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Alan Keyes: Not Again
Outside The Wire ^ | Bob Parks

Posted on 04/16/2008 7:56:26 AM PDT by bocopar

So Alan Keyes has announced he’s leaving the Republican Party. Over the last few months, I’ve received numerous emails and comments from those hoping that Keyes would enter the presidential race in some capacity: either as a candidate for the top spot, or that one of those running would select him for veep.

Many of those people believe he has the conservative credentials to codify a fractured Republican voting block.

I beg to differ.

This morning, I received the following press release from a publicist…

ALAN KEYES LEAVES REPUBLICAN PARTY Will the Republican Party Go the Way of the Whigs?

Is history about to repeat itself?

(Excerpt) Read more at intelradionetwork.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alankeyes; keyes
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1 posted on 04/16/2008 7:56:26 AM PDT by bocopar
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To: bocopar

IF Keyes could get over himself, he could probably do the conservative movement some good. But he’s too bombastic and too narcissistic to be effective.


2 posted on 04/16/2008 7:59:22 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: bocopar

How many times must this clown leave? If he re-joins, and leaves again, do we have to notice that also?


3 posted on 04/16/2008 7:59:54 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

He’s a media addict. Needs to have the cameras focused on him every so often.


4 posted on 04/16/2008 8:03:34 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: bocopar

Why do so many JUMP THE SHARK as they get older and realize that their days of fame and relevance are waning?

The list of those who grow old with grace is just so short... Bob Hope, Billy Graham, Ronald Reagan, even Bush 41...


5 posted on 04/16/2008 8:05:24 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: bocopar
"Alan Keyes’ sorry excuse for a campaign gave us a Barack Obama, perilously close to becoming the next Commander-in-Chief. His egomaniacal quest for attention could potentially produce a President Obama, should Keyes successfully pull a Perot and split the conservative vote."

I think I would genuinely like Alan. I'm happy to have been in the audience of one of his speeches and he held the crowd in rapt attention.

But sadly I agree with everything you've said

6 posted on 04/16/2008 8:05:44 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: theDentist

He’s lucky to get a minicam these days.

I’d say he was the Harold Stassen of today, but that would insult Stassen who had a lengthy and significant career that is overlooked these days due to his laughable quadrennial runs for President.


7 posted on 04/16/2008 8:06:12 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: theDentist

It would be hilarious if he actually failed to get the CP nomination. Then, he could leave THAT party also and talk about how they betrayed their principles. He could finally be a party of one.


8 posted on 04/16/2008 8:08:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: bocopar

This is the same Alan Keyes who did such a lousy job of campaigning in Illinois that we now have someone named “Hussein” in the U.S. Senate?

Who cares WTF he does.


9 posted on 04/16/2008 8:09:59 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: bocopar

Alan Keyes is as nutty as Jeremiah Wright. Both men like to blame white Republicans for their shortcomings.


10 posted on 04/16/2008 8:10:34 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: ConservativeDude

You know, I like the guy. Good speaker, does his research, great debates etc. But like you say, his sudden rebuffs of the Party and incessant need to be the center of all focus tends to be his fatal flaw. After a time, you can’t help but say “Fine. Go away.”


11 posted on 04/16/2008 8:11:13 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: bocopar
Adlai Stevenson, Harold Stassen, Ralph Nadir (Oh, excuse me, Nader), Al “Big Fat Bore” Gore, Alan Keyes.

The pantheon of guys who don't know when to quit and just quietly fade away.

12 posted on 04/16/2008 8:14:25 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: bocopar

I was expecting him to say the republican party left him...


13 posted on 04/16/2008 8:17:26 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: bocopar

An article from a place that advertises “Wright is Right” gear does not inspire confidence in the material. Keyes will simply give those of us who intended to write in a candidate someone for whom to vote.


14 posted on 04/16/2008 8:18:57 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: bocopar

While I don’t necessarily think Keys would be a good candidate, I do agree that the GOP is headed the way of the Whigs unless something drastic happens.


15 posted on 04/16/2008 8:29:05 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: theDentist
I would like to put him and McCain in the same room with a TV camera from a major network. They would probably beat each other to death trying to get in front of the thing and then we could nominate a true conservative after the funeral.
16 posted on 04/16/2008 8:32:22 AM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: bocopar

Keyes ius the only complete, comprehensive conervative running. He’s brilliant and articulate. He would be a terrific President.


17 posted on 04/16/2008 8:35:47 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Jedidah
True... If a candidate is NOT mealy mouthed shying away from bombastic words like SOCIALIST,, he hasn't a chance as a republican.. To be a successful republican candidate YOU MUST overlook words like traitor, espionage, enemy, Marxist, Antonio Gramsci, and fake, shill, phony, posse, Trojan Horse, and some other hyperbolic memes..

America is indeed in a hyperbolic situation where non conservatives have chosen the republican candidate.. and also the democrat candidates..

The truth is to express a hyperbolic situation you MUST USE hyperbolic terms.. ELSE you are spreading disinformation and LIES.. like all three current candidates..

Alan Keyes speaks the truth.. Albeit as a "preacher"...
All three candidates are "PREACHING" something.. as is every post on this thread.. To be against Keyes "FOR PREACHING" is a bit disunion's.. Little wonder the republican party is an oblivious.. eye rolling drooling lot.. When what the republican party NEEDS IS A PREACHER...

The republicans WILL GET A PREACHER alright..
Obama or the Hildebeast.. John McLaim is a boring DRONE..
My NEXT screed will be against those against Ron Paul..
He also IS A PREACHER..

18 posted on 04/16/2008 8:36:06 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: ConservativeDude
How many times must this clown leave?

This is the first time.

19 posted on 04/16/2008 8:36:25 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude
How many times must this clown leave?

This is the first time.

20 posted on 04/16/2008 8:38:08 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude
How many times must this clown leave?

This is the first time.

21 posted on 04/16/2008 8:38:08 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude
How many times must this clown leave?

This is the first time.

22 posted on 04/16/2008 8:38:09 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude
It would be hilarious if he actually failed to get the CP nomination. Then, he could leave THAT party also and talk about how they betrayed their principles. He could finally be a party of one.

I don't think that is going to happen. He seems to be in for the long haul. Dr. Keyes realizes the need to build a real conservative party in this country.

What I can't understand is all teh animosity towards Keyes on this site. he is one of the most articulate, prncipled, intelligent conservative leaders we have today. You may or may not support him for Presidnet, but this constant trashign of him speaks ill of my fellow FReepers.

23 posted on 04/16/2008 8:41:38 AM PDT by TBP
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To: bocopar

Keyes is a far cry ahead of the other acts playing, and he will get my support, along with other conservatives, be they Republicans, independents, Constitutional Party, Libertarians or Democrats.


24 posted on 04/16/2008 8:53:52 AM PDT by pallis
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To: bocopar

Don Quixote lives!


25 posted on 04/16/2008 8:54:07 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: TBP
I would support Alan Keyes before any of the current crop of other Republicans. He is a good man and could be a great one. This is the black man that America should consider _way_ before Obama the communist, Islam is your friend guy...
26 posted on 04/16/2008 8:58:58 AM PDT by veracious
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To: TBP
Keyes ius the only complete, comprehensive conervative running. He’s brilliant and articulate. He would be a terrific President.

Except for the fact that he's insane, you're right. And I voted for him in the '96 primary.

27 posted on 04/16/2008 9:00:01 AM PDT by Gurn (Remember Mountain Meadows.)
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To: veracious

This could get VERY interesting, with Keye and Barr from the right and Nader and McKinney from the left.


28 posted on 04/16/2008 9:06:33 AM PDT by TBP
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To: pallis
Republicans, independents, Constitutional Party, Libertarians or Democrats.

Or Greens, Reform, Independence, Peace and Freedom, whatever.

BTW, it's the Constitution Party,. not Constitutional, but the point remains valid.

29 posted on 04/16/2008 9:09:19 AM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

BTW, it’s the Constitution Party,. not Constitutional, but the point remains valid.

Thanks for the correction. I don’t expect to see conservatives running in the Green Party.


30 posted on 04/16/2008 9:14:53 AM PDT by pallis
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Not sure why so many people are angry at Keyes.

The Party has already clearly left us. Many of us are gradually leaving the Party now.


31 posted on 04/16/2008 9:27:30 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Tex Pete
Not sure why so many people are angry at Keyes.

Then let me explain it to you.

In 2000, he rightfully condemned Hillary Clinton for carpetbagging in New York.

In 2004, he carpetbagged in Illinois.

He lost all credibility in terms of integrity and yet he still tries to climb on that high horse and preach about his purity to others.

32 posted on 04/16/2008 9:31:10 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: hosepipe

Chill OUT.

Look, you may like listening to Alan Keyes, and you may agree with everything he says, but he has a snowball’s chance in hell of getting elected.

You can stand on principle all year long, while the rest of us work to rescue the country from the disaster of an Obama presidency.

I will support a candidate who is electable. Keyes is NOT.

Actually, his rhetoric is mild compared to yours. Go take a nap, please.


33 posted on 04/16/2008 9:31:15 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“He lost all credibility in terms of integrity and yet he still tries to climb on that high horse and preach about his purity to others.”

What does it matter? Who even pays attention to him?

My point was really less about Alan Keyes than the GOP. Both of them are shells of their former selves.


34 posted on 04/16/2008 9:33:08 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: bocopar
I love Alan, but he pretty well sunk himself with his track record of repeated electoral defeats (annihilations, really) and his remarks about favoring reparations for slavery.

He's a great orator, a clear thinker, an intelligent gentleman, and a horrendous politician. Sadly, the later is a killer.
35 posted on 04/16/2008 9:34:09 AM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: TBP

It’s probably because he’s a bit of a nag.


36 posted on 04/16/2008 9:34:40 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can't take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: Tex Pete

Ditto.

I leave the GOP after the primary next Tuesday. Keyes will get my vote next week and in November.


37 posted on 04/16/2008 9:35:44 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: avg_freeper

Actually, it’s not really fair to blame Keyes for Obama. If Keyes hadn’t run, NOBODY would have been running. It’s really the fault of the Michigan Republican party for not being able to find a reasonable candidate.


38 posted on 04/16/2008 9:37:35 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bocopar

Sure have to love the delusions of granduer from Alan Keyes


39 posted on 04/16/2008 9:44:03 AM PDT by scarface367 (Why are protectionists so stupid when it comes to economics?)
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To: Jedidah
[ I will support a candidate who is electable. Keyes is NOT. ]

NO republican is electable.. you are oblivious..
Most American women and many men WANT Universal Health Care..
And they will have it..

An electable republican is not a republican but a poseur..
And any that votes for him is a DUPE..

40 posted on 04/16/2008 10:07:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: TBP
“What I can't understand is all teh animosity towards Keyes on this site.”

It may be unfair to Keyes himself but much of it can be placed at the feet of his supporters here many of whom are exasperating when it comes to discussing anything about Keyes. They refuse to admit commonly known facts calling people liars and leap on any criticism like it was a heresy.

Then you have campaign personnel, like Eternal Vigilance (there are others), who won't disclose their ties to the Keyes organization on Keyes threads.

They act like a cult. FReepers don't like cults.

41 posted on 04/16/2008 10:54:39 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: TBP
BTW - Another reason some FReepers have become disillusioned by Keyes is the way he runs his organizations and how they raise money. There are many people here who have direct experience not only with Keyes orgs but the fund raising companies he associates with.

It ain't pretty. Keyes and his fund raising cohorts almost destroyed the Minutemen as well. They can engage in any shenanigans they want and I'll just walk away from them but when the start pulling other good organizations into their web of “intrigues” then I draw the line.

You should check the financial reports...if you can get a hold of them.

42 posted on 04/16/2008 11:02:01 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: TBP

Exactly why I will write him in this November. Screw the republicans.


43 posted on 04/16/2008 11:50:37 AM PDT by clodkicker
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To: clodkicker
Exactly why I will write him in this November.

You probably won't have to. He's likely to be the Constitution Party nominee.

44 posted on 04/16/2008 12:55:17 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
> In 2000, he rightfully condemned Hillary Clinton for carpetbagging in New York.

In 2004, he carpetbagged in Illinois.

He lost all credibility in terms of integrity and yet he still tries to climb on that high horse and preach about his purity to others.

He would have been all right (not that he would have won), IMHO, if he had just stood up and said that he was representing the Republican Party of IL only because the Democrats had illegally obtained prejudicial and perhaps false information on the Republican candidate at the 11th hour. That is, he didn't need to pretend to be of Illinois, only that the Republican Party had been unfairly disadvantaged and Republican voters unfairly deprived of a candidate.

Which has some similarities with the case of Robert Torricelli, but also some differences. The similarity was that Torricelli became unelectable late in the campaign, and the Democratic Party switched their candidate. The differences were that Torricelli's crookedness was already under investigation and should have been acted on at the time that the Democratic Party nominated Torricelli for reelection to the Senate, and the Democrats waited until past the time when NJ state law said that parties were entitled to switch candidates. SFAIK neither of those things were true of the Republican Party of IL and their initial nominee for Senate that year. Another difference, obviously, was that the Democratic Party of NJ had a retired senator on the bench, whereas the Republican Party of IL was obviously caught completely flatfooted when their initial candidate's candidacy imploded.

Keyes should have deflected any questions about IL geography and special interests by reference to the dirty way that Ryan was knocked out of the race. Otherwise he should have stayed out altogether. But in retrospect it was in any event a pretty long shot to try to win statewide office in IL as a Republican.


45 posted on 04/16/2008 1:58:24 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
If the Illinois GOP had stood behind Ryan and fought back against the dirty Dem tactics instead of pressuring him to drop out in the first hour of the newscast, Ryan could have fought and possibly won.

But the Illinois GOP once again proved that it was cowardly, corrupt and collaborators with the Dem run Chicago Media.

46 posted on 04/16/2008 2:04:40 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Bob J; EternalVigilance
Then you have campaign personnel, like Eternal Vigilance (there are others), who won't disclose their ties to the Keyes organization on Keyes threads.

Way to not ping people when you talk about them. I don't follow the middle-school-like pissing contests that much here on FR, but I can never recall EV hiding his association with Keyes.

And as far as all the Minutemen drama last year is concerned, it was about 8 or so freepers, nearly all of whom are now banned, engaging in nonsensical speculation, guilt-by-association and assorted other tactics, only to get their asses handed to them within 10 posts. Though I must admit that people posting stuff from the frigging Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU to make a point on a conservative website was amusing as hell.

47 posted on 04/16/2008 2:40:22 PM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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To: Maximum Scrunch; RKBA Democrat; Ron H.; EternalVigilance; CounterCounterCulture; outlawcam; ...

Looks like the Republicans are getting nervous.

If anyone wants on or off the new Keyes ping list, FReepmail me.


48 posted on 04/16/2008 3:02:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You cannot defend life if you give up the means of that defense." - Alan Keyes)
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To: jmc813

Thanks for the heads-up.


49 posted on 04/16/2008 3:02:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You cannot defend life if you give up the means of that defense." - Alan Keyes)
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To: Redbob
This is the same Alan Keyes who did such a lousy job of campaigning in Illinois that we now have someone named “Hussein” in the U.S. Senate?

You mean when he came in to try and put up some defense because the IL Republicans were defamed and their candidate destroyed at the last moment? Sure, that's aaaalll Keyes' fault.

Imagine a dyed-in-the-wool conservative being beaten by a wacko liberal in bright blue Illinois. Who'da thunk it?

50 posted on 04/16/2008 3:55:01 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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