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AP-Yahoo poll shows McCain winning back unhappy Republicans
AP ^ | Apr 17, 2008 | ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:10:40 AM PDT by tlb

WASHINGTON (AP) - Republicans are no longer underdogs in the race for the White House. To pull that off, John McCain has attracted disgruntled GOP voters, independents and even some moderate Democrats who shunned his party last fall.

Partly thanks to an increasingly likable image, the Republican presidential candidate has pulled even with the two Democrats still brawling for their party's nomination, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo news poll released Thursday. Just five months ago - before either party had winnowed its field - the survey showed people preferred sending an unnamed Democrat over a Republican to the White House by 13 percentage points.

Also helping the Arizona senator close the gap: Peoples' opinions of Hillary Rodham Clinton have soured slightly, while their views of Barack Obama have improved though less impressively than McCain's.

The survey suggests that those switching to McCain are largely attuned to his personal qualities and McCain may be benefiting as the two Democrats snipe at each other during their prolonged nomination fight.

By tracking the same group of roughly 2,000 people throughout the campaign, the AP-Yahoo poll can gauge how individual views are evolving. What's clear is that some Republican-leaning voters who backed Bush in 2004 but lost enthusiasm for him are returning to the GOP fold - along with a smaller but significant number of Democrats who have come to dislike their party's two contenders.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; gop; maverick; mccain; nevermccain; puke; rino
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A lot of trolling down the drain.
1 posted on 04/17/2008 6:10:41 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

McCain is blessed by having such lousy opponents — thus he receives the gift of lowered expectations.


2 posted on 04/17/2008 6:13:18 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: tlb

Hillary and Obama are the reason.


3 posted on 04/17/2008 6:14:13 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Unapologetically European)
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To: tlb
The choice, once again, is the lesser of two evils. Obama or McCain? The more Barry Hussein speaks the more people find McCain less unappealing. That's not an endorsement of McCain but rather a reaction to the fear of what an Obama presidency might do to the US.
4 posted on 04/17/2008 6:14:53 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: tlb

>> To pull that off, John McCain has attracted disgruntled GOP voters

Attract? Nah. But as the truth about the Rat candidates sinks in, Obama and Hillary! are REPELLING GOP voters into John’s arms (where else can they go).


5 posted on 04/17/2008 6:14:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: tlb
Looks like some clearly miss that knife in their back.

I don't.

6 posted on 04/17/2008 6:16:03 AM PDT by rintense
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To: tlb
A lot of trolling down the drain.

Now THAT's funny!

7 posted on 04/17/2008 6:17:19 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: mgc1122
McCain is so bad that I'm still waiting to see who he picks for VP and who the Constitutional Party and Libertarian Parties nominate.

As bad as Hillbama may be, if the election were held today, I still wouldn't vote for McCain.

8 posted on 04/17/2008 6:18:06 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: misterrob
The choice, once again, is the lesser of two evils.

It's always been that way and I expect it always will be. Those who sit around waiting for the Great Pumpkin Messiah candidate are nearly always disappointed... or delusional.

9 posted on 04/17/2008 6:19:54 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: tlb

To pull that off, John McCain has attracted disgruntled GOP voters, independents and even some moderate Democrats who shunned his party last fall.


Some of the disgruntled are returning while others have left and moved on to other parties seeking their fame or obscurity.


10 posted on 04/17/2008 6:21:04 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: tlb

It’s because (rightfully so) they’re becoming more frightened over what the Left is offering these days.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 6:21:49 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Vigilanteman

My name is 50sDad: I voted for Ross Perot, and helped elect eight years of a sniggering, arrogant, smug, Leftist Liberal smart@$$.


12 posted on 04/17/2008 6:21:58 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Vigilanteman
As bad as Hillbama may be, if the election were held today, I still wouldn't vote for McCain.

Ditto ... and based on the populist pandering this week with his "greed" comments, it makes even considering a vote for McCain even harder.

McCain has a golden opportunity to embrace conservative positions on taxation (death tax, income and capital gains), energy and the economy ... which will BE the issues come September. I don't see him jumping out to take the lead on these.

13 posted on 04/17/2008 6:22:25 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Vigilanteman

Then you might as well vote for Obama then.

As bad as you say McCain is would you rather have Obama or Hillary who are light years worse than McCain can ever be?

I can’t believe people hate McCain so much that they wouldn’t vote at all or vote for some thrid party canidate and therefore help put Obama in the White House.


14 posted on 04/17/2008 6:23:00 AM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: tlb

Darn. I missed that poll.


15 posted on 04/17/2008 6:24:09 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Vigilanteman
"I'm still waiting to see who he picks for VP and who the Constitutional Party and Libertarian Parties nominate."

This might help: President McCain Promoting or Obstructing Conservatism (a desision making tool)

16 posted on 04/17/2008 6:24:26 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Vigilanteman
. . . I still wouldn't vote for McCain.

I'm not in the mood for arguing today, but please consider what the troops in Iraq have been fighting for and our military reputation around the world before you sit out the election.

17 posted on 04/17/2008 6:24:56 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: rintense

Nor I.


18 posted on 04/17/2008 6:27:14 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: misterrob; P-Marlowe

In a race between a communist and a defense-minded Rino, I’ll probably hold my nose and vote for the Rino.


19 posted on 04/17/2008 6:28:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Partly thanks to an increasingly likable image

I guess even tarantulas have their fans.

20 posted on 04/17/2008 6:29:01 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Comments not made by me . . but by somebody associated with me)
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To: faithinchaos
"I can’t believe people hate McCain so much that they wouldn’t vote at all or vote for some thrid party canidate and therefore help put Obama in the White House."

I think if you read the link in #16, you'll understand why. It's not intended to change your mind, just help you to reason through the decision according to your values.

21 posted on 04/17/2008 6:29:08 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: All

I’ll vote for McCain in November - but he’ll get no financial or volunteer support from me.

Any money or volunteer effort will go to other candidates in my state.


22 posted on 04/17/2008 6:29:37 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: 50sDad

You voted for who you felt was the best candidate. That is all any of us can do. It wasn’t a RP problem but a weak leadership by the Republican Party IMO. If you are connecting with the public no one is going to take your base away.


23 posted on 04/17/2008 6:30:20 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: tlb
Given McCain is a clunker, but if conservatism is going to survive beyond just arguing on internet forums, maybe it's time to stop obsessing about the presidency, since that's lost in any case, and start focusing on workarounds, in the congress and state governments.

Strengthen the things that remain.

24 posted on 04/17/2008 6:34:49 AM PDT by Thudd (Go sell stupid somewhere else - we're full up here.)
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To: tlb

Moving the national election day to April 15 is the easiest way I know how to bring about conservative policies and conservative politicians ... I can’t see continuing to subsidize “sorta kinda sideways sometimes” conservative candidates in the hopes they get a couple of issues right.


25 posted on 04/17/2008 6:35:35 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: tlb

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows John McCain leading Barack Obama, 47% to 42%. The presumptive Republican nominee also leads Hillary Clinton 50% to 40%. Among unaffiliated voters, McCain leads Obama by eight percentage points and Clinton by fifteen. Daily tracking results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time (see recent general election results).

Overall, among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 55% and unfavorably by 42%. Obama’s ratings are 47% favorable and 51% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 42% favorable, 56% unfavorable (see recent daily favorable ratings). Among unaffiliated voters, McCain is viewed favorably by 55%, Obama by 47%, and Clinton by 34%.


26 posted on 04/17/2008 6:35:46 AM PDT by weezel
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To: elfman2

Regardless. I’m not a fan of McCain either but I would never waste my vote on some third party canidate and help put some smug, closet racist, marxist in the White House.

If you think Clinton was bad well, Obama will be a hundred times worse.


27 posted on 04/17/2008 6:36:07 AM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: xzins
Always vote for the most Conservative viable option. In this election, it is McCain.

Perhaps by 2012, there will be a chance to elect a true Conservative President. We can work on that then.

Allowing either Hillary or Obama to win this election would be devastating to the country.

28 posted on 04/17/2008 6:36:17 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: tlb
Here's the reality. The staunch patriots here on FreeRepublic and across the county fully realize that McCain will stab them in the back multiple times and will betray them. We know this for a fact.

We also know that we cannot allow this country to fall into the communist hands of Obama, or into the Marxist hands of Hillary who will use the IRS as a tool to crush her enemies.

Simply stated, American patriots have resolved in their own minds that they will take a McCain shiv in the back because they love this country more than they hate McCain and are willing to personally sacrifice as much.

29 posted on 04/17/2008 6:36:32 AM PDT by Obadiah (I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
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To: tlb

“...people preferred sending an unnamed Democrat over a Republican to the White House...”

The trouble for the Dems is now they’ve named them, and they are both anti-American Leftists.


30 posted on 04/17/2008 6:38:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: BfloGuy
"please consider what the troops in Iraq have been fighting for and our military reputation around the world before you sit out the election"

Vengeful compromises destructive to conservatism and freedom in the long term in exchange for immediate power?

31 posted on 04/17/2008 6:38:27 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: comebacknewt

“Perhaps by 2012, there will be a chance to elect a true Conservative President.”

How many people will support conservatism after seeing that its compromise was the path to success? How many people will believe that the Republican Party promotes conservatism after 4-8 years of McCain? How many people will even understand conservatism after President McCain?


32 posted on 04/17/2008 6:43:00 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: tlb

The more we grip the more we get. You think if all conservatives just shut up and jumped on the bandwagon he’d be talking tax cuts now? Keep the kvetching going until November I say.


33 posted on 04/17/2008 6:43:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: tlb

McCain is not winning conservatives. They are going to him by default because otherwise we’ll end up with Carl Marx or the great Socialist Shrew.


34 posted on 04/17/2008 6:45:25 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: faithinchaos

” I’m not a fan of McCain either but I would never waste my vote on some third party canidate and help put some smug, closet racist, marxist in the White House.”

The shortest path to a destination is not always a straight line.


35 posted on 04/17/2008 6:47:21 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Vigilanteman
I'm still waiting to see who he picks for VP and who the Constitutional Party and Libertarian Parties nominate.

I have really bad news for you. I, too, was once sucked in by these phonies. I was stupid enough to send them (the CP party) money--twice. Then my eyes were opened.

These thieves took my money and used it to run ads against Bush--not Gore or Kerry!!

It was disgusting. They were trying to get Gore and Kerry elected. I have nothing but disdain for them.

I've also come to realize that these phonies stand there beating their chests pretending to be more sanctimonious than Republicans knowing full well, they'll never win anything. They don't even want to win anything. If they did, they'd have to then govern and they wouldn't be so perfect then.

If you want to throw away your hopes, and money and help elect one of these absolutely terrible RATS, I guess this is America (even though that is slowly eroding away) and you can do it but you're being deceived in the process.

36 posted on 04/17/2008 6:52:12 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: elfman2
"How many people will support conservatism after seeing that its compromise was the path to success? How many people will believe that the Republican Party promotes conservatism after 4-8 years of McCain? How many people will even understand conservatism after President McCain?"

We can play a part in that.

If McCain gets elected, we should support him when he acts as a Conservative, and he will on some issues. On those issues where he does not act as a Conservative, we need to oppose him vigorously.

The candidates in 2012 or 2016 will also have to help define why the Conservative approach is the best approach. If they can do that, and can connect with the voters, then they can win election even if McCain behaves as a RINO in office.

If we allow Barak or Hillary! to assume the office, where they control the military and appoint the judges with a rubber stamp Senate, there may not be much of a country left for whoever we run in 2012. That needs to be prevented at all costs.

37 posted on 04/17/2008 6:53:20 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: tlb

More like, we know that Obama and Hillary would be much worse, so we are just playing the hand we’ve been dealt.


38 posted on 04/17/2008 6:53:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: elfman2
I understand and am sympathetic to the ignore McCain argument - basicly it boils down to "It takes a Jimmy Carter to bring a Ronald Reagan" - but I am uncomfortable with that approach at the moment.

I feel that 1980 was the culmination of years of under the radar creative activism and growth, that began with Goldwater. The problem in my view is that I don't see that same kind of energy and effort among conservatives of today, outside of the geopolitical engagements regarding the WOT. I'm by no means a Libertarian isolationist type, but it seems to me that the war on terror has sucked all the energy of conservatives to deal with that, while at the same time energizing the socialist wing of American politics.

39 posted on 04/17/2008 6:54:05 AM PDT by Thudd (Go sell stupid somewhere else - we're full up here.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Too bad we don’t have a candidate we can be enthusiastic about. It’s all a question about the lesser of two evils.

Did I read also the Gallup poll shows McCain beating both those other 2? Unreal. He is underfunded, some question his age, and the party is unenthusiastic. But if he is leading at this point it must be a big indicator of how pathetic the Dems are.


40 posted on 04/17/2008 6:54:30 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: comebacknewt
Always vote for the most Conservative viable option. In this election, it is McCain.

Sadly, you are correct.

41 posted on 04/17/2008 6:55:55 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: tlb

There are two main reasons I am voting for McCain - Clinton & Obama.


42 posted on 04/17/2008 6:56:28 AM PDT by red state girl (never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Vigilanteman
They're not real political parties. They're debating societies (And that's fine). They don't get their people elected, and that is the purpose of political parties.

The Constitutional Party and Libertarian Parties seem to spend all their time trying to decide who's "holier than thou".

43 posted on 04/17/2008 7:00:21 AM PDT by Valin
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To: elfman2
I think if you read the link in #16, you'll understand why. It's not intended to change your mind, just help you to reason through the decision according to your values.

Thanks for posting elfman2. I just scanned it, but will go back for a more detailed reading.

I agree that McCain is the least undesirable of the 3 remaining candidates. However, he's drunk the kool-aid on global warming, his economic policies remain less than coherant, and he's proven himself far too willing to jump across the aisle to the detriment of this nation.

To exhort me to vote for McCain simply because he's not as bad as Obama or Hillary, while calling me a traitor for not voting for McCain, simply isn't going to get my vote.

44 posted on 04/17/2008 7:01:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: Obadiah
"Simply stated, American patriots have resolved in their own minds that they will take a McCain shiv in the back because they love this country more than they hate McCain and are willing to personally sacrifice as much."

Yup. McCain will throw conservatives under the bus whenever he wants to appear "bi-partisan" to his news media and Beltway friends. That's a given.

So we conservatives know that we're leaping onto the McCain hand grenade in order to save the rest of our country...because Hillary and Obama and Gore and Kerry are foreign agents, gooks, inside the wire.

We can't allow the NVA to run the U.S.

So we vote McCain to save the country, even though McCain won't advance conservativism.

...but he won't sell out our country. He is a patriot. And he won't set conservatism back as much as having ChiComs, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Putin, or Kim Jong Il in the White House (and that's Hillary, Obama, Gore, and Kerry).

On the plus side, at least McCain will roll back the federal tax on our gasoline.

45 posted on 04/17/2008 7:07:42 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: rintense

Yes, there are some that act like a battered and abused spouse that continues to hang on to a failed and repulsive marriage.

I will not support the insidious traitor under any circumstances.


46 posted on 04/17/2008 7:08:09 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Valin
The Constitutional Party and Libertarian Parties seem to spend all their time trying to decide who's "holier than thou".

You got that right. They're cowards. Actually, it's worse than that. They're liars. They could actually affect change for the positive if they would all realize that the only viable vehicle for them to accomplish what they claim they want to accomplish is the Republican party. The RP would be stronger if all would fight together.

Obviously, they're closet leftists.

47 posted on 04/17/2008 7:08:18 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: tlb

48 posted on 04/17/2008 7:09:39 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Obadiah

Nicely put!!


49 posted on 04/17/2008 7:11:24 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: rhombus

Disagree. Was it a choice between the lesser of two evils between Reagan and Carter?

I really can’t think of an evil GOP nominee since 1980, except of course, McCain. They all had flaws, but all were at least moderate Republicans. This election it really is a choice between two leftists.


50 posted on 04/17/2008 7:12:15 AM PDT by MBB1984
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