Finding Pre-Clovis Humans in the Oregon High Desert

The Archaeology Channel ^ | Dennis jenkins

[shorty_harris]

Ugly? Death Valley is part of the Mojave, and it’s one of the most beautiful deserts around!

[semantic]

Death Valley is part of the Mojave, and it’s one of the most beautiful deserts around!

The exception proves the rule. DV is beautiful because of its extreme geography (11-14k foot verticality). The Mojave/GB lacks the flora/fauna of the Sonora (eg saguaro), the color of the Colorado, and the elevation of the Chihuahuan.

The worst roads trips in the US are the I-10 from Palm Springs to Phoenix, the I-80 from Reno to SLC, and the I-40 from LA to Vegas. I've done them all (on many different occasions); the Mojave is a colorless, lifeless, drab, boring & depressing desert.

[SunkenCiv]

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[norton]

After all these years I've never seen Death Valley.

But based on tons of other comparative data I'll take any Arizona desert to Cal/Nev desert.

Oops!
I just remembered Lake Havasu.

[ApplegateRanch]

“human DNA in coprolites”

So, were the humans the eaters or the eaten?

Hemorrhoids? Colon polyps/cancer? GI bleed? Ate somebody he disagreed with?

[glorgau]

The Great Basin used to be just that - a basin filled with water. Fort Rock is an enormous rock in the middle of nowhere that was eroded by water! The whole area used to be one big lake. The lakes have since evaporated.

I rode through the area during the 1996 Cycle Oregon.

[djf]

Discovery of human DNA in coprolites means one of two things:

Humans ate something and then took a dump or
the other way around!

Either way I guess that means humans were there.

[shorty_harris]

Oh well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I haven’t done the Reno to SLC trip, but have the others. It’s desolate, but I like it. I’m in Palmdale right now, but the only thing ugly about it is the cultural garbage that’s slopped over from LA.

[Cold Heart]

Fort Rock Basin, one of the best sage rat hunting areas in the state.

[Bernard Marx]

The worst roads trips in the US are the I-10 from Palm Springs to Phoenix, the I-80 from Reno to SLC, and the I-40 from LA to Vegas. I've done them all (on many different occasions); the Mojave is a colorless, lifeless, drab, boring & depressing desert.

That's some of my favorite country. Some eyes just can't "see." I like the Sonoran desert too.

[etcetera]

So some Clovis folks had the good sense to chose a common spot for a latrine on their way south. What’s the big deal?

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Renfield.

Archaeologist Talks About Oregon’s Early Natives
The World Link | 4-12-2004 | Daniel Schreiber
Posted on 04/13/2004 4:52:32 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117073/posts

Fossil Feces Push Back Earliest Date of Humans in Americas
Foxnews.com | April 04, 2008
Posted on 04/04/2008 7:47:46 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996674/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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