"Hey Joe, you worthless, has-been, far-left, loonie, moonbat, Dummy-Rat, here's what I think of your proposal."
Posted on 04/17/2008 7:38:35 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
WASHINGTON--A prominent Senate Democrat on Wednesday said federal and local police should use custom software to monitor peer-to-peer networks for illegal activity, and he wants to spend $1 billion in tax dollars to help make that happen.
At an afternoon Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing about child exploitation on the Internet, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) said he was under the impression it's "pretty easy to pick out the person engaged in either transmitting or downloading violent scenes of rape, molestation" simply by looking at file names. He urged use of those techniques by investigators to help nab the most egregious offenders.
The software, dubbed "Operation Fairplay," was developed two years ago by Special Agent Flint Waters in the Wyoming Attorney General's Office, who, by Biden's description, is considered an expert in the field. The application is currently being used by all of the regional Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) task forces nationwide and internationally, Waters told the panel.
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My favorite quote: "Blaming this problem on peer-to-peer innovation is like blaming the interstate highway system when someone uses it to transport drugs." Hallelujah, someone in government has a clue!
Think the "unique serial numbers" might be MAC addresses?
Odd a Democrat would seriously suggest going after part of the deviant criminal base of his own party.
/mark
...and he wants to spend $1 billion in tax dollars to help make that happen.”
LOL
What a hypocrite! Spend billions on this but government wiretapping of terrorists is verboten?............
Now if only there were some tools to spoof a MAC address.
Big Brother is trying to be watching...
Let’s monitor P2P connections for “Biden-class” politians downloading papers + speeches for PLAGERIZATION.
How much would the 'Rats scream if you crossed out "Child porn" and put in "terrorist activities" for the wide net wiretap this will use?
Isn’t Hypocite Joe Biden’s middle name?
"Hey Joe, you worthless, has-been, far-left, loonie, moonbat, Dummy-Rat, here's what I think of your proposal."
If it were only that easy. This guy is a clueless idiot. A lot of this stuff gets posted on imageboards, where pics are identified by a number, not a filename, threads are deleted after a certain amount of time to save storage space, and traffic is so high they are nearly impossible to moderate. Also, it's not that hard to hide offending content in a seemingly innocuous file. And I would guess the people involved are probably smart enough not to name their loli-pr0nz something obvious.
4th Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
Biden is an idiot. A dangerous idiot.
‘It’s for the children.’ Basically decent folk who can be dupe by that line make up a much larger part of the electorate than do sexual deviates (that is, unless you’re one of the sort who define oral sex between husband and wife and mastrubation as ‘sexually deviate’, in which case I suspect ‘sexual deviates’ make up a majority of the population.)
It’s OK to violate privacy to make sure record companies get paid, but it is a Constitutional crisis if we monitor foreign terrorists who want to nuke the US. Makes perfect sense....if you are a moron.
An even better idea - connect all those internet cameras to a permanent federal monitoring station, and maybe we can cut down on smoking and other retrograde behavior by sending little warnings, or even fines. I’ll write to my congressman right away!
Perhaps Biden is actually more concerned with “political deviancy” with chiddrens ... (gasp!) things like home schooling, reading religious texts, praying, learning real American history, and teaching duh yutes it’s ok to say “NO” to political correctness.
The posters of such file content should simply switch strategies and name their files after certain Democratic nannny-senators.
HIS MIDDLE NAME USED TO BE “plagiarist”.........
If Biden is so concerned, maybe he should consider legislation against mobile/cell phones, too.
In the last few days, stories have hit the news about teens sending explicit pictures of themselves to classmates.
So, if a teen sends a pic of him/herself to another teen, is that child porn and which would be prosecuted? Or sould they both be prosecuted?
Maybe we should ban all mobile/cell phones. And computers. And cameras. And art supplies.
Idiots who can propose such things with a straight face are the legitimate prey of the ready opportunist, especially when they are well-funded idiots.
Even if that were true, I suspect it would stop being true if he gets the legislation he wants passed. Watch out when you open "Margie's Oatmeal Cookie Recipe.doc"!
Hey Joe:
Just read about your proposal to monitor P2P for Illegal files.
Will that include searching for people who "plagiarize" other peoples material and quotes, like maybe a "law review article for a paper" like you did in your first year at law school?
Or perhaps, other people's speeches like those of British Labour leader Neil Kinnock and US Senator Robert F. Kennedy?
Why don't you stick to things you know best, like obstructing judicial nominees, you far-left moonbat.
As bad as my too loonie Senate Creeps (Leahy and Sanders) are, they have not yet reached the apex of their senility, as apparently you have.
Sincerely,
My first thought also. Maybe Bush should come out and say he would approve IF he can listen in on terrorists. They all know sooner or later they will intercept Carter or Murtha or some "Super Delegate" talking to Al Quida or Chavez or somebody. 90% of the child porn downloaders are probably Dems also.
Joe Biden's complaints about anyone copying other peoples work is like hearing Clinton preach about telling the truth.
At least Biden is stepping up to the plate to prove that being an idiot isn’t a hinderance to political office...
Who's keeping score,
With the scorekeeper's wife,
While the scorekeeper's out,
Keeping score?
The question for Biden: Who's gonna monitor the monitors?
I believe it can be done.
Quick google search says it can be done fairly easily too.
“Now if only there were some tools to spoof a MAC address.”
“I believe it can be done.”
It’s very easy to do. I think he left the sarcasm tags off.
All this is going to do is hurt the people who respect the law. Even if a PC is hosting illegal stuff how do we know if it isn’t being used as a mule.
My daughter’s PC recently got very slow, the antivirus programs didn’t see anything wrong, but using low level disk tools (Western Digital diagnostics disk), I found a 4G hidden partition that was hosting a porn site. A small driver in the PC’s boot up sequence accessed it and fielded all internatet packets to and from the secret partition. Killing the driver and formatting the secret partition took care of it, but how many other people’s PCs are hosting similar hacker stuff or movies or music?
I understand the concerns. I ignored the lib politician in the article and read the parts from the FBI guy. It looks like they are trying to do this the right way: Identify suspect files, lawfully obtain a subpoena, conduct an investigation. In your case innocence was obvious. I can’t see how the FBI can be effective and not at least do this.
I think we’re so jaded by the RIAA’s tactics that any kind of monitoring of P2P networks sends up huge red flags.
Fox, meet henhouse.
You really have no reasonable expectation of privacy on a filesharing network.
Prezackly. We don’t trust them. We shouldn’t trust them. But that doesn’t seem to stop them.
Wiretapping is an invasion of privacy and thus needs legal authorization to perform. This is the equivalent of a guy on a street corner with a pile of CDs to give away and a sign showing all the files on them and their sizes. It isn't an invasion of privacy to stand there and read the sign.
That is a danger. The copyright cartel is constantly offloading its responsibility to enforce its copyrights onto the government.
How much would the 'Rats scream if you crossed out "Child porn" and put in "terrorist activities" for the wide net wiretap this will use?
We already monitor such sites. Sorry, but you have no expectation of privacy if you put up an open web site or use P2P, just as you should expect that anything you write here will be read by anybody.
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Why? Anytime your traffic passes through a layer 3 gateway the MAC address is going to change.
Crypto P2P networks are the way to go about defeating this police state crap.
No I don’t. But it’s what the government intends to do as a follow up to obtaining the information they just gathered on you that concerns me.
That won't help in the current state if the FBI is one of the nodes. Other anonymization methods, such as having no direct file transfers, give everyone plausible deniability since any file they get from you didn't originate from you and there is no way you could have known what the file was.
Of course that wouldn't apply in a dedicated kiddie porn P2P network, since everyone is on it for that specific reason and should be arrested.
What problem do you have with a lawfully obtained subpoena for the user's identity, and then a search warrant for the user's computer? I do have concern that they may use jack-boot thug tactics, and I hope they do this knowing that this investigative technique is liable to produce false positives.
...and he wants to spend $1 billion in tax dollars to help make that happen.”
LOL
Not nearly enough by at least Two (2) orders of magnitude, if you could do it at all.
Waht an A@@clown Biden is.
Oh, yeah, like somebody thinks that! I'm sorta leaning toward the belief that it's a job requirement.
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