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Illegals bring tools to pass border fence
LA Daily News ^ | April 11, 2008 | Alicia A. Caldwell

Posted on 04/15/2008 9:57:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

COLUMBUS, N.M. - Illegal immigrants armed with torches, hacksaws, ladders and even bungee cords are making it around a section of the border fence hailed as the most efficient way to stop them.

In the 10 months since the section was put up, a tunnel is the only method federal agents haven't seen - "yet," added Victor Guzman, the supervisory Border Patrol agent responsible for the stretch of 15-foot, concrete-filled steel poles, planted close together and three feet into the ground.

Agents responsible for guarding that stretch of border almost immediately started seeing cuts in the fence.

The towering posts, gray and rust-color, are marked with bright-orange spray paint in areas believed to have been breached, Guzman said.

Guzman, who has worked in the area for nearly a decade, said agents have found holes cut with acetylene torches, hacksaws and even high-powered plasma torches, which use inert gas or condensed air to quickly cut through steel and other dense metals.

"We see it once or twice a week," Guzman said of the holes along the 1 1/2-mile stretch of fencing about 80 miles west of El Paso.

Officials monitoring cameras in the area have seen at least one group using a massive ladder to scale the south side of the fence.

Members of the group tried to drop into the U.S. with bungee cords before agents caught them.

But it's not just illegal immigrants worrying the Border Patrol.

The fence itself is starting to settle into the ground, and gaps between the posts are widening.

In one spot, an average-size woman could wedge herself through one of the gaps.

Border Patrol spokesman Joe Romero said the Columbus fencing, erected in June, was ordered before the congressional mandate to build 670 miles of pedestrian and vehicle fencing across the border with Mexico by the end of the year.

But its goal is the same: to add a layer of security in an otherwise open patch of desert.

Other sections of fencing along the border are being built with panels of woven steel instead of towering posts.

Detractors have long argued that the fence will do little to stop determined illegal immigrants and smugglers hoping to enter the United States.

Barry Morrissey, a Customs and Border Protection spokesman in Washington, did not immediately return a telephone message from The Associated Press on Friday.

Romero said the breaches are no surprise.

"What we're talking about is our fences are designed to deter people, discourage them from coming in," Romero said. "Combined with the rest of the infrastructure, it's supposed to buy us more time to make an arrest.

"Even an extra five seconds helps. The goal is, at the very least, it buys us extra time."

Repairing fences is old hat for agents in the Border Patrol's El Paso sector, which includes the two westernmost Texas counties and all of New Mexico.

In the city of El Paso, a team is assigned to patrol a stretch of more than a dozen miles of fencing, looking for and welding holes.

The agents assigned to the team often repair the same sections of fencing daily.

Agents in Arizona and California, where fencing has also been in place for more than a decade, have in the past done the same thing.

In some of those areas contractors now help with the daily fixes.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderpatrol; fence; immigration; mexico; newmexico
Illegal immigrants armed with torches, hacksaws, ladders and even bungee cords are making it around a section of the border fence hailed as the most efficient way to stop them. _____________________________________________

But I thought the illegal aliens were all harmless farmers...

1 posted on 04/15/2008 9:57:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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PING


2 posted on 04/15/2008 9:57:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

If we could just start picking them off (just the ones trying to damage the fence) word would get around and this would really cut down on the attempts. Take the bodies and hang them on pikes on the top of the fence as a warning to anyone else thinking about doing the same thing.


3 posted on 04/15/2008 9:59:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Borders, walls, and fences are only as good as the leaders and personnel willing to defend them.


4 posted on 04/15/2008 10:00:56 PM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be brave from a distance.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Like rats chewing a hole into your home.


5 posted on 04/15/2008 10:03:38 PM PDT by MaxMax (It's not the politics I despise, It's the politicians for being so stupid..)
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To: Secret Agent Man
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6 posted on 04/15/2008 10:11:52 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: MaxMax
Ralph Waldo Emerson is credited with the oft-quoted remark in favor of innovation: "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door", ...

Welcome to Mousetrap-ville.

7 posted on 04/15/2008 10:15:01 PM PDT by budwiesest (The Dems couldn't have picked two worse candidates if they tried.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

They’re just cutting the fences that Chertoff and co. won’t build ...


8 posted on 04/15/2008 10:23:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: BGHater
Borders, walls, and fences are only as good as the leaders and personnel willing to defend them.

And the same is true for constitutions.

9 posted on 04/15/2008 10:24:39 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: Secret Agent Man

I would be all for that. I have previously proposed a bounty on illegal foreign invaders. Maybe $1000/head. Turn loose the free enterprise system. Once word gets out, problem solved.


10 posted on 04/15/2008 11:01:39 PM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Israeli fence works because you will get shot at for trying to break through the fence. Since we are too cowardly to shoot these criminals we do have a problem

Mexican are laughing at us and you can thank Jorge Bush and the other hacks in DC. They are laughing too


11 posted on 04/15/2008 11:38:55 PM PDT by dennisw (Superior attitude. Superior state of mind --- Steven Segal)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The Israeli fence is better because you can see through it. You see the criminals trying to compromise your fence and start firing at them. Make a double layer fence. Include barb wire pyramids and patrol road and it's lot cheaper than what we are doing

When a fence is solid metal you can see the Mexicans cutting through it until they knock out the piece

12 posted on 04/15/2008 11:46:24 PM PDT by dennisw (Superior attitude. Superior state of mind --- Steven Segal)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Install a couple of non-polluting, ecologically friendly wind turbines and ELECTRIFY the fence.


13 posted on 04/15/2008 11:50:44 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: Tennessee Nana; All
*_Mexico_**_ _**_Drops Out Of 2008 Summer Olympics_*

President Felipe Calderon of Mexico has announced that Mexico will not participate in the Beijing Summer Olympics.

He stated:
"Casi cada uno que puede funcionar, saltar, o nadar ya ha salidodel pais."

Translation:
"Pretty much everyone who can run, jump, or swim has already left the country."

14 posted on 04/16/2008 12:18:48 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Tennessee Nana

Those who make it through should be able to get jobs as welders with this on their resume.

They even have their own tools.


15 posted on 04/16/2008 3:14:12 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I thought illegal aliens were all harmless farmers...

Yeah, they "jest come here for a better life---to take jobs Americans won't do---flipping hamburgers and picking lettuce."

The payoff in US govt benefits must be even greater than we think it is (/sarc)---considering the extreme ways they employ to get in here.

Multiple identities and numerous SS nos can get them on several US gravy trains simultaneously.......,multiple EITC refunds, welfare checks, food stamps (which they sell), UI and disability checks. Plus several ADD checks for each kid using different names.

Course the big payoff is income from drug-running for Columbian drug lords.

16 posted on 04/16/2008 3:31:56 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Electrify the fence!!! Oh wait. I forgot. We can’t harm those who have no respect for our laws, refuse to assimilate to our culture or seek to destroy the U.S. We must be politically correct!!!


17 posted on 04/16/2008 3:47:48 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: dennisw
Duncan Hunter built this type of fence in San Diego. It took him years to get it done because of the massive red tape. His bill to extend it all across the southern border was gutted. After he quit the POTUS race, he went right back to work and reintroduced it. Hunter is the man who has this singular achievement on his resume and the conservative movement ignored him. Shame for all of us.
18 posted on 04/16/2008 4:04:42 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: BGHater
Borders, walls, and fences are only as good as the leaders and personnel willing to defend them.


19 posted on 04/16/2008 4:20:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

bttt


20 posted on 04/16/2008 5:10:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Tennessee Nana
This is the only one way to deal with the problem of illegals breaking into our country.
21 posted on 04/16/2008 5:22:23 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Marine Snipers.)
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To: ishabibble
Duncan Hunter built this type of fence in San Diego. It took him years to get it done because of the massive red tape. His bill to extend it all across the southern border was gutted. After he quit the POTUS race, he went right back to work and reintroduced it. Hunter is the man who has this singular achievement on his resume and the conservative movement ignored him. Shame for all of us.

But, but, Rush and Sean told us mitt romney was the only conservative in the race.

22 posted on 04/16/2008 5:24:40 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Never trust one who is a legend in his or her own mind.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Why just the ones trying to damage the fence?


23 posted on 04/16/2008 5:26:18 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (How do I get one of the $50 an hour lettuce picking jobs mccain talked about?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

How expensive is .308?


24 posted on 04/16/2008 8:51:31 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The only way to stop them (illegal entries) is to put true American patriots in government. Too bad, people. We missed our chances - in fact we’ve been missing our chances the last five general elections, and a number of them before that, back to Woodrow Wilson.


25 posted on 04/16/2008 10:01:47 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: deuteronlmy232

Because they ARE the ones damaging the fence.


26 posted on 04/16/2008 5:27:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: deuteronlmy232

Those two geniuses are mostly good at lining their own pockets.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 9:18:40 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: dennisw

Good construction. And it looks quite more doable than metal/concrete wall.


28 posted on 04/17/2008 9:20:09 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: dennisw

Where’s the “brown noise” generator?


29 posted on 04/17/2008 9:21:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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Ping!

Older story, new source...


30 posted on 04/17/2008 12:23:58 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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