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Chrysler in talks with Fiat to build Alfa Romeos in the U.S.?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/16/chrysler-in-talks-with-fiat-too/ ^ | 04/16/2008 | Staff

Posted on 04/16/2008 10:49:25 AM PDT by Red Badger

Chrysler now has a partnership with China-based automaker Chery to rebadge a small car for the South American market, a partnership with Volkswagen to build VW-badged minivans, and a brand new deal with Nissan in which it will supply the Japanese automaker a full-size truck in exchange for a new small car. Rumor has it that the Cerberus-owned automaker isn't done shaking hands quite yet.

The latest partnership may involve Italian automaker Fiat, as reported by the German newspaper Handelsblatt. According to the paper, the deal with Fiat would involve freeing up some of Chrysler's production capacity in the U.S. for Fiat to build Alfa Romeos here. We're not sure what Chrysler would get out of the deal besides money, but Fiat would accomplish a step that makes reintroducing Alfa Romeo cars in the U.S. that much easier. Chrysler-built Alfa Romeos, though? We've seen Chrysler-built Maseratis in the past (Maserati TC ring a bell?), which didn't work out too well. Hopefully this time, things will be different.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alfaromeo; auto; automakers; chrysler; fiat; sportscar
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FIAT + Chrysler = ?...............
1 posted on 04/16/2008 10:49:27 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777

Ping, ciao...............


2 posted on 04/16/2008 10:50:08 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

“FIAT” - “Fix It Again, Tony”.


3 posted on 04/16/2008 10:52:01 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Red Badger
FIAT + Chrysler = ?...............

The Maserati TC!

We've screwed that pooch before, me-thinks!

4 posted on 04/16/2008 10:52:50 AM PDT by Jagman (Liberalism is a "progressive" disease)
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To: Red Badger
Fix
It
Again
Tony
& Dodge it!
5 posted on 04/16/2008 10:52:56 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Red Badger
FIAT + Chrysler = ?...............

A nice looking car which will smoke like a house on fire and rust out in 2 years.

6 posted on 04/16/2008 10:53:22 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down t heir level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Red Badger

Some Alfa’s are very pretty.

The problem was that historically they built junk, and often they weren’t safe.


7 posted on 04/16/2008 10:53:52 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Bob Nardelli’s brain on crack?


8 posted on 04/16/2008 10:54:00 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Kenny Bunk

Sono sempre stato un grande appassionato dell’Alfa,sin da quando ero piccolo. Il mio sogno era di avere una macchina che portasse questo marchio e grazie a mio papà un giorno si è avverato! Aveva acquistato la 33 1.7 Boxer 16V (3za serie), che secondo un mio parere era un vero e proprio mostro:Ha delle prestazioni fantastiche!


9 posted on 04/16/2008 10:56:08 AM PDT by FrPR
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To: Red Badger
The new Alfa Romeo sport car, the C8 Competizione, is just one beautiful automobile.
10 posted on 04/16/2008 10:56:15 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
A nice looking car which will smoke like a house on fire and rust out in 2 years.

...and suck gas like there was no tomorrow.................

11 posted on 04/16/2008 10:58:52 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: L,TOWM; PzLdr

I owned a FIAT X1/9 once. I was UNDER it more than I was IN it!..............


12 posted on 04/16/2008 10:59:55 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: FrPR

If that was in English would you be banned?............


13 posted on 04/16/2008 11:00:47 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: FrPR
Every time I see an Alfa Romeo,
I tip my hat.

Henry Ford.

14 posted on 04/16/2008 11:01:31 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Looks is one thing. I owned a beautiful X1/9, but it was a POS ..............


15 posted on 04/16/2008 11:01:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
You think that's bad...I owned (or, really, it pwn3d me) one of these for 4 years!


16 posted on 04/16/2008 11:04:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Red Badger

good thing they aren’t teaming up for an American version of the Fiat 126p...all I’ll say is that it was very fine Socialist automobile...;)


17 posted on 04/16/2008 11:07:11 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Is that a Fiat? It looks more like a Subaru.

}:-)4


18 posted on 04/16/2008 11:07:48 AM PDT by Moose4 (If you get robbed, raped, or killed in Durham County, NC today, thank a probation officer.)
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To: Red Badger; FrPR
FrPR was so carried away, Badger, that he began speaking in tongues. It looks something like the lyrics to an opera called

Il Flabbergasto
or "The Blown Head Gasket"
Furthermore, all this talk about Alfa Romeos being temperamental is simply not true. I drove my '64 Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider Veloce many hundreds of carefree miles between overhauls, I am talking about weeks of trouble-free motoring. Of course, when it broke down, I had my super reliable MGB to rely on.

The old Alfa engine, designed in 1929, is the old Offenhauser engine. Simply fabulous

19 posted on 04/16/2008 11:10:30 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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To: Red Badger

Better to produce Fiat “Cinco Centos” with the price of gas going up. Cheap car where if you need an engine just hand pull the old one out and replace it. I saw many of them in southern Italy in the mid 90’s and they were the old 50’s models so apparently they’re easy to keep going. How many 50’s Chrysler cars did you see on the road in the 90’s, 80’s, 70’s? (Rhet ?)


20 posted on 04/16/2008 11:10:36 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Clinton/Obama .. Obama/ Clinton ... Mc Cain/Obama .. Mc Cain/Clinton ... What a Choice!? Puleeeze!)
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To: Moose4

Its a joint venture between Chrysler and Renault that became Chrysler’s “Eagle” division after the AMC purchase. The US version of my car was caled “Medallion”.


21 posted on 04/16/2008 11:11:40 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Drool!


22 posted on 04/16/2008 11:12:13 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Red6

“historically they built junk”

To quote Fr. Francis Mulcahy, “Not true! Not True!”

Some of the “craftsmanship” of Alfa’s was sometimes considered lacking. Don’t forget, most came to the States in the pre-metal alloys that didn’t rust era. Lest we forget, US cars of the same era the were of the “they historically they built junk” type, too.

Above all, their was styling and still is decades ahead of any of the crappola you see coming out of Detriot or Japan.


23 posted on 04/16/2008 11:13:16 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Red Badger

Google Chery Crash Tests! They totally implode on slight contact.


24 posted on 04/16/2008 11:13:45 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Red Badger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE


25 posted on 04/16/2008 11:14:42 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Some of our folks rented an Alfa during a business trip over there. Lets just say the days of the GTV6 are over, they really are very nice.


26 posted on 04/16/2008 11:15:11 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Some of our folks rented an Alfa during a business trip over there. Lets just say the days of the GTV6 are over, they really are very nice.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 11:15:21 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Amen, brother.

Buy one for me now.


28 posted on 04/16/2008 11:15:42 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Renault and AMC had been in an “Alliance” before the Chrysler merger.......


29 posted on 04/16/2008 11:17:13 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I have a ‘91 164l that drives like a champ. Could use as a daily driver if I didn’t bus in.


30 posted on 04/16/2008 11:19:04 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Red6
Some Alfa’s are very pretty. The problem was that historically they built junk,

That's the truth. I bought a brand new 1987 Spyder fresh out of college. Got rid of it after a year. I only put 7000 miles on it, but it never went more than five or six weeks without visiting the dealership for service.

Sure was pretty, though. This one looks like my old one:


31 posted on 04/16/2008 11:20:03 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

My wife’s mother bought an ‘81 Spider new and we’re still driving it. So there! :~)


32 posted on 04/16/2008 11:28:41 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Red Badger; PzLdr

My step dad was a FIAT mechanic.

He was a very busy man and never unemployed.


33 posted on 04/16/2008 11:29:50 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
...is just one beautiful automobile.

Agreed. They do make beautiful cars. Too bad they run like junk & rust like a Panama banana boat.

34 posted on 04/16/2008 11:34:04 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down t heir level, then beat you with experience.)
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He was a very busy man and never unemployed.

My Fiat was a pleasure to drive when it would move under its own power. The electrical system was a nightmare!...............

35 posted on 04/16/2008 11:36:17 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Magnetti Merelli gave Joe Lucas a run for his money...


36 posted on 04/16/2008 11:44:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Feeble
Italian
Attempt at
Transportation


37 posted on 04/16/2008 11:48:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Red Badger
Alfa are one of the worlds finest cars. 1963 2600 spider, 1959 1200 spider, 1968 1350 spider. All great cars, however tuneups are frequently required for top performance.

No way I would trust Fiat to build an Alfa. Yea yea yea I know Fiat now owns Alfa, but Fiat doesn't build'em.

38 posted on 04/16/2008 11:50:41 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Red6

The New Alfa’s are awesome, know why? There’s a German in charge.....


39 posted on 04/16/2008 11:50:50 AM PDT by cmsgop ( Chuck Norris CAN believe it's not butter.)
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To: buccaneer81

I had one just like yours but mine was red.Fastest car
I ever owned when it ran which wasn`t often.

Came out one morning to see my horse with his head
in the car,he`d eaten the roof off for some reason,Had
to order a new top,took about 2 months to get a new top.

Expensive to keep up car.


40 posted on 04/16/2008 11:52:05 AM PDT by Harold Shea ( Operation Chaos,way to go Rush)
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To: massgopguy

I always thought the 128 was a nice looking little sports car. Back in the late 60s, early 70s, a ton of money went to Italy, the UK, etc for these primitive vehicles. They sure got a chunk of mine...


41 posted on 04/16/2008 11:52:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red Badger

If it runs on ethanol call it an Alfalfa Romeo.


42 posted on 04/16/2008 12:31:25 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: PurpleMan
My wife’s mother bought an ‘81 Spider new and we’re still driving it. So there! :~)

Impressive!

43 posted on 04/16/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: OeOeO

If it plays for the Dallas Cowboys we call it the Tony Romeo!..............


44 posted on 04/16/2008 12:52:44 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Came out one morning to see my horse with his head in the car,he`d eaten the roof off for some reason,

LOL! Now that's funny!

I lived in Boston when I owned mine. You think upkeep was expensive? Try insurance for a 23 year old unmarried man in Boston. Had to cut back on the beer to pay for the policy (and to make sure I could still fit behind the wheel.)

45 posted on 04/16/2008 12:53:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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Expensive to keep up car.

It's Expensive to keep up horse!...............

46 posted on 04/16/2008 12:53:42 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: jpsb
No way I would trust Fiat to build an Alfa. Yea yea yea I know Fiat now owns Alfa, but Fiat doesn't build'em.

Did you know that the YUGO was originally a FIAT?.................

47 posted on 04/16/2008 12:55:11 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: buccaneer81

Hey,ya gotta admit it was a chick-magnet tho.

Don`t think I ever saw a white Spyder,nice.


48 posted on 04/16/2008 2:35:04 PM PDT by Harold Shea ( Operation Chaos,way to go Rush)
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To: PurpleMan
Purple man, in my long long ago careless youth I worked on FIAT's and Alfa Romeo's for one of their funky dealerships which now sells Volvos and Saabs, so I won't say who or where ... a job in the Thankless Task category.

One huge problem with late 50's and early 60's FIATS was that they had a manual choke AND a throttle. Which hadn't been seen on American cars since the early 40s. Customers couldn't figure it out!

I must have made a thousand "Won't Start" service calls. Rough running? Guy had driven 3 weeks with the choke out. Italian cars require real drivers ... not wimp consumers. That's what Jap cars are for. Also, the Weber and Solex carbs were incredibly sensitive to dirt no human eye could see; no filter could trap ... so it was helpful to know how to remove the jets and clean them with compressed air. Then Alfa came out with their own fuel injection, which ran off a pump from their diesel parts bin, working on them made me the formerly well-known consultant engineer I would like to be again today!

I owned a FIAT 124 Wagon from 1967 that is so famous it is on the internet! Still running strong, I hope. 75 mph cruise, 35 mpg, disc brakes all around, and very comfortable on long trips. Very good handling. Went over 250,000 miles for me ...great fun. Bought it in a Thrift Shop in Santa Monica!

BTW-- 124 1600 Coupe, 1971-1973 ---One of the best cars ever made anywhere. Fabulous performance. Regulated out of existence

The 124 sedan series is still in production in India, Russia, Poland, and God knows where else. It is definitely in the running for "Most Units Produced" of any car ever manufactured. I have driven the new FIATS in Italy, and they are definitely now on a par with the Japs from the point of view of user-friendliness ... and their owners tell me reliability is excellent.

And I would kill for another Alfa Giulia Spider.

49 posted on 04/16/2008 4:14:17 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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To: Red Badger

Chrysler has much excess capacity.


50 posted on 04/16/2008 4:16:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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