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A Libertarian Surge?
Newsweak ^ | April 21, 2008 | George Will

Posted on 04/14/2008 9:46:20 AM PDT by Bobkk47

Compact and Feisty Bob Barr, 59, probably will seek and get the presidential nomination of the Libertarian Party, which convenes in Denver on Memorial Day weekend. Given the recent fund-raising prowess of a kindred spirit—Ron Paul's campaign for the Republican nomination siphoned up $35 million, mostly off the Internet—libertarians are feeling their oats. Come November, Barr conceivably could be to John McCain what Ralph Nader was to Al Gore in 2000—ruinous. Nader was a weak third-party candidate but was the most consequential in American history. He won only 2,882,955 popular votes nationwide (2.7 percent), but 97,488 of them were in Florida, where, because of Nader, George W. Bush won by 537 votes.

The son of a soldier, Barr graduated from high school in Tehran. In 1994, he was elected to Congress as the Republicans, led by another pugnacious Georgian, Newt Gingrich, ended 40 years of Democratic control of the House. Four years later, Barr, a former prosecutor inflamed by charges of perjury and obstruction of justice, was central to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Since losing his seat in 2002, he has been active in the National Rifle Association and the American Civil Liberties Union, an unusual tandem.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aclu; bobbarr; libertarian; libertarianparty; lp

1 posted on 04/14/2008 9:46:20 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: Bobkk47
What a JERK!

We don't need more confused LIBERLtarians. He'll just siphon off votes.

2 posted on 04/14/2008 9:50:43 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Bobkk47
I pray that Obama and Hillary do so much harm to one another, that the result is a virtual landslide for McCain.

While I have severe and abject issues with a number of McCain's policies (immigration, global warming, CFR, etc.), on those areas where we can expect him to take better positions (abortion, supreme court justices, taxes, the War against Islamic Jiahdists), I expect he will hold that ground where as with Obama or Hillary we would lose abjectly in all areas.

As a result, I hope that Obama's and Hillary's war against one another so splinters the democrats that whatever traction Barr gains (and it is almost sure to be relatively small) has no impact on the overall election, because the only impact it could have would be to throw it to Hillary or Obama. I cannot countenance the thought of the blood spilt in the war, and the blood letting over abortion, to have been in such abject vain if one of those two wins.

THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY

3 posted on 04/14/2008 9:55:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: nmh

He won’t siphon off many, and the ones he does weren’t going to vote Republican anyway.


4 posted on 04/14/2008 9:57:32 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Bobkk47
Ron Paul was a more appealing candidate, and he isn't running. I'll predict if Barr wins the nomination he wins fewer than the Libertarian candidate, whatzizname, won in 2004.

Barr won't even get on all 50 state ballots and will win nowhere near the 431,750 votes that Paul won in 1988.

5 posted on 04/14/2008 9:57:59 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Bobkk47

He wouldn’t siphon off any votes if Republicans had nominated an acceptably conservative candidate. They didn’t and that created an opening for a person like Bob Barr(with his 98 lifetime ACU rating) to try to slip through. McCain and the Rockefeller Republicans that nominated him are getting what they deserve.


6 posted on 04/14/2008 10:01:59 AM PDT by Cyclone Conservative
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To: Bobkk47

Bob Barr has the charisma of a potato.


7 posted on 04/14/2008 10:03:37 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head (Yahoo!)
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To: ontap

I am a long time Republican voter and I will strongly consider voting for Barr. I will strongly consider NOT voting for McCain.


8 posted on 04/14/2008 10:03:52 AM PDT by Cyclone Conservative
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To: Bobkk47

I really hope the LP nominates Wayne Allen Root instead of this hasbeen washed-up repugnican.


9 posted on 04/14/2008 10:07:45 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (We are busy winning hearts and minds while our islamfascist enemy is busy cutting throats and necks.)
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
Bob Barr has the charisma of a potato

Oh, I don't know ... the fellow on the right looks a bit more interesting.

10 posted on 04/14/2008 10:12:51 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: nmh

Say what you may about his chances, he was a true friend to 2A supporters.


11 posted on 04/14/2008 10:31:31 AM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
Bob Barr has the charisma of a potato.

Yeah, THAT'S what I think of when I think of John McCain: Charisma!

12 posted on 04/14/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Cyclone Conservative; ontap
I am a long time Republican voter and I will strongly consider voting for Barr. I will strongly consider NOT voting for McCain.

The midway carney freak show the Democrats are running this year is masking some very serious issues inside the GOP. Those issues are legitimate and one way or another they will have to be dealt with. Ontap, when many of us signed up to be Republicans it was not to support run away spending funded by massive debt and an intrusive surveillance state.

13 posted on 04/14/2008 10:43:30 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Bobkk47
I think that when voters find out that barr is on the board of the aclu he won't draw many supporters. The scum on the left will never accept him nor will the rest of America.
14 posted on 04/14/2008 11:12:01 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: correctthought

No LIBERALtarian is a friend of mine.


15 posted on 04/14/2008 11:27:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ontap

He won’t siphon off many, and the ones he does weren’t going to vote Republican anyway.

So you think Ron Paul like people will vote for McCain?

Barr will siphon off some Republicans - not Demoncrats. There are many quasi Republicans out there. We don’t need more of them. It’s a waste of time and money for this guy to run.


16 posted on 04/14/2008 11:29:19 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Poison Pill
Ontap, when many of us signed up to be Republicans it was not to support run away spending funded by massive debt and an intrusive surveillance state.

I've been rather pragmatic to long I guess. John McCain was not my first choice by a long shot and I am vehmently against some of the things he stands for but we have a choice of him or those other two idiots and he is still better than hem.

17 posted on 04/14/2008 12:22:06 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

hem=them


18 posted on 04/14/2008 12:22:51 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: nmh
Barr will siphon off some Republicans

Maybe a few,not many! He'll get the 1-3% libertarians always get. That's about it.

19 posted on 04/14/2008 12:28:10 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Bobkk47

Not a surge, but a retreat. Barr is a full steam drug warrior, hence fundamentally anti-libertarian.

The party is desperate for publicity, but to what end?


20 posted on 04/14/2008 12:44:12 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Bobkk47
Bob Barr is more qualified than the average libertarian Presidential candidate.

But what's that really saying?

If the libertarian candidate can count on somewhere around 400,000 votes and Bob Barr gets around 500,000 votes, it won't have much effect on the election.

He's got to lose the glasses and the little 'stache, though.

He looks like the dentists and pharmacists we knew as kids or Mr. Whipple or Floyd the Barber.


21 posted on 04/14/2008 1:32:16 PM PDT by x
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To: nmh

Who is to say that mccain and his polocies are entitled to anyone’s vote?think first amendment. Think mccain feingold CFR.


22 posted on 04/14/2008 1:52:29 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: nmh
No LIBERALtarian is a friend of mine.

Really? Take another look at the margin of victory for the last two presidential elections.

23 posted on 04/14/2008 2:44:03 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

Really? Take another look at the margin of victory for the last two presidential elections.

Yeah, LIBERALS posing as Republicans were elected.

I’m fed up with it.

YOU rationalize voting for LIBERALS. Leave me out of it.

Now I understand what Bush meant with “compassionate conservatism - BIGGER GOVERNMENT etc..


24 posted on 04/14/2008 3:13:27 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
YOU rationalize voting for LIBERALS. Leave me out of it. Now I understand what Bush meant with “compassionate conservatism - BIGGER GOVERNMENT etc..

Bigger government? Were talking about the Libertarian Party. Do you understand what a libertarian is?

25 posted on 04/14/2008 3:23:54 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Bobkk47

I don’t think Ron Paul could get 3 million votes in a general election.

I’ll be surprised if Bob Barr can come close to that.

If Bob Barr had any chance of getting anybody to vote for him, he could have run in the Republican primary. But of course, he’d be soundly rejected, because he’s not even as good as Ron Paul.


26 posted on 04/14/2008 5:59:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bobkk47
I have a buddy here at work that's just switched from being a democrat to being libertarian. He's always been very strongly progun and has even taken my ccw permit course. He also teaches (as I do) AP Government and Economics as well as history. Very bright guy. He says that Libertarians are on every state ballot.

The key is whether or not the powers that be will LET the Libertarian candidate into the general election debates and whether or not Barr (if he is the one) can raise enough money to be competitive on the ad campaigns. If he can do all that then he may very well get my vote. I've been an active lifelong republican and have volunteered in many campaigns in local, state and federal contests. But my republican party up and LEFT me as they were and still are heading in a leftward direction. If it appears that Barr is really competitive then he may have my vote. I may even volunteer for him.

27 posted on 04/21/2008 9:29:25 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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