of money claimed, "has helped recover half of the ransom.

Sources close the dossier had reported Friday the recovery of a portion of the ransom paid by the owner of the three towers.

The crew of the sailboat Ponant, who was on board a warship french, is expected soon to Djibouti, from where it returns to France by plane.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; japan; leponant; maritime; piracy; pirates; somalia; unitednations

1 posted on 04/12/2008 3:18:04 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

He would do better to work for a multi-lateral force of like-minded nations, rather than the UN. There are countries in the UN that will want to protect the pirates, and will do everything they can to make sure that any UN force would be ineffective.

In Islam, piracy is perfectly acceptable and the pirates are the good guys.


2 posted on 04/12/2008 3:31:16 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: HAL9000
I like Sarkozy, however modern piracy isn't driven by the same factors it was 200 years ago. It's a cultural phenomena now. I would state that it's probably accurate to align modern piracy with the same groups that promote islamic terrorism and that modern piracy is essentially an "act of terror".

So IMHO, piracy, particularly the incident with the somalia pirates is just another aspect of extremist islamic terrorism. It should be handled as simply another aspect of the war on terror.

If the French can assist in rallying the international community to commit resources to the overall war on terror, then I have no issue with expanding the war to encompass piracy.

However I fail to see the need to invest US resources any further than they are being stretched, otherwise. The other nations interested in peace need to do more. Our brave allies are already in the fight, we need more nations interested in peace to commit resources.

3 posted on 04/12/2008 3:38:54 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

One guess what nation would bear the burden of this.

The UN? Is he out of his mind??
Piracy calls for swift and determined action to project lethal force and kill the criminals on the high seas.

The UN can do nothing of the sort.


4 posted on 04/12/2008 3:47:28 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: HAL9000
Sarkozy calling for the UN?

Man up and join us, Mr. President.

US Navy's been spanking these terrorist hoodlums for years.

060121-N-5358A-006 INDIAN OCEAN (Jan. 21, 2006) - The U.S. Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81) follows a suspected pirate vessel in the Indian Ocean Jan. 21. After receiving a report of an attempted act of piracy from the International Maritime Bureau in Kuala Lumpur on the morning of Jan. 20, the guided missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81) and other U.S. naval forces in the area located this vessel controlled by suspected pirates and reported its position. After some aggressive action by Churchill, US Sailors later established communications and boarded the vessel. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Information Systems Technician Kenneth Anderson (RELEASED)

Suspected Pirates Captured Off Somali Coast

5 posted on 04/12/2008 3:48:45 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: HAL9000

Calling Horatio Hornblower!!


6 posted on 04/12/2008 3:49:15 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: gridlock
In Islam, piracy is perfectly acceptable...

Issat right.

Well, anyway, the people that worry me the most are the ones that don't know, and they don't know that they don't know.

Are you following me?

7 posted on 04/12/2008 4:18:32 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: HAL9000
Why doesn't France use it's NATO troops against pirates, that should clear up any problem in less than a week.
8 posted on 04/12/2008 4:19:03 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: HAL9000

Strange thing. Our media hasn’t told us the ethnicity and “religion” of the pirates.


9 posted on 04/12/2008 4:38:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: HAL9000

The French have a big enough navy to coordinate with the Somalian/Ethiopian grounds forces to take out these “pirates”. Why waste time going to the UN other than to just talk and claim your doing something about the problem.


10 posted on 04/12/2008 5:08:21 AM PDT by neb52
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Sink anything that leaves the shoreline of that African pesthole for a generation. Repeat as necessary.


11 posted on 04/12/2008 5:10:44 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: andyandval
Yep, it sure has...


12 posted on 04/12/2008 5:24:25 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: HAL9000

I wonder if the Navy has any of the predators. If those could be operated from carriers, could they shadow our ships? When something like those Iranian speed boats showed up, they could swing in unnoticed right behind them. The video could probably be patched to the ship. Any hint of monkey business and it would be hellfire time. Having a recording of the hostile act would be priceless.

Voiceover on the tape.

“This was the Iranian boat ignoring the order to standoff. This is a closeup of the Iranian picking up the rocket launcher. This is the result of the impact of the Hellfire.”

“Any questions from the press?”


13 posted on 04/12/2008 5:34:58 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: HAL9000

Earth to France. When someone attacks your citizens, don’t try to set up an international force. Go kill the ragheads yourselves. Grow a pair, you boobs!


14 posted on 04/12/2008 5:36:47 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: HAL9000

International Piracy, International Terrorism, Islam.
I don’t see any difference between them. They are all the same thing.
Besides, nothing is as neutered, ineffectual and corrupt as the U.N.
We need to start by booting the U.N. from our shores.


15 posted on 04/12/2008 5:37:16 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: TYVets

The French did use troops against the pirates this week. They caught six of them and got back most of the money paid as ransom as the pirates landed.

I think that the next step would be to shell the villages where the pirates sail from.


16 posted on 04/12/2008 5:52:42 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: bill1952
The UN can do nothing of the sort.

Agreed, the only thing the UN could do is bore them to death with endless debates and worthless resolutions. In the end, some pirate sympathizing country would simply veto any action.

17 posted on 04/12/2008 5:52:46 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: HAL9000

What, are the French asking for the Marines again? We already cleaned up Europe’s Mediterranean pirate mess one time, now they need us again.


18 posted on 04/12/2008 6:15:41 AM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

We need to send them another Stephen Decatur.

If only we had another Stephen Decatur.


19 posted on 04/12/2008 6:28:33 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: saganite
Actually, we, along with other European nations tried to pay them off first. As might be expected, they didn't stay bought.

"Payments in ransom and tribute to the Barbary states amounted to 20% of United States government annual revenues in 1800."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

Time to change modes folks. See below for the Tripoli Monument at the US Naval Academy.


20 posted on 04/12/2008 6:31:38 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: andyandval
The linked post is disturbing.

It does NOT say what happened to the pirates. It does NOT say what happened to their vessel.

Of course, the larger vessel was the mother ship for the small boats which waylaid commercial vessels. It should have been sunk and the pirates at least taken into custody, naval yardarms of today not being strong enough from which to hang multiple pirates.

None of that happened, according to the linked article. "Go pirate, and sin no more. Please."

21 posted on 04/12/2008 6:35:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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To: neb52

Agreed. Anything that gives the UN any hint
of credibility will cost the U.S. forever.
If they board your ship, sink all of theirs.


22 posted on 04/12/2008 6:39:46 AM PDT by Fireone (We need the 2nd Amendment to ensure the others. It's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling.)
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To: Fireone

Did I mention....
Get the U.S. out of the UN and,
get the UN out of the U.S.!


23 posted on 04/12/2008 6:41:28 AM PDT by Fireone (We need the 2nd Amendment to ensure the others. It's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling.)
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To: HAL9000
Pirates?


"Did someone say 'Pirates'?"


(Errol Flynn could whip their butts)

24 posted on 04/12/2008 7:15:11 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Kenny Bunk
From the link...

the U.S. 5th Fleet captured a group of suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean

I would like to think they are still in our hands and out of the bad guy business...

25 posted on 04/12/2008 7:19:38 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

That’s awesome.


26 posted on 04/12/2008 7:20:23 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: meatloaf
I wonder if the Navy has any of the predators. If those could be operated from carriers, could they shadow our ships? When something like those Iranian speed boats showed up, they could swing in unnoticed right behind them. The video could probably be patched to the ship. Any hint of monkey business and it would be hellfire time. Having a recording of the hostile act would be priceless.

Yep, the Navy bought one to test two years ago. IIRC, they were planning on more surveillance hardware than weaponry - but they could use a mix of different configurations. I suspect they've bought quite a few by now, seeing how the Predator-B was already a known commodity.

27 posted on 04/12/2008 7:27:43 AM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: HAL9000

Funny that France want’s to apply force to the pirates, and they want it to be “international”. Cannot they protect their own boats?
I agree that the pirates are out of control, but someone needs to address the fact that lots of these pirates are coming from Muslim based countries.
Not just a coincidence, IMO.


28 posted on 04/12/2008 7:40:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: HAL9000
Calling Ponant a "Sailboat" is a bit misleading
29 posted on 04/12/2008 8:56:00 AM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: HAL9000

Let Korea, Japan, and China guard the Malacca Strait since they are shipping oil and coal through there.


30 posted on 04/12/2008 8:58:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: andyandval

If they’re still in our hands, expect the ACLU and the Democrat Party to insist on their rights to lawyers and our courts.


31 posted on 04/12/2008 10:40:01 AM PDT by Spouting Horn (Terrorism is a tactic. Our battle should be waged against the Shariah and Jihad.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The GIGN attacked the pirates. killed all but 6, those they took down at gunpoint. The Frogs blew up their trucks, ammo dump and were accused of killing “innicent bystanders” with rocket fire.

In short - they got thier people back.

Went in and kicked ass.

Didn’t bother to take any names.

The reason they only got 1/2 the money back is the other 1/2 burned up with the bad guys.

I think the call for a UN force is for home consumption - seems France has a bad infestation....


32 posted on 04/12/2008 10:48:05 AM PDT by ASOC (Training Storungen werden auf Papier notiert. Taktische Storungen werden im Stein geatzt. Gen Rommel)
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To: HAL9000

33 posted on 04/12/2008 11:01:06 AM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

The West has been fighting against Muslim pirates for about 450 of the last 500 years. Where have you been?


34 posted on 04/12/2008 1:22:37 PM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Earth to Michael T Archangel : we went and killed the ragheads ourselves. And a multinational force already exists - I think it even operates under French command right now. The idea behind the speech was to get better support for anti-piracy operations. The pirates who operate off Somalia and in the Malacca Straight attack even huge targets like ferries and tankers.

I could make a “grow a ———, boob” comment, just for poetic justice’s sake, but I think I’ll refrain from it.


35 posted on 04/15/2008 7:40:07 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend
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To: HAL9000

France needs the help of the whole world to fight a handful of pirates and we can’t beat and armed band of two bit satan worshiping thugs in seven years. Christians had best read 2 Chronicles 7:13&14 and take it to heart.


36 posted on 04/15/2008 7:44:08 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (No wonder we have less than 1 child per couple in the USA, men have no stones.)
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