"Better to be wanted by the police than not wanted at all."
Anonymous
Posted on 04/13/2008 4:50:05 AM PDT by markomalley
| Madrid, Apr 11, 2008 / 03:21 pm (CNA).- The Spanish magazine Huellas has published an interview with Sylvie Menard, one of the most renowned oncologists in Europe who for many years was a supporter of euthanasia but several months ago changed her views after she was diagnosed with bone cancer.
Menard told the magazine that she always believed that each person should decide his own fate, but ‘when I became ill, I changed my position radically.” “When you get sick, death ceases to be something virtual and becomes something that is with you every day,” she said. “So you say to yourself: ‘I am going to do everything possible to live as long as possible.” Menard, who is married and has one son, acknowledged, “Today anything that means a new chance at life is valuable to me.” Despite her illness, she continues as head of the Experimental Oncology Department at the Institute of Cancer in Milan. She said that those who promote euthanasia do so for two reasons: they don’t want to suffer and they don’t want to lose self-sufficiency, thus becoming a burden for others. She agreed that people who are ill “do not want to experience pain” and that “they have a right to alleviate it”. She also emphasized that “pain therapy has advanced considerably in recent years.” “Even if you do not have complete use of your faculties and you cannot get up because you are confined to bed, but you still have the affection of your family members, in my opinion, even in those conditions, it’s worth it to keep living,” she said. |
How bloody typical..
ping
Another mugged lefty.
I hope she wins her fight.
Although it seems the woman suffers from a lack of compassion for others, at least she admits she was wrong.
"Better to be wanted by the police than not wanted at all."
Anonymous
This is confusing two, and maybe three, issues as if they are one.
First issue: Most (virtually all) people with terminal illness want to live as long as possible. I have seen two suicides in 32 years of practice, heavily focused on serious/terminal illness. Healthy people, including doctors, often think "I would never want to live like that", but mostly they have no clue.
Second: Patients should not be killed. Ever. Well, hardly ever.
Thirdly: Every once in a great while, there is suffering so grave, and so compelling, that adequate palliative therapy ends life. Most doctors never experience this (because they avoid the deathbed like it was radioactive). But it's real, and when it happens you never forget it.
No physician has ever been convicted of a crime under the circumstances alluded to in #3, although occasionally an elected DA in trouble will seek an indictment.
If this oncologist practiced her whole life thinking terminally ill cancer patients wanted to die, she must be deaf, dumb, and blind.
Ya think!!!!!
Ya think!!!!!
gee another lib/dem convert...how convenient!!!!
That second reason boils down to money.
And now that the state is picking up the bill, suddenly the state has an interest in moving the process of death along as cost-effectively as possible.
Also, see the story of the prodigal son.
A rare convert from the ideology of mental disturbance.
For some people life becomes more valuable as the end nears, for some it becomes less.
I’ve known - and respected - people who have made both kinds of choices.
Dr. Menard has made hers, I believe the rest of us ought to have the right to do the same.
Since she has changed her position, one can only conclude that now she believes OTHERS should chose her fate.
Very cruel.
“Dr. Peter Singer (AKA: Mr. Let’s-kill-the-babies-elderly-and-anyone-that-is-not-perfect) also came to this same startling conclusion after his mother was diagnosed with Alzheimers. “
Really?
I hadn’t heard about that...is that a recent event?
Your references made the point I was going to try to make much more succintly than I would have been able to. Thanks.
**“So you say to yourself: ‘I am going to do everything possible to live as long as possible.”**
Did her brain start working?
Ping...
No, this was some time ago ... maybe a few years. You ought to be able to Google something on it. His convictions about legalized euthanasia are fundamentally the same, but he ‘came’ to see that maybe people who are disabled have a right to life and those who care for them still are entitled to their loved ones for as long as they have life left in them.
Not exactly. His mother is the exception to the rule. He still wants you to be killed at the first opportunity.
VIEW: No diseases for old men
Peter Singer
April 03, 2008
Singer says that if we don't know a patient's wishes, we should deny them antibiotics for life-threatening infections. If we know for sure that they do want treatment, sometimes we should still deny them basic care, causing their death. He says the patient's religious beliefs should not be honored, because that infringes on society's rights. So if a patient wants to live for religious reasons, they should be killed. (He was specifically referring to the Joos with those comments, but presumably intended it for all religions.) He says that doctors should not be required to treat patients whose lives they consider futile. (Not that the treatment is futile, but that the patient is futile. Lebensunwertes Leben.) He blathers on and on about all the reasons we should kill severely disabled people against their will. He even hits on the monetary motivation so popular with the kill-them-all crowd. He singles out Samuel Golubchuk of Winnipeg, Canada for a special dose of hatred, because Mr. Golubchuk, a Jew, refuses to accept that he's merely a part of the surplus population and should die immediately, if not sooner.
So as of a week and a half ago, Singer had not changed his mind. He's just a hypocrite. Dick Vomer said it well in post #8, when referring to Sylvie Menard. typical lib, laws for Thee and not for me.... I'm special and deserve to live.... you and yours...not so much. That applies very well to Peter Singer.
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