Posted on 04/14/2008 1:21:03 PM PDT by NYer
It was reported yesterday that on April 6, Sen. Barack Obama made the following remarks about the white working-class: Its not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who arent like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
Catholic League president Bill Donohue wasnt amused:
Commentators are already saying that Obamas remarks are an attack on small town America. But they are more than that.
Just as words can be taken out of context, it is equally wrong to dismiss the context in which words are spoken. The forum Obama chose to make his remarks was a crowd of wealthy, left-leaning secularists in the most left-leaning, secular city in AmericaSan Francisco. In other words, it was a safe venue for him to speak condescendingly about those so-called small-minded Christians.
This is hardly the first time working-class Christians have been labeled parochial by elites who fancy themselves open minded. But for a serious candidate for the presidency to float this stereotype is despicable. Ironically, on the same day this story broke, Catholics learned that the Obama campaign had just announced the formation of the National Catholic Advisory Council. I have a suggestion for Obama: He can begin his outreach effort by apologizing to Christians for his insensitive remarks.
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...and it has nothing to do with traditional Christianity.
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Pandering to a secular progressive crowd that believes that religion is for ‘weak minded’ people.
Yeah, this is gonna cost him. Anyone still think he can ‘unite’ this country?
Owes Christians an explanation and an apology bigtime.
Good one!
(And a bttt for the energetic Mr. Donohue.)
Just id’d themselves as IDIOTS.
ood luck on getting arrogant Obama to apologize for anything he says. He is one scary dude as is his wife.
Anyone hear Oprah’s comments?
She’s a “free thinking Christian” who believes Jesus is one way to get to God, but there are also many other ways.
Sorry, you’re NO Christian if you think this, because Jesus Himself said He was the ONLY WAY.
Why would that be?
No apology wanted!!
He owes his resignation from public life, period.
Is Obama a christian? If so, why does he keep his muslim name?
The better term is sheeples ... baaaa.
As with Islam, it is a political movement disguised as a religion and acting like a cult.
He may end up making an apology, but it’ll be as honest and sincere as when the Arkansas Grifter said he did not have sex with Monica.
"Just as words can be taken out of context, it is equally wrong to dismiss the context in which words are spoken. The forum Obama chose to make his remarks was a crowd of wealthy, left-leaning secularists in the most left-leaning, secular city in AmericaSan Francisco. In other words, it was a safe venue for him to speak condescendingly about those so-called small-minded Christians."
No one has made this point better to date. Bill is the real deal in his print mode.
She’s all wrapped up in that German guy, Eckhart Tolle, who is preaching that quasi-far eastern/humanistic “The Power of Now”, stuff...and she is promoting him and his spiritual ideology big time.
Pssst—muzzies NEVER owe Christians apologies.
Go back to 2000 and see what McCain said about the Religious Right. Why do you think so many Christian Conservatives are opposed to him?
What did he say?
I heard him say that it’s OK to have religion, but when you become “exclusionary”, like saying “Jesus is the only way to God”,
then you’re “engaging in ideology” - he didn’t explain why this was bad.
Obama owes capitalists an apology. Implicit in his remark is that capitalism has failed and government needs to step in and clean up the mess. I’d feel better if some people got upset about that.Mp>
That a politician thinks voters are yokels is kind of a dog bites man story.
I don’t know why I’m so shocked by his statements (should have expected them), but I am. Anyone who understands what knowing Jesus is all about KNOW it sure isn’t about bitterness! Wow. Just wow.
Screw the apology...
An apology from that black racist &^*&^%*&%^ closet Muslim means NOTHING....
The Koran allows a Muslim to lie if need be to protect himself from Infidels or to advance Islam......
Making it impossible to believe ANYTHING a militant Islamist tells you.
Read it. Don’t agree with it all, but I’m not offended by it.
Let me be clear, let me be clear. Evangelical leaders are changing America for the better. Chuck Colson, head of the Prison Fellowship, is saving men from life...from a lifetime behind bars by bringing them the Good News of redemption. James Dobson, who does not support me, has devoted his life to rebuilding America's families. Others are leading the fight against pornography, cultural decline and for life. I stand with them. I am a pro-life, pro-family, fiscal conservative, an advocate of strong defense, and yet Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and a few Washington leaders of the pro-life movement call me an unacceptable presidential candidate. They distort my pro-life positions and smear the reputations of my supporters.
Why? Because I don't pander to them, because I don't ascribe to their failed philosophy that money is out message.
And you really don't see any difference betweeen Senator McCain and Barack Obama?
No, he doesn’t owe any apologies.
Let him speak his mind. At least it’s HIS truth coming out of him. It’s better than Clintonspeak, where you have to decipher what they REALLY mean...
he owe’s me nothing; he’s a hustler.
can’t believe I did that with an apostrophe...eek.
Oh, I definitely see a difference, but I still won’t vote for McCain. I will vote for a third party for President, then straight Republican below.
Thankfully, you’re in a distinct minority.
McCain is still going to need every vote he can get. He just won’t get mine.
Roger that!
We have one of our own in THIS neighborhood......
Proving once again that you don’t need to be intelligent to own a million dollar home!
Last Presidential election cycle - I had my Bush sign taken from my front yard....
I didn’t get mad — I got even.... WE ARE A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD...
I had a LARGE piece of bright white Styrofoam — on which I painted in glossy black: “A Kerry Nazi Stole my Bush sign”.
I placed this NEW sign in a position that the traffic on our lane could NOT avoid reading it....
I would leave my garage door open all hours that sign was in the yard so I could monitor the action — hoping I would have the opportunity to kick some DU’s ass, who attacked my sign.
At night - I would bring it in the garage.
Had lots of honks of appreciation, and several folks stopped by to have a beer and learn the background for my rather LARGE and CHALLENGING sign...
One lady in her nearly new Mercedes SUV — pulled up to my curb facing the wrong direction on our curvy lane — and started SHOUTING that Kerry supporters were not Nazis....
I calmly explained my sign addressed only the Kerry Nazi who STOLE my sign... This didn’t satisfy her... She wanted me to remove MY sign from MY yard...
I told her that NOW she WAS acting like a Nazi.....and that neither she, nor her husband nor the police could have me remove my sign.... THEN her profanity became really personal...
Now, I’m a former Marine and profanity is a legitimate form of communication - but it goes in both directions..
So I replied that perhaps she wasn’t a Nazi, but she just proved she was a “foul mouthed bitch”....
That REALLY offended her, and she stomped on the gas and tore away from the curb, jumped the curb at the curve, went up on the sidewalk and nearly went head on into a stone retaining wall my neighbor had recently rebuild from a previous accident... I was hoping she was going home to get her husband or significant other to come over and beat that old man’s ass with the insulting sign and insults...
Unfortunately — no one showed up....
Another lost opportunity to rearrange an idiot’s brain housing group..
Hillary and McCain are pathological liars. Obama is a racist. Hillary and McCain are unable to even answer simple questions. Obama has his Rev. Wright. Hillary will bring the Clinton political machine along with the Rapist back to the White House. McCain is uninformed, has mental issues, and is a nasty adulterer while Cindy is okay with having an affair with a married man with a sick wife. The list goes on.
Like you, I will be voting 3rd party unless a miracle happens and we will get a candidate who is normal and is concerned with the welfare of this country.
Read Tolle’s decription of his own experience. I believe he is suffering from a strong delusion and it an agent (knowingly or not) of those who want to water down christianity in particular, prepatory for getting many people on this earth to accept something entirely different that the Truth of God which was not imagined or created by any man or devil.
How is this different then Stalin's "Religion is the opiate of the masses"?
I'm just askin
There, fixed it. No charge.
As much as I respect Donohue, and can see his take about this, I think he is missing the point.
See the quote: Obama, speaking of some Pennsylvanians economic anxieties, told supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And its not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who arent like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
The key here has almost nothing to do with bitter, nor does it have to do with small town... the key is how this uniter and similar members of the intelligentsia look down on we the little people of this country, and our beliefs and values and political motivations! Unless you happen to be one of his elitist comrades or at a high rolling fundraiser, he considers you to be a seriously duped person if you dont agree with him. Whether its religion, guns, illegals, etc... its all looked at as being part of being lower class.
His looking down on we who happen to seriously care about our religion explains why he could simply ignore all that Wright was saying to begin with, too. It really didnt matter to him what was going on in the sermons. He was simply there for show to begin with, and to put in some face time to get known.
Even in his apology, he cant see that its the way he looks down on us that is the reason for the firestorm. Hes still standing by the sentiment - that sentiment has nothing to do with bitter but with how these elites look down upon us rubes.
Now, thanks to his own remarks, that we the little people have become seriously aware of how OBama is, elitist, out-of-touch, phony, and even unpatriotic. The fact that he “bared his soul” this way in front of a group of super-rich, super-libs who had supposedly been vetted and would never release these SECRET remarks is even more telling about how much of a Marxist, and elitist he is. Don’t forget that these honest thoughts of his were never supposed to be known by the general public, only by his Marxist supporters.
SnObama -— It can’t be said any better than that in seven letters.
SEMPER FI!
Semper Fi!
I didn’t notice that before — but I should have guessed.
Damn! Seems to be a lot of us here, huh?
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