Posted on 04/16/2008 7:45:33 AM PDT by PurpleMan
"... an intriguing sliver of his family history has received almost no attention until now: It appears that forebears of his white mother owned slaves, according to genealogical research and census records.
According to the research, one of Obama's great-great-great-great grandfathers, George Washington Overall, owned two slaves who were recorded in the 1850 census in Nelson County, Ky. The same records show that one of Obama's great-great-great-great-great-grandmothers, Mary Duvall, also owned two slaves.'
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Does that mean Obama will pay himself reparations?
LOL

At some point in human history, ALL of us have ancestors who have owned slaves. All of us have ancestors that have BEEN slaves. IMHO, it is time that we all just GET OVER IT.
I would not be surprised if some in his family still do own slaves.
His black Kenyan muslim ancestors were undoubtly slave traders.
The muslims captured the blacks and sold them to europeans.
I truly don’t care... but why do I suspect a Hillary cohort dropped this particular dime?
I bet that his BLACK ancestors in Africa also owned slaves.
Whether you're on the giving or receiving end of repartions, Obama's your man!
True, but if the libs go nuts over news like this, then why should we not use it against them? Maybe if they get a taste of their own medicine they will eventually figure out that they’ve been idiots to obsess over this nonsense from the beginning.
Kenyan moslems more likely sold them to Arabs who castrated all black men to make sure they didn’t propogate.
Re# 9 They still do. Just new buyers, Europeans having left the market...
I am breathlessly waiting for the the Trib to report on his father’s side...did they own/sell slaves over in Africa?
They could probably just go to the Hall of Records in those Kenyan villages....prolly all on microfiche too!
I, for one, am never against giving the libs a taste of their own medicine.
I’m sure that cousin Odinga has several
This is really no big deal.
Slavery was simply a fact of life in this country until about 150 years ago. Many or most families who have been here for a long time participated in the practice.
Mine did. My family probably “owned” the ancestors of some of my good friends. That is history.
Doesn’t make it right, and reality is often hard to accept. But it should have absolutely no bearing on the Presidential race.
If Obama wants to be angry at a Caucasian, I nominate his nutcase mother who produced him, then abandoned him, and apparently left him with a purulent angst.
And my great-great-great-great-great-grandmother poured pig droppings over a member of the media. That’s how I got to be the way I am. (hateful of the media).
This is meaningless. The only thing it means is that the media types are digging in the candidates’ past, and going back farther and farther hoping to dig up something bad.
“with a purulent angst” — nice phrase.
Anyhow, in my way of thinking, if anyone ever brings up reparations in my precense I will let them know that reparations were paid in full 143 years ago with the death of 360,000 white men who died to, among other things, free the slaves. Another 275,000 were wounded, many terribly.
No one has offered, and no one has asked for reparations for the lives of those men. It would stain their sacrifice...just as this foolish talk stains it.
I see Hillary’s people have been hard at work.
My question would be, did his black forebears SELL slaves? Many people don’t realize (or else they’d rather not think about it) that many Africans were quite busy in the slave trade, selling off members of rival tribes to any buyers.
“At some point in human history, ALL of us have ancestors who have owned slaves. All of us have ancestors that have BEEN slaves. IMHO, it is time that we all just GET OVER IT.”
Thank you!
“I bet that his BLACK ancestors in Africa also owned slaves.”
As noted upthread, this is almost certainly true.
The muslims in Africa -— from whom Barack Hussein Obama descends and considers his true family -— were the originators of the slave trade.
Saw that but the article was posted in today’s paper. Evidently it ran in the BaltSun before but thought they were reprinting it.
So then, why has the MSM?Clinton campaign bringing up this report? Ya think it would be relevant?
I don’t really care what someone’s grandfather did. What their parents did might be relevant, if it was part of their childhood training, but other than that, I could give a big brown rat’s ass.
BTW, my parents, God rest their souls, were sappy liberals from Chicago’s intellectual elite. My aunt toyed with 1930’s communism. They probably had their reasons, however misguided they were. But none of that has any impact on me.
Like others have said: “its all in the past, get over it.”
But it IS a big deal. How much you wanna bet this bozo is for reparations? He could use this as a conduit of self-loathing say “Even my ancesters were bad. See everybody is guilty. We all should pay.”
My question then becomes which ethnic group get reparations and which ones don’t and why? Blacks - Yes? Poles - No? Native Americans - Yes? Irsh - No?
What would be the rationale?
The MSM is in love with this man, like a new puppy.
Who was he married to, Lacey Underall?
Obama owes me reparations.
His way would be to take $1000 from you in “reparation taxes” and give you back $10.
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=746
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CONTRARIAN COMMENTARY FOR MARCH 4, 2007
MASSA OBAMA NOT SURPRISED HIS FAMILY OWNED SLAVES
FROM BILL CLINTONS I SHARE YOUR PAIN TO BARACK OBAMAS YOU SHARE MY SHAME.
FROM THE DEMOCRATS MARCH TO MONTGOMERY (1965) TO THE DEMOCRATS MARCH TO HYPOCRISY (2007)
CLINTON WONT APOLOGIZE FOR HER IRAQ VOTE; OBAMA WONT APOLOGIZE FOR HIS FAMILYS OWNERSHIP OF SLAVES
AND—MORE LIES FROM THE O-MAN AS THE MYTH OF DADDY PERSISTS
OBAMA CONTINUES TO SPIN A FICTITIOUS AND FARCICAL FAMILY HISTORY.
(CHICAGO)(March 4, 2007) Barack Obama, whose white Confederate Army ancestors owned slaves, will not apologize for that family history. Thats no surprise, Obama said, suggesting he knew he came from a slave-owning past. Instead of saying it was a tragic burden for him, he sought to swaddle himself in collective guilt by saying Thats part of our tortured tangled, history. Wrong.
Mr. Obama, my family did not own slaves. Yours did. Most Americans have no family links to slavery. Yours does. Yours, not ours.
Bill Clinton wanted to share our pain. You want us to share your shame. No thanks. Speak for yourself, Barry. Thats part of your incredibly tortured family history, and your own tortured psyche, not ours.
Amazingly, it took the exposure of his slave-owning family history for Obama to even acknowledge that half of his family history came from white racists who waged war against the United States.
And Obama wants African-Americans to support his candidacy? His ancestors sought to continue enslaving legitimate African-Americans. Massa Obama. You are the living embodiment of chutzpah. Just ask your friends at AIPAC what that means.
Truly, what part of Obama is African-American? His Kenyan fathers part, coming from the drunken polygamist that he continues to romanticize, or his white relatives slave ownership? Its enough to make Hillarys mouth water. And most people vomit.
Obamas imagination and prevarication was in overdrive Sunday in Selma, where he now credits the civil rights movement for his sleazy fathers arrival in the United States and bigamous seduction of an innocent and very gullible 18 year-old woman. Obama was quoted as saying his father left goat-herding in Kenyawith a wife and childto come to America where he impregnated his Kansan wife in Hawaii. It is truly sad the way Obama romanticizes the rascal and racial predator who was his father.
If only Barry would read his own book he would find out that he is lying about his goat-herding father. Barry senior came from a prosperous and educated family; he came to America to get out of Kenya during the war of independence after his links to the murderous Mau Mau led to his arrest. He left behind a wife and child in Kenya, and then took Obamas mother as a wife in Hawaii before abandoning mother and child and running off to Harvard, where he met his eventual third wife and sired the third of his four families. Whew.
Because of racism, most Americans know little of the African-American community in our midst. African-Americans as a group are socially conservative, church-going people. They are family people. Why would they want someone who covers-up a family history of polygamy and alcoholism, and who cant deal with the reality of his slave-owning family history, to be their leader? Beats me.
Especially when Hillary Clinton was hoopin and hollerin like a holy roller on Sunday. All she was missing was a snake and maybe a little talking in tongues. Come to think of it
Maybe Obama really needs Clinton after all. Bill could share his pain. It must be painful to run away from the truth, and try to confuse and ultimately lie to the American people and hope to get away with it.
Barry Obama is a decent human being. He was victimized by his mother, who created a completely false fantasyland portrait of the father who abandoned him, and he was victimized by his own family history when he discovered he had been sired by a womanizing, alcoholic polygamist and racial huckster. And he was victimized when he learned the people who really raised him, his grandparents, came from a slave-owning clan in the south. Thats a trifecta of shame. Yours, not ours.
The Democrats took the March to Montgomery of 1965 and converted the event into a March to Hypocrisy in 2007. Walking alongside Bill Clinton in Selma was Al Sharpton. Is Sharpton really that essential to the Clinton effort to retain Black political support? Apparently so. I for one would not be comfortable with Al Sharpton in the White House. Of course maybe the Clintons should remember what happened to the last prominent political figure that had Sharpton at his side: Ned Lamont lost a cant lose race for U. S. Senate after Sharpton appeared at his primary election victory celebration.
Recently I was attacked by a pro-Obama, tax-exempt left-wing smear machine that has been set up by the Democrats to attack conservatives (more on that later in the week). Yes, Democrats too use taxpayer-supported smear organizations to attack Republicans. They must be afraid of Andy Martin if they have been digging up dirt to throw at me. They cant face the truth. But they have a problem. My facts about Obama will stand up, and their smears against me wont.
The reality is that Barack Obama is all surface and no substance. He has lived his entire life in a fantasy world. He cant accept who he is and where he comes from, so he keeps running away from the truth. Im not against him because his Black father was a polygamist or because his White relatives were slave holders. Obviously, we dont pick our relatives. It would be unfair to attack him on that basis.
I am critical of Obama because he continues to lie about his relatives and, when confronted with the truth, unleashes his left-wing smear machine to defend him by making personal attacks on legitimate conservative journalism. If Obama would only admit who is father was, and apologize for lying and living in a delusional world for 46 years, I would respect him more. If he would just admit that his white relatives were slave owners, and he is embarrassed by the fact, I would respect him more. I cant respect him for lying. Thats the basis of my opposition.
I do not see how we can seriously consider placing someone in the oval office that lives in a dream world and who cannot even deal with the reality of his family history. And, no, I do not believe the American people want to share his shame any more than they believed Bill Clinton was sharing our pain. Most of us did not have relatives who owned slaves and we have no reason to apologize. I cant see how African-Americans would vote for a man for president whose ancestors had enslaved them. But then wonders never cease.
Finally, Obama is the obvious beneficiary of affirmative action by the news media. They have not reported the truth about his family history. There has been a conscious cover-up to keep him viable as a candidate. Obama profits from a media cover-up that enables him to keep living a lie and selling a lie to the American people. What would happen if a newspaper discovered slave ownership in Hillary Clintons family history? You got it.
Hillary, apologize for your Iraq vote; Barry, tell the truth about your ancestors. Instead of saying let the conversation begin, why not say, both of you, Let the truth-telling begin? We have been living a lie. Lets start telling the truth.
True, anyone that makes anything of this is full of it. Mccains family were cotton plantation slave owners.
It's a pretty safe bet to put money on the fact that his African ancestors owned slaves too.
Those who dwell on American slavery in the 18th and 19th Centuries act as if slavery were a Western Civilization invention when, in fact, slavery existed in Africa since the dawn of History and still exists in Africa to this day.
What is a Western Civilization invention is Abolition.
I think he already admitted that several months ago.
Your exactly right or that some of the ancestors from his African muslin side actually sold slaves which ended up in America....
And if he looked into his African heritage, he is very likely to learn that many of his forbears owned and sold slaves as well.
George Washington Overall — Typical white great-great-great-great grandfather?
all the taxpayers are slaves
bump
Just more typical bitter white folk who are scared of black people and sleep with their guns.
Obama’s kin owned slaves?....
Good luck with that Mr. Hope and Change!.....
This was posted before. It’s not the fault of nobama’s mother that her ancestors owned slave, a lot of Negros owned slaves at that time too. Slavery was a part of this country’s history, it has been over for a couple plus hundred years. Yee Gads, we stole this country from the people who were here first, anyone crying about that and we slaughtered them left an right. AND that was a few hundred years ago too. Drop it. History is History and we should learn from it, not continually harp about it.
Question is - will Hussein apologize to himself?
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