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Capitalist Buzz Surrounds Stoner 'Holiday'
MSNBC ^ | 4-16-2008 | Mike Stuckey

Posted on 04/16/2008 7:54:40 AM PDT by jmc813

A once clandestine counterculture pot-smoking “holiday” observed each April 20 has crossed into the mainstream this year with public gatherings that will attract thousands of participants and marketing campaigns that tout a trio of marijuana-themed movies.

As anti-drug activists chafe, the so-called “420” (pronounced “four-twenty”) celebrations “are taking on a life of their own,” said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws, who has been working on marijuana issues for 17 years.

St. Pierre, who thought the phenomenon was peaking about 10 years ago, has instead watched it continue to grow, thanks to the commercial efforts and “a remarkable cultural push for something that is not owned by anything, that nobody profits from per se.” It is now “highly institutionalized,” he said, ticking off dozens of events tied to the date, many organized by NORML’s 140 chapters across the nation. He said he expects to do as many as 75 media interviews this year on April 20.

While there are lots of legends on the Internet and elsewhere about the origins of “420,” “4:20” and “4/20” as terms for both marijuana itself and indulging in it, the most widely accepted is that the label came from students at a Marin County, Calif., high school in the early 1970s. The young stoners reportedly would meet after classes let out, at 4:20 p.m., to share their drugs in an era when the activity was less tolerated by society – and the legal system.

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1 posted on 04/16/2008 7:54:40 AM PDT by jmc813
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“It’s tragic for our country,” Dr. Bertha Madras, deputy director of demand reduction in the White House drug office, said in an interview with msnbc.com. “It is a tragedy that this is a media circus event and it does not take into account what I have seen in treatment centers, what I have seen in weeping parents who have asked me for help with their children.”

What hyperbolic nonsense.

2 posted on 04/16/2008 7:57:23 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: jmc813

When I saw the headline, I thought maybe someone wanted to create a holiday to honor Eugene Stoner... ;)


3 posted on 04/16/2008 7:57:37 AM PDT by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: rhombus
What hyperbolic nonsense.

I'm a little surprised she didn't start going on about white women listening to jazz and sleeping with black people. Who the heck names their kid "Bertha" anyway?

4 posted on 04/16/2008 8:00:45 AM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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It won’t be long before some nanny-Gov type on this thread starts making the pot = cocaine = heroine = hell in a hand basket argument. Wait and see.


5 posted on 04/16/2008 8:04:09 AM PDT by rhombus
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Who the heck names their kid "Bertha" anyway?

The parents of the "Butt Sisters"?

6 posted on 04/16/2008 8:04:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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“I’m a little surprised she didn’t start going on about white women listening to jazz and sleeping with black people.”

LOL!


7 posted on 04/16/2008 8:06:58 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: rhombus

Well crap, I was hoping this was going to be a holiday to celebrate the life and work of Eugene Stoner.

Not a bunch of drug addled fools and fried pies.


8 posted on 04/16/2008 8:07:00 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: msg-84

That would be ApRil 15, no?


9 posted on 04/16/2008 8:07:48 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: jmc813

Of all of the days of the year, the stoners had to pick Hitler’s birthday.


10 posted on 04/16/2008 8:08:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Hey, start your own holiday.


11 posted on 04/16/2008 8:09:23 AM PDT by rhombus
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pot = cocaine = heroine = hell in a hand basket

You just don't get it!

(pot x cocaine (heroine + meth) squared) / 'shrooms = hell in a hand basket.

pay attention in class

12 posted on 04/16/2008 8:09:23 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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You mean it’s much stronger than the stuff from the 60’s. ;-)


13 posted on 04/16/2008 8:10:07 AM PDT by rhombus
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I have been known to celebrate the work of Eugene Stoner in a private way.

One 20 round magazine at a time.

14 posted on 04/16/2008 8:14:49 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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You mean it’s much stronger than the stuff from the 60’s. ;-)

not sure but more expensive...

15 posted on 04/16/2008 8:15:04 AM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: jmc813
the most widely accepted is that the label came from students at a Marin County, Calif., high school in the early 1970s. The young stoners reportedly would meet after classes let out, at 4:20 p.m., to share their drugs in an era when the activity was less tolerated by society – and the legal system.

LESS tolerated? In the '70s?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can remember kids sitting in parking lots on main street firing up doobies and the cops going by and keeping right on going.

I don't think it was tolerated less in the '70s.

16 posted on 04/16/2008 8:15:06 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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I don’t smoke pot; never have; never will.

Don’t particulay like what pot does to people; had a brilliant roomate in college who smoked pot constantly (and listend to Little Feat, ug) who flunked out of MIT and now re-builds cars for a “living” -— lives at home at 44, never married, no prospects.

That said, I don’t care what people do to themselves.

Pot and all drugs should be legal.

Idiots will do what they do.


17 posted on 04/16/2008 8:15:10 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: jmc813

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/woody-harrelson/

But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.
— Bob Dylan


18 posted on 04/16/2008 8:26:32 AM PDT by tumblindice (Woodhead Harrelson)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Well fine for you. I know plenty of people who never smoked pot and never will. I had a roommate once who didn’t smoke anything. He stared at sports all day on television, then finally joined a religious commune... goes there full time now and just sits, no prospects. Idiots will do what they do. ;-)


19 posted on 04/16/2008 8:27:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Why not? Make it whatever you want it to be about and go burn up a few hundred rounds.


20 posted on 04/16/2008 8:32:13 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Vote McCain - The Choice who Sucks Less!)
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