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75% of Cities With Poor Graduation Rates Are Rated "Most Liberal"
Editorial Projects in Education Research Center/The Bay Area Center For Voting Research | 04/14/08 | Reaganesque

Posted on 04/14/2008 6:50:39 AM PDT by Reaganesque

Recently, Collin Powell's new group, America's Promise Alliance, issued a report (the link to it is at the bottom center of their home page.) from the EPE Research Center listing the large cities in this country which had the worst graduation rates. Shockingly, many of our biggest cities have graduation rates of less than 50% with the worst, Detroit, graduating only 25% of it's high schoolers.

Given the perception that most cities are liberal leaning at best, I decided to see if there was any correlation between a city's liberalism and the results from this graduation rate study. Yes, I am a Conservative and am therefore had an ulterior motive however, the resulting numbers I found were sufficiently lopsided that, to me anyway, they would seem to be indicative of a possible correlation. I make no claim that this is the most scientific study ever but at the very least, I believe, it merits further consideration.

The worst 20 graduation rates, on the list are as follows:

1. Detroit, MI...24.9%
2. Indianapolis, IN...30.5
3. Cleveland, OH...34.1
4. Baltimore, MD...34.6
5. Columbus, OH...40.9
6. Minneapolis, MN...43.7
7. Dallas, TX...44.4
8. New York, NY....45.2
9. Los Angeles, CA...45.3
10. Oakland, CA...45.6
11. Kansas City, KS...45.7
12. Atlanta, GA...46.0
13. Milwaukee, WI...46.1
14. Denver, CO...46.3
15. Oklahoma City, OK...47.5
16. Miami, FL...49.0
17. Philadelphia, PA...49.6
18. Jacksonville, FL...50.2
19. Tulsa, OK...50.6
20. Chicago, IL...51.5

In 2005, a research group in San Fransisco, The Bay Area Center For Voting Research, ranked the nations cities from most to least Liberal. (For a complete list click here.) The list is 236 cities long and runs from most Liberal to least Liberal. For the sake of comparison, I divided the list into three groups of 79 cities; the three representing the most Liberal, "Moderate" and least Liberal. The top twenty Liberal cities, according to this list are:

1. Detroit, Michigan
2. Gary, Indiana
3. Berkeley, California
4. Washington, D.C.
5. Oakland, California
6. Inglewood, California
7. Newark, New Jersey
8. Cambridge, Massachusetts
9. San Francisco, California
10. Flint, Michigan
11. Cleveland, Ohio
12. Hartford, Connecticut
13. Paterson, New Jersey
14. Baltimore, Maryland
15. New Haven, Connecticut
16. Seattle, Washington
17. Chicago, Illinois
18. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
19. Birmingham, Alabama
20. St. Louis, Missouri

The first and most obvious similarity between the two lists is that Detroit is number one on both lists. Detroit has been considered a "Liberal" city since the early 1930s. Baltimore has been run by Liberals since 1967. Indeed, most of the cities on the "Most Liberal List" have been run by Liberals for the last 30-40 years or more.

Looking deeper into the comparison, I found that of the 20 worst cities for graduation rates, 70% of them (14 out of 20) are identified on the "Most Liberal Cities List" as Liberal. Of the remaining six cities, four fell into the "Moderate" category and the other four were considered "Least Liberal."

With all this said, it cannot be said that Liberalism is the sole, determining factor in these poor graduation rates in big cities. However, given the disproportionate representation of Liberal cities on this list, it would at least appear to be a contributing one. At the very least, more study should be done regarding this possible link. Surely the children of our biggest cities and their parents deserve to know if this is the case.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bluezone; democratparty; education; graduation; liberal; liberals; publiceducation; publicschools; rates; reports; urban
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1 posted on 04/14/2008 6:50:40 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: moder_ator; admin

Please correct the headline. It should read 70% not 75%.


2 posted on 04/14/2008 6:55:44 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque

I’m not surprised... modern liberalism just doesn’t hold up to statistical scrutiny. I ran a similar analysis of state minimum wages compared to home ownership and joblessness. The higher a state’s minimum wage, the less likely its people are to have a job or own their own home.


3 posted on 04/14/2008 7:02:23 AM PDT by underground (Viva la Socialisme Wall Street)
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To: Reaganesque

no surprise, liberals expect someone else to take care of them, since they cant make it on their own.

their mentatlity is, hey, I’m here, and the its up to the gov’t to make it all better for me.


4 posted on 04/14/2008 7:09:15 AM PDT by tm61
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To: Reaganesque

I look at that list and immediately get a mental picture of incompetent, corrupt, old-line Democratic party machine mayors and city councils - the kind that fixate on what brand of copy payer is purchased but who claim they can’t see the violence and squalor around them.


5 posted on 04/14/2008 7:19:02 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele

payer = paper (bad typing day!)


6 posted on 04/14/2008 7:19:51 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Reaganesque

We should be running ads stating these facts.

Can we raise enough money? If not, why not?

“Move On”, the liberal group runs ads all the time, if they can raise the money, so can we.


7 posted on 04/14/2008 7:24:22 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Reaganesque

The problem is obvious - public school teachers are underpaid.


8 posted on 04/14/2008 7:26:07 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Reaganesque
"75% of Cities With Poor Graduation Rates Are Rated "Most Liberal""

These people aren't really "liberal" in the correct sense of the word. They are part of the Proletariat and, as such, have no ideology. They simply want "something for nothing" and will vote for whichever politicial is most likely to deliver. Their beliefs are rooted only in nothing more or less than greed and jealousy. Their greed is a desire for anything that they haven't earned but was earned by someone else. Their jealousy is rooted in the belief that someone out there just might be getting more than they are. From birth, they are trained to be something far less than self actualizing humans who can stand on their own two feet. They offer not a scintilla of moral and spiritual muscle to the nation and they pass this failing on to their "get" many times over.

9 posted on 04/14/2008 7:26:07 AM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a serious mental illness)
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To: Reaganesque
Makes sense. Liberal cities give hand-outs to the lazy, so the lazy are attracted to a liberal city.
10 posted on 04/14/2008 7:27:56 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Reaganesque

There are so many other cities too that could be added to the liberal list. The conservative city list is so short. I wonder why liberals don’t win 80 percent of elections as they are so numerous. People are looking for “easy street” though liberalism.


11 posted on 04/14/2008 7:31:50 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: davisfh

Not moral in any human sense, but they are PC.


12 posted on 04/14/2008 7:31:52 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: davisfh

Yes, and their numbers are absolutely legion!


13 posted on 04/14/2008 7:32:48 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Reaganesque

Anyone want to step up and try to present a current social problem that CAN’T be traced to a “liberal” policy?

This is a challenge, I bet no one can do it.

I can probably handle most of the refutations, I’ll have several other FReepers helping me shoot down any proposed answer to this challenge, right?

So come on, FReepers, let’s put your liberal asshats on and TRY!


14 posted on 04/14/2008 7:33:00 AM PDT by MrB (There is no problem we face today that isn't the result of a liberal policy.)
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To: Reaganesque

Once a city turns liberals, it remains liberal. That is what Khrushchev thought about communism: once communist, always communist.


15 posted on 04/14/2008 7:34:00 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Reaganesque

I think (perhaps) a better correlation is that cities that are run by liberals produce a dependent class that feel there is no need to be educated. Just sit there on the couch and wait for the check to come.

I seriously doubt the people who aren’t graduating even know what liberal means. They just go vote for Dems because that is what they are told to do by their parents. Gotta keep voting dem and punching babies out so the checks keep coming.


16 posted on 04/14/2008 7:44:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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To: Reaganesque

ping


17 posted on 04/14/2008 7:44:47 AM PDT by phs3 (Call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
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To: Reaganesque

Public education in these cities should be considered a form of child-abuse.


18 posted on 04/14/2008 7:58:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Reaganesque
It will be interesting to contrast these lists with another list of cities where Obama got the best results in November…
19 posted on 04/14/2008 8:01:59 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Reaganesque

Golllly I am so proud to be from Indianapolis. Maybe if we try we can make number one by next year. There was an article in the local paper on Sunday that pretty much explains how we attained our lofty position. Graft, corruption, incompetence, no oversight and no one takes responsibility for anything. As one long time employee was quoted as saying after the new super made comments about new policies he was instituting, “this too will pass, just like all the others before.”


20 posted on 04/14/2008 8:03:22 AM PDT by redangus
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To: roses of sharon
We should be running ads stating these facts.

Now that would just be racist now wouldn't it.


21 posted on 04/14/2008 8:04:20 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Reaganesque

But the students have self esteem.


22 posted on 04/14/2008 8:09:08 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama: baby is punishment; tax increase is bundle of joy)
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To: Reaganesque

The correlation between the two lists is the percent minority population which is a strong indicator of both high drop out rates and one party (Democrat) rule. You could make it more precise if you found out the percent of minority enrollment in the public schools which can often be quite higher than the overall percent of the population.


23 posted on 04/14/2008 8:21:45 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: MtnClimber
"But the students have self esteem."

And we ALL know that is the most important thing, right?

24 posted on 04/14/2008 8:26:17 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Proud member of the largest 'Hate Group' in the USA...The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy")
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To: Reaganesque

Living all over the nation, teaching for now 47 years, the problem is and always has been: liberalism. If the electorate keeps electing liberal Dems, they will get even worse scores, more dependency, more govt. socialism, more national security pacifism, more multi-culturalism and more tax hikes. Yet the populace keeps electing these dopes because they want security from the womb to the grave and it is killing our free enterprise system, our cultural heritage from the Founders, and our superior military.


25 posted on 04/14/2008 9:20:37 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: MrB

The current state of Native American living on reservations and put there by certainly not liberals.


26 posted on 04/14/2008 9:52:04 AM PDT by Boblo
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To: Boblo

That’s something I hadn’t thought of, but I believe I can still justify my position.

The current state of ANY impoverished person in America IS due to leftist policies designed to maintain their victimhood over their success.

There is nothing standing in anyone’s way to success today except for the entitlement or victimhood mentality. And this mentality IS promoted by leftist policies.

Now, as to who put them on the reservations, I won’t delve into that, but the key phrase is CURRENT STATE.


27 posted on 04/14/2008 10:57:42 AM PDT by MrB (There is no problem we face today that isn't the result of a liberal policy.)
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To: MrB

I think they are a special case, effectively placed in internment camps for 120 years.


28 posted on 04/14/2008 11:11:40 AM PDT by Boblo
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To: redangus

“Golllly I am so proud to be from Indianapolis.”

I live just south of you and do everything I can to stay out of Indy. It’s also unsafe.


29 posted on 04/14/2008 11:17:12 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Boblo

In “internment camps” by definition would mean that they were being kept there through legal and forceful measures.

I had many NA people at my university classes, so I don’t think that’s the case.

People make choices, and staying on the res is a choice.

I’m finding it interesting that yours is the only reply I got to my challenge.


30 posted on 04/14/2008 11:26:09 AM PDT by MrB (There is no problem we face today that isn't the result of a liberal policy.)
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To: IamConservative

I will take your premise one step further.Most of those high school dropouts don’t even vote period.
Of course,if they did it would be for liberal Democrats but nearly all the ones I have met “just want to get my hustle on”and they think that politics is completely irrelevant to their lives.


31 posted on 04/14/2008 11:40:45 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: roses of sharon

Not a bad idea.


32 posted on 04/14/2008 2:05:14 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: IamConservative
Just sit there on the couch and wait for the check to come.

Like New Orleans. Worked out just great for them, didn't it?

33 posted on 04/14/2008 2:07:45 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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