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Hatfill v. US - DOJ and FBI Statement of Facts (filed Friday)
US DOJ and FBI Memorandum In Support of Motion For Summary Judgment (Statement of Facts) | April 11, 2008 | Department of Justice

Posted on 04/13/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by ZacandPook

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To: jpl
... we're sure been getting a lot of that lately regarding Hatfill and anthrax, haven't we?

Yes. I don't want to speculate, but I find it VERY interesting that the mediation sessions were scheduled to end on May 12, and there's been no word about how they went. Nor have there been any rebuttals to the Motions for Summary Judgments. Those were due over a month ago.

Ed at

981 posted on 06/26/2008 9:42:46 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake; jpl; TrebleRebel

That’s not true there are no real secrets in Amerithrax. The name of the mailer has never been publicly mentioned in any context — such as a report of a search, a subpoena, etc.

982 posted on 06/26/2008 5:10:56 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel

Someone from the Army Chemical Corps was quoted in the press today about going into the Florida newspaper office:

“It was pretty scary at first, to be honest; there was a lot of apprehension going in there,” Corey said. “We didn’t know what we were getting into, nobody had ever done this before. It was a brand new experience and we didn’t really have anybody to fall back upon to get good advice from.”

The learning they did have — or the CDC would have had had they read the report in their inbox — involved testing done of mailed anthrax after the threat relating to the detention of Vanguards of Conquest #2 Mahmoud Mahjoub in late January 2001. It found that the anthrax immediately dispersed upon opening of the envelope and leaked before opening. US personnel separately were briefed on it months earlier before findings were formalized.

983 posted on 06/26/2008 6:23:20 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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With Hatfill settling at $5.8 million, the decks are clear for an Amerithrax indictment.

984 posted on 06/27/2008 1:52:03 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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Leahy reports that some of the briefings he has received have been highly classified.

“Leaks, focus on single suspect undercut anthrax probe,” Los Angeles Times, June 28, 2008,0,1652343.story

985 posted on 06/29/2008 2:14:27 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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Al Qaeda’s spymaster has written about anthrax and it is interesting to consider his relationship, if any, with Al-Zayat, the attorney KSM’s assistant al-Hawsawi seeks. (The laptop with anthrax spraydrying documents on it was actually al-Hawsawi’s computer, according to KSM).

     Spymaster-historian Al-Hukaymah was the author of the description of the Amerithrax investigation in 2002. He joined the Egyptian Islamic Group in 1979. He was arrested in 1981 after Sadat’s assassination. He once was arrested alongside the blind sheik Abdel-Rahman. Hukaymah is reportedly connected to the blind sheikh’s successor Taha, the Islamic Group head who was in close touch with the NY-based US postal employee Sattar, the blind sheik’s “surrogate,” in 1999 and 2000. Al-Hukaymah dedicated the treatise “[t]o the pious and the hidden who are not known when they come and who are not missed when they disappear — To those whom their God will answer when they pray to Him. To all the eyes that are vigilant late at night to bring victory to this religion.” 

     The introduction of the 152-page book starts:

      “The Manhattan raid led to a radical change in the perception of American Security. After the northern half of the continent had been isolated from the rest of the world and its threats by two oceans, it now came from inside. The surprise hit the symbols of American power in its economic and security dimensions.”

     Published at al-Maqreze Center for Historical Studies website ( by the one-time EIJ shura member al-Sibai, the section on the anthrax investigation appears to have been written in 2002.

“The Anthrax Scandal:
Over many months, there was an excited search for the person responsible for the worst biological terror attack on American soil. Six letters sent by mail to Leahy, Daschle, Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather, The New York Post and the offices of the National Enquirer in Florida, led to the sickening of 18 people and five deaths. The crime was especially scary because anthrax, which is a complex powder that scatters in the atmosphere, had spilled from the envelopes and spread through parts of the mail system and contaminated a Senate building. One year later, the main post office in Washington had not yet opened.

The FBI is under great pressure to close this case, and the anthrax criminal is supposed to be alive and free. Two members of the Senate have asked to receive regular reports about this investigation from the FBI, and they have become increasingly impatient.”

     After a lengthy discussion of the focus on Hatfill, the author explains,
“Until the investigators find material evidence that connects a person to the crime, they are forced to speculate about the motives and methods of the criminal. They are still casting a wide net. Law enforcement sources say they have issued hundreds of subpoenas and they are analyzing thousands of documents in search of new evidence.

     The evidence may be small and unseen - sweat or an odor on an envelope - but that is all that they need in order to attract the dogs.”

     Al-Hukaymah pointed to the Aldrich Ames incident and the FBI’s inability to find the perpetrator of the anthrax mailings as evidence that U.S intelligence can be defeated. Aldrich Ames, head of counterintelligence relating to the Russians, had a different rolex for different days of the week. He drove a new jaguar to work. Aldrich told the CIA that his money came from his wife’s foreign inheritance, and the CIA never required meaningful corroboration. So we should not be that surprised when someone known, to borrow Dr. Alibek’s description to me, as an “Islamic hardliner,” is given access to Center for Biodefense and ATCC facilities, to include a program funded by DARPA’s $13 million during the relevant period. Perhaps the focus should not be on more money, for biodefense but on doing a better job at maintaining security. Perhaps focus should be on avoiding proliferation of know-how. Perhaps vigilance should be maintained in avoiding penetration by moles and infiltrators.

     Al-Hukaymah reportedly was Ayman’s connection to Mamdouh Ismail, an Egyptian defense attorney and a former member of “the Jihad group” who since the 1980’s has represented various Egyptians accused of terrorism offenses in Egypt. Mamdouh Ismail represented al-Nashar, the biochemist who was an expert on polymerization and had a key to the 7/7 bomber’s flat. Ismail was one of several hundred rounded up following the assassination of Anwar al-Sadat in 1981. He served three years. Ismail was arrested on March 29, 2007. In 1999, Ismail was refused permission to establish an Islamist political party (called Hizb ash-Shari’a) with the help of fellow lawyer attorney al-Zayyat.

After the blind sheik said in March 1999 that an attempt through a political party should not be attempted, Al-Zayat and Mamdouh Ismail deferred and Attorney Ismail has publicly objected to a reconciliation between Cairo and Egyptian Islamic Jihad. The two had worked with EIJ shura member al-Sibai before he took refuge in the UK. Mamdouh Ismail was accused of complicity in an “Egyptian project” of al-Qaeda, taking his orders from Ayman al-Zawahiri via al-Qaeda propaganda chief al-Hukaymah and the UK-based EIJ publicist Hani al-Sibai. Both al-Hukaymah and Al-Sibai deny the charge. Al Sibai considers himself historian of the movement and published his diaries in Al Hayat in 2004. He is at al-Maqreze Center for Historical Studies website that published the treatise that included the discussion of Amerithrax. Al-Hawsawi has also asked for the assistance of a counsel from London.

986 posted on 07/10/2008 5:01:47 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK (
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To: TrebleRebel; jpl; Shermy; Mitchell

Now isn’t this what I’ve been saying all along? Judge Mukasey handled the prosecution of Blind Sheik Abdel-Rahman. His “um” says more than most.

“Senate Judiciary Cmte. on DOJ Oversight, July 9, 2008”

From CSPAN (4 minutes from the end)

Leahy: I almost hate to get into the case of Steven Hatfill. I’ve refrained from discussing this, I’ve refused to discuss it with the press. I’ve told them some aspects of it I was aware of were classified so of course I could not discuss it but also, considering the fact that my life was threatened by an anthrax letter, two people died who touched a letter addressed to me I was supposed to open, I’m somewhat concerned.
What happened?

Mukasey: That case ...

Leahy: We’re paying Hatfill millions of dollars, the indication being the guy who committed the crime went free.

Mukasey: Well, um, I don’t understand, quote, the guy who committed the crime, unquote, to have gone free. What I do understand is...

Leahy: Nobody’s been convicted.

Mukasey: Not yet.

Leahy: And five people are dead.

Mukasey: Yes, um...

Leahy: And hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent.

Mukasey: That case is under active investigation and I need to be very careful about what I say.

Leahy: We won’t go any further. As I say, I feel somewhat reluctant because I was one of the targets. But I gotta say, what families of the people who died went through, what families of the people who were crippled went through, even what my family went through. A lot of people are concerned and I won’t say more because we are in open session but I think you and I probably should have a private talk about this sometime.

Mukasey: That’s fine.

987 posted on 07/10/2008 10:35:33 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK (
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