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Democrats Block Resolution to Commend Pope
Town Hall ^ | April 17, 2008 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:44:21 AM PDT by yoe

A reliable GOP aide informs Townhall that Senate Democrats are blocking a measure to commend Pope Benedict XVI because of “controversial” religious language used in the text of the resolution.a,pa.

The Pope arrived in Washington Wednesday for a six-day visit to the United States. He delivered an address on the White House South Lawn that morning to praise the America for preserving religious freedom at home and abroad.

The Senate has so far refrained from passing a similar resolution because at least one Senate Democrat is objecting to the following statements contained in the Senate’s resolution to welcome the Pope:

"Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken approvingly of the vibrance of religious faith in the United States, a faith nourished by a constitutional commitment to religious liberty that neither attempts to strip our public spaces of religious expression nor denies the ultimate source of our rights and liberties"

"Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken out for the weak and vulnerable, witnessing to the value of each and every human life;"

The Senate resolution has bipartisan sponsorship. Republican Sen. Sam Brownback (R.-Kans.) introduced the resolution on April 15. It is cosponsored by Democratic Sen. Bob Casey (Pa.). Both senators are Catholic.

The was offered for passage by unanimous consent, meaning the Senate could pass it without a vote, through a procedure called “hotlining.” The resolution could not be “hotlined,” however, because of Democratic objections to the statements listed above.

Until Democrats lift their objections, or the resolution is modified, it remains in limbo.

The aide tells Townhall, “I guess the Democrats look down on those who ‘cling’ to religious liberty and value life. Makes me bitter.”

Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) has faced fierce criticism over the past week because he suggested to supporters at a private fundraiser in San Francisco “bitter” Americans “cling” to wedge voting issues like gun rights, faith and border security when faced with economic hardship.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: catholic; liberals; papalvisit; pope; secular

1 posted on 04/17/2008 6:44:21 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

The democrats would veto “The Second Coming” if it was announced by Archangel Gabriel.


2 posted on 04/17/2008 6:47:43 AM PDT by AU72
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To: NYer; Pyro7480; ArrogantBustard; AnAmericanMother; Maeve; Mrs. Don-o; sandyeggo

Ping! Anti-Christian Democrats up to the same ole same ole!


3 posted on 04/17/2008 6:49:40 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("Typical 'bitter' 'White Male" whose vote the Dems now desperately want so bad - HA!)
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To: yoe

>> the resolution ... remains in limbo.

Punny Catholic humor?


4 posted on 04/17/2008 6:51:34 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: yoe
because at least one Senate Democrat is objecting to the following statements contained in the Senate’s resolution to welcome the Pope:

Who? Who? Every day I hate the procedural secrecy of Congress even more. I can understand why Congressional hearings on defense or intelligence have to be classified, but why are the names of who proposes or stops legislation, who drops in earmarks, or who signs or doesn't sign discharge petitions held more closely than top secret military info?

If a senator wants to stand up and say "Congress has no business commending a religious leader" or even "I oppose the Pope's agenda and I don't want this voted on" I would have far more respect for him that if he sneaks in at night and whispers "Majority leader Reid, I don't want this passed, but keep my name secret."

5 posted on 04/17/2008 6:51:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: AU72

>> The democrats would veto “The Second Coming” if it was announced by Archangel Gabriel.

ROFL!

And it would be yet another losing position for them.


7 posted on 04/17/2008 6:52:47 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: yoe

So, why have it be by unanimous consent. Get it to the floor and let some demonRATs go on record as opposing it, or at least on record as being absent.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 6:53:57 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: yoe

Because that one Democrat coward will not come forward with his/her objection to the resolution, it is fair to blame all the Democrat Senators.


9 posted on 04/17/2008 6:55:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: yoe
The aide tells Townhall, “I guess the Democrats look down on those who ‘cling’ to religious liberty and value life. Makes me bitter.”

He he he,...

10 posted on 04/17/2008 6:55:44 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: yoe

When will they publish a list of the name(s) of those who oppose the resolution?


11 posted on 04/17/2008 6:55:55 AM PDT by WayneS ("Thank you Holy Father - Awesome speech!!")
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To: yoe

So democrats kiss jihadi ass, and kiss jihadi bearded faces, but refuse to compliment the Pope.


12 posted on 04/17/2008 6:59:09 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (damn the left!)
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To: KarlInOhio

I’ll bet anything that its Bernie Sanders holding it up.He’s not officialy a Dem, but he’s a godless bolshevik and the mere sight of B16 must drive him beserk.Why do libs all seem to have a nuclear reactor of hatred boiling inside of them all the time?


13 posted on 04/17/2008 7:02:27 AM PDT by Paddyboy
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To: AU72

Democrats reserve Resolutions of Commendation for Communist Dictators. Marxist = New Democrat I wonder if “Neocommicrat” would be a useful descriptive? They like bumper sticker short for their political statements.


14 posted on 04/17/2008 7:04:42 AM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: yoe

The Dems “Thank-you” to American Roman Catholics.


15 posted on 04/17/2008 7:05:29 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Paddyboy

It could be because the libs KNOW that their idology is on its way OUT as more people start to realize those type of values are FALSE and are not LASTING. Rather the values of FAITH are a lasting source of confort and strength.


16 posted on 04/17/2008 7:08:12 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: yoe

Dems are a bunch of haters.


17 posted on 04/17/2008 7:08:21 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park" Watching the Rat Fight. typical white person)
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To: yoe

A Democrat and a Nazi/Communist are brothers.


18 posted on 04/17/2008 7:09:54 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: yoe
The aide tells Townhall, “I guess the Democrats look down on those who ‘cling’ to religious liberty and value life. Makes me bitter.”

Ha! that's a good one lol
19 posted on 04/17/2008 7:11:02 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us . nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: Paddyboy
...the mere sight of B16 must drive him berserk.

There's a lot of that going around.

20 posted on 04/17/2008 7:12:43 AM PDT by Petronski (Vivat Benedict XVI!)
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To: yoe
"Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken out for the weak and vulnerable, witnessing to the value of each and every human life;"

I'm going to guess that this is seen as an anti-abortion statement, and as such is unacceptable to some people.

21 posted on 04/17/2008 7:13:32 AM PDT by RonF
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To: yoe

Kennedy? Boxer? Schumer? Kerry? Lautenberg?


22 posted on 04/17/2008 7:17:05 AM PDT by Spaghetti Man (Nobama)
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To: yoe

I have read the Book. God’s side wins. So the Democrats not only pick the losing side again. They are doing it in the open. Too bad the media is not talking about them blocking this, I bet if Yassir Arafat were still alive they would have no problem giving him kudos if he were on a state visit here.


23 posted on 04/17/2008 7:25:22 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: yoe
Any chance the blogsphere can raise enough of a stink about this that the Dems start to take some heat? If we make them look like the religious bigots they are, perhaps some Dem Catholics will move over to Republican? Or perhaps keep some of their Dem donations at home?

Any Freepers connected enough with Rush or Hannity that we can get some national media attention on this?

24 posted on 04/17/2008 7:26:26 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: yoe

So let the people of this country say “”Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken approvingly of the vibrance of ......................................................................... the ultimate source of our rights and liberties, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES SAYS.”


25 posted on 04/17/2008 7:28:50 AM PDT by RC2
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To: yoe
The aide tells Townhall, “I guess the Democrats look down on those who ‘cling’ to religious liberty and value life. Makes me bitter.”

LOL! Score!

26 posted on 04/17/2008 7:31:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ("We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election." - Ahmed Yousef, Hamas PM advisor)
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To: yoe

The whack left does not like popular religous figures.....


27 posted on 04/17/2008 7:34:08 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: yoe

In a funny way, this kind of thing from these members of Congress is a good thing. It highlights their hatred for truth. They’d sign on for any kind of endorsement or commendation of the leader of any of the many false religions out there, but they hate the truth.


28 posted on 04/17/2008 7:37:39 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: KarlInOhio
All voting in Congress is a matter of public record. However, not all floor votes are roll call votes. There are voice votes (“aye” or “no”) and division or standing votes (where the presiding officer counts Members), and these types of votes do not indicate by name how a Member voted.

Nancy Pelosi, an advocate for abortion, met briefly with the pope - it is her job to stop congress from any meaningful progress to embarrass President Bush. I would love to know the names also.

29 posted on 04/17/2008 7:42:00 AM PDT by yoe ( Socialism with Obama or Clinton - Democracy with McCain)
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To: kittymyrib
We already know that 100% of the Senate Democrats are Godless, soulless apparatchiks sponsored by special interests who wish to turn America into a radioactive desert wasteland.

This additional proof wasn't needed, but it's good to see these devils overplay their hands once more in an election year.

30 posted on 04/17/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kittymyrib

Beyond that, it’s probably Senator Webb. He, himself, has a special affection for pedophilia (see his books) and most likely has taken personal offense at the Pope’s statements condemning sexual assaults on children.


31 posted on 04/17/2008 7:49:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sandyeggo
"Dolts."

You're word for them is too kind. Living just across the Potomas from where these yahoos waste time and taxpayer's money, my description for them is considerably more spicy and colorful!
32 posted on 04/17/2008 8:13:01 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("Typical 'bitter' 'White Male" whose vote the Dems now desperately want so bad - HA!)
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To: sandyeggo
"Dolts."

Your word for them is too kind. Living just across the Potomas from where these yahoos waste time and taxpayer's money, my description for them is considerably more spicy and colorful!
33 posted on 04/17/2008 8:13:14 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("Typical 'bitter' 'White Male" whose vote the Dems now desperately want so bad - HA!)
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To: yoe

UnAmerican, hostile to religion unless it may be Islam,
money grabbing democRATS.


34 posted on 04/17/2008 8:15:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: yoe
My money is on the anti Catholic BIGOT, Chuckie Shoooooooomer.

(Insult intended)

35 posted on 04/17/2008 8:39:32 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Convert from ECUSA; markomalley

“Anti-Christian Democrats up to the same ole same ole!” ~ Convert from UCUSA

How can this be??? They found a “religious leader” who knows what “God’s Politics” is - -(the south-side of Chicago Community Organization politics of Saul Alinsky, Barak Obama, and Hillary Clinton) — to help them!!! /s

With the Help of a Dozen, Democrats Learn to ‘Get Religion’ (Liberal Religiousity Alert)
Religion News Service ^ | 10/17/2006 | Daniel Burke, Kevin Eckstrom and Peter Sachs
Posted on 12/26/2006 1:22:32 PM EST by markomalley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1758617/posts


36 posted on 04/17/2008 8:41:14 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Proud member of "Operation Chaos" having the T-shirt , ball cap and bumpersticker to prove it.)
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To: yoe
"Senate Democrats are blocking a measure to commend Pope Benedict XVI because of “controversial” religious language used in the text of the resolution ...: "Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken approvingly of the vibrance of religious faith in the United States, a faith nourished by a constitutional commitment to religious liberty that neither attempts to strip our public spaces of religious expression nor denies the ultimate source of our rights and liberties" // "Whereas Pope Benedict XVI has spoken out for the weak and vulnerable, witnessing to the value of each and every human life; ..."

Of course there isn't a true 'RAT party member alive who would agree with any pope's affirmation of what the Framers stood for and wrote into our Constitution:

Pope John XXIII, On Establishing Universal Peace In Truth, Justice, Charity, And Liberty, April 11, 1963 Excerpts:

"Man's personal dignity requires besides that he enjoy freedom and be able to make up his own mind when he acts.

In his association with his fellows, therefore, there is every reason why his recognition of rights, observance of duties, and many-sided collaboration with other men, should be primarily a matter of his own personal decision.

Each man should act on his own initiative, conviction, and sense of responsibility, not under the constant pressure of external coercion or enticement.

There is nothing human about a society that is welded together by force.

Far from encouraging, as it should, the attainment of man's progress and perfection, it is merely an obstacle to his freedom."

"Hence, a regime which governs solely or mainly by means of threats and intimidation or promises of reward, provides men with no effective incentive to work for the common good.

And even if it did, it would certainly be offensive to the dignity of free and rational human beings."

"Consequently, laws and decrees passed in contravention of the moral order, and hence of the divine will, can have no binding force in conscience, since 'it is right to obey God rather than men.' " ~

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"[Some are involved in] a disastrous confusion between the poor of the Scripture and the proletariat of Marx." ~ Pope Benedict XVI Theologies of Liberation

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Pope Benedict XVI, notes that proper stewardship of our environment is one of the individual Christian's responsibilities toward God - - - BUT only in this order:

"..an authentic...theology: [is] one that puts:

[1] God and the life of the spirit first,
[2] DIRECT charitable care of others second,
[3] and only then draws consequences for a just social order."

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C.S. Lewis: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under live robber barons than under omnipotent moral busibodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

As you ccan see, C.S. Lewis had the number of elitist do-gooder mentalities and the cynical opportunists that use them. bttt

37 posted on 04/17/2008 8:50:03 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Proud member of "Operation Chaos" having the T-shirt , ball cap and bumpersticker to prove it.)
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To: KarlInOhio

bump


38 posted on 04/17/2008 9:07:47 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: AU72

The democrats would veto “The Second Coming” if it was announced by Archangel Gabriel.

Not only can’t they do that, most won’t be going anyway. I know that is judgmental but I’m feeling that way.


39 posted on 04/17/2008 9:13:58 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: KarlInOhio

he sneaks in at night and whispers “Majority leader Reid, I don’t want this passed, but keep my name secret.”

Karl, they can’t help it. The Dems are usd to sneaking.


40 posted on 04/17/2008 9:16:02 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: yoe

You need to remember that opposition the church hierarchy, particularly the Pope is the basis of Liberation Theology. They include the Catholic Church as on of the great oppressors of the poor.


41 posted on 04/17/2008 9:17:55 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: yoe

Senate Democrats are blocking a measure to commend Pope Benedict XVI

Why?


42 posted on 04/17/2008 9:17:57 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: yoe

The anti-American, anti-Christian, Democrat party.


43 posted on 04/17/2008 9:23:13 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Matchett-PI

Gasp! Silly me, I “forgot” that Snob-oma and Queen Evita have gotten “religion” and both have deep “values beliefs” and a “vibrant faith in God.” Of course, both of them are so “wise” and “insightful” that every other Thursday when St. Gabriel the Archangel takes the day off, Snob-oma and Queen Evita deign to graciously assist the Almighty in running the universe!

Major /s


44 posted on 04/17/2008 9:48:21 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("Typical 'bitter' 'White Male" whose vote the Dems now desperately want so bad - HA!)
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To: yoe
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0408/Pope_resolution_stalled_over_human_life_language.html
Pope resolution passes after "life" language removed
45 posted on 04/17/2008 12:24:57 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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