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Nautilus Names Bramson Chief Executive ($47.7 million loss in Q4, 2007 - subprime casualty)
Forbes ^ | 26 March 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/16/2008 6:31:07 PM PDT by LomanBill

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In February, Nautilus (nyse: NLS - news - people ) said it swung to a fourth-quarter loss of $47.7 million, or $1.51 per share, versus a profit of $12.9 million, or 41 cents per share, amid weak demand for home exercise gym equipment and a weak economic environment.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: subprime
It appears Nautilus has become a victim of the subprime industry. That's sad. That's what greed does.
1 posted on 04/16/2008 6:31:08 PM PDT by LomanBill
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To: LomanBill
They didn't plan well for the demand. This was from sales at the end of last year, before the Bear Sterns situation.

They rode up the swing for the past few years.

I like their equipment, but they are responsible for right-sizing for demand.

2 posted on 04/16/2008 7:28:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: LomanBill; ex-Texan
I spent about an hour over lunch today trying to get through to a customer service rep, ANY customer service rep, at Nautilus regarding an order that has been "lost" by the shipper.  That's makes for a total of about 5 hours wasted in the past two weeks trying to get this resolved.  Called back again tonight at 6:54pm Mtn time, only to receive a recording that said they were closed and their hours are 6:00am to 7:00pm Pacific time.  Closed?  Over an hour early?
 
The freight company indicates a status of "Shipment All Short"; they said the item had likely never been placed on the truck.
 
Of course, my credit card was charged the day after the order was placed - nearly a month ago.
 
Well, I thought, maybe they're just overwhelmed by sales... but then tonight I happened to google "Nautilus" news, and found this thread's article.
 
Hmmmm...
 
** Customer Service not responding.
** 47 Million dollar loss for last quarter
** Nautilus, Inc. to Announce First Quarter 2008 Results on Monday, May 5th
 
And my order, charged to my credit card by Nautilus - but now mysteriously "lost", and, according to the freight company, never put on the truck.
 
What an interesting set of coincidences.
 
Also curious is a string of Nautilus Stock aquisitions by Mr. Bramson, the new CEO, begining last fall.  Curious if for nothing else than the fact that Bramson led a proxy fight that resulted in the appointment of four new Nautilus board members, including himself, in December.
 
 
More than I really wanted to know about Nautilus; but as it turns out, Mr. Bramson became Nautilus' CEO on the day the order was charged to my Credit Card.  Hence the chaos I've experienced in dealing with the company? 
 
Great timing :-\
 
So, a simple purchase turned to this.   I thought I'd do my part to bolster consumer spending by buying an exercycle for my soon to be pregnant wife.  I researched the product and features - a Schwinn 231 recumbent bicycle - and it had good reviews, indicating an excellent value for the price. 
 
But I didn't think to research the company I was doing business with - after all, Nautilus has been around for years and I've used their equipment begining nearly 30 years ago while playing ball in college; I had no idea they'd just lost 47 million dollars.  
 
To be fair, however, the problems being experienced by Nautilus and its customers, such a myself, can be attributed in no small part to the subprime debacle.
 
It's a sign of the times, I suppose.
 
Anyway, apparently I should have done this research prior to pressing the "Checkout" button.
 
So, let mine be a cautionary tale that, these days especially, buyers should always beware and research the companies they do business with - because you never know what lurks behind the veneer of corporate images past.

3 posted on 04/16/2008 8:44:15 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill

I can’t remember the last time I saw a Nautilus commercial. I went to one gym that had Nautilus equipment and I wasn’t impressed, uncomfortable and harder to adjust than any of the other equipment. Really never been impressed by them.


4 posted on 04/16/2008 8:47:08 PM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: ConservativeMind
>>They didn't plan well for the demand.
 
That's what I thought...  I like their equipment too and had no hesitation ordering some - but see my post #3 on this thread
 
And it's Odd they'd have a loss if demand is booming?
 
It's also odd they'd be laying people off to meet demand.
 
 
All for greed and arrogance.  It's a shame.

5 posted on 04/16/2008 8:52:48 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: ConservativeMind

>>They didn’t plan well for the demand.

Ack wait. You mean the *Lack* of demand. They didn’t downsize to compensate for lack of demand, correct?

That makes more sense. Duh.


6 posted on 04/16/2008 8:55:40 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: discostu
I can’t remember the last time I saw a Nautilus commercial.
 
Not just Nautilus machines - It's the Nautilus Family of products now:
Nautilus, Inc. is a pure fitness company that provides tools and education necessary to help people achieve a fit and healthy lifestyle. With a brand portfolio that includes Nautilus®, Bowflex®, Schwinn® Fitness, StairMaster®, Trimline® and Pearl iZUMi®, Nautilus manufactures and markets a complete line of innovative health and fitness products through direct, commercial, retail, specialty and international channels.
http://www.nautilus-international.net/idusflash/front/indexN.html

7 posted on 04/16/2008 9:01:26 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill

Hmm that’s weird, they have Schwinn Fitness but as near as I can tell don’t own Schwinn, must be a name license deal, or the ownership change is a lot more complex than I thought.


8 posted on 04/16/2008 9:07:48 PM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: LomanBill

Do a charge-back on your credit card. You won’t have to pay for your lost purchase.


9 posted on 04/16/2008 9:11:51 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: discostu; Travis McGee; ex-Texan

>>or the ownership change is a lot
>>more complex than I thought.

Yep. Apparently Mr. Bramson, the new CEO of Nautilus, is a British hedge fund mucky muck.

Did Nautilus just get eaten by a bigger fish?

Seems like a subprime derived firesale. More to come?


10 posted on 04/16/2008 9:20:07 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: ConservativeMind

>>Do a charge-back on your credit card.
>>You won’t have to pay for your lost purchase.

Hmmm, didn’t know I could do that. Never had to do it before.

Thanks for the tip, FRiend :-)


11 posted on 04/16/2008 9:22:22 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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I’m not really convinced subprime has anything to do with it. They’re equipment isn’t that expensive, people shouldn’t be taking out weird loans to buy it. I think they just plain screwed the pooch, it’s been at least 6 months since I saw a commercial for any of those product lines, and usually Bowflex commercials are everywhere. A 1 quarter crash like that usually relates to management screw ups more than any external force.


12 posted on 04/16/2008 9:25:28 PM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: discostu
"usually Bowflex commercials are everywhere."

They still advertise a lot on Fox Soccer Channel.

13 posted on 04/16/2008 10:25:05 PM PDT by kerosene
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To: discostu
>>I’m not really convinced subprime has anything to do with it.
 
No more equity piggy bank.   I would suspect the money spent on their equipment is largely discretionary income.   Much of the discretionary "income" of the recent past has been derived from refis and home equity -  So the vaporization of home equity has eliminated a good chunk of their market.  Simple.
 
>>I think they just plain screwed the pooch, it’s been at least 6 months since I saw a commercial for any of those product lines
 
I don't watch TV, but I have noticed Bowflex adds are all over the internet now.  Seems every other www page I visit has a Bowflex Revolution advert on it.
 
>>A 1 quarter crash like that usually relates to management screw ups more than any external force.
 
Maybe they were used to riding the gravy train and didn't know how to react when it got derailed.
 
 

14 posted on 04/16/2008 11:24:21 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill
What did you do to my company?


15 posted on 04/17/2008 7:31:16 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Dahoser

Interesting image. Who is that man and what is his story?


16 posted on 04/17/2008 7:42:48 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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Anybody taking out equity loans to buy exercise equipment is on a bad path with or without the subprime problems. Unless you’re actually getting enough to open a gym and charge access gym equipment should at worst be a credit card purchase.

I must not be hitting the healthy parts of the internet, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad for any gym equipment on the net.

Or they over extended in purchasing other companies. One thing I can definitely point to given that list of “families” from their website is they have seriously diluted their name recognition. At one point they had the most recognizable name in exercise, and they still have some of the most recognizable names, but who would know those are all Nautilus without going to the website, making your products compete with each other is never a good idea, use your name, make the products a suite.


17 posted on 04/17/2008 7:58:40 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: discostu
>>I’m not really convinced subprime has anything to do with it.
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>>A 1 quarter crash like that usually relates to management screw ups more than any external force.
 
The subprime fiasco and implosion of the housing bubble caused the vaporization of large amounts of discretionary spending - resulting in a direct hit on Nautilus' sales.   This made Nautilus vulnerable to a hostile takeover.
 
Sherborne Proposes New Nautilus Regime
VANCOUVER, Wash.— Fitness equipment company Nautilus Inc. and a dissident shareholder, hedge fund Sherborne Investors LP, each made its pitch for support in letters to Nautilus shareholders in the middle of this month asking for their votes at a shareholders meeting scheduled for Dec. 18.

In its Nov. 14 letter, Sherborne described itself as a turnaround investment firm with a long-term strategy. It said Nautilus' profitability has declined because management has diverted sales from high gross margin direct sales to the lower margin retail channel.

Among the other problems it cited: The quality of accounts receivable is lower in the retail channel, the inventory is more complicated and the acquisition of Land America Health and Fitness Co. has produced inadequate return and has increased margin risks.

In a response, mailed to investors Nov. 15, Nautilus described Sherborne as "an opportunistic hedge fund that is trying to take advantage of Nautilus' first and only [emphasis in original] unprofitable quarter in its history as a public company."
It criticized in particular Sherborne's principal, Edward Bramson, also one of Sherborne's three nominees for the board. It said that he has a poor track record at Ampex, a data storage company. Mr. Bramson resigned as Ampex' chief executive and chairman in February of this year.
"It appears to Nautilus that Bramson and the other Sherborne nominees have no relevant fitness industry experience and we are convinced that Bramson's track record with Ampex is the very opposite of what one would want in a Nautilus director."
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:WMYrhzegHtIJ:www.hedgeworld.com/news/read_news.cgi%3Fsection%3Ddail%26story%3Ddail14537.html+Sherborne+subprime&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
 
One if by land, two if by sea, and three if by wire transfer?

18 posted on 04/17/2008 8:36:05 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: LomanBill

Doesn’t look like anything about subprime, they changed their selling methods to ones with more overhead and lower margins. Management screw up.


19 posted on 04/17/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: discostu

Anybody taking out equity loans to buy exercise equipment is on a bad path with or without the subprime problems. Unless you’re actually getting enough to open a gym and charge access gym equipment should at worst be a credit card purchase.

"Credit Card purchase." Bingo.  Vaporization of home equity stopped the "refi and pay off the credit cards" merry-go-round

I must not be hitting the healthy parts of the internet, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad for any gym equipment on the net.

I've particularly noticed they've been pushing their Bowflex Revolution.    The advert has Brett Favre endorsing / using the product.  Probably related to this ad campaign.

Or they over extended in purchasing other companies.

Subprime, bankruptcy, corporate raiding - all ugly business.  Looks like Nautilus is caught in the nexus. 

One thing I can definitely point to given that list of “families” from their website is they have seriously diluted their name recognition. At one point they had the most recognizable name in exercise, and they still have some of the most recognizable names, but who would know those are all Nautilus without going to the website, making your products compete with each other is never a good idea, use your name, make the products a suite.

Good point.  An example is the way the Schwinn brand recumbent bikes ($549) undercut the Nautilus brand recumbent bikes (over $3000).

Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. Gotta wonder if these corporate raider types, gobbling up companies just because they can, have ever produced anything of real value in their predatory existences.

And now the Nautilus fish has been eaten by an even bigger fish:

"an opportunistic hedge fund that is trying to take advantage of Nautilus' first and only [emphasis in original] unprofitable quarter in its history as a public company."

Maybe Nautilus is just reaping what they have sown.

20 posted on 04/17/2008 9:15:54 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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