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D.C. Is Fourth in Nation in Incarcerating Residents, Report Says
Washington Post ^ | April 17, 2008 | Robert E. Pierre

Posted on 04/17/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by george76

The District has the fourth-highest incarceration rate in the nation, according to a report that says jails nationwide are bursting at the seams even though crime is nearly as low as it has been in 30 years.

The report by the Justice Policy Institute, a Washington-based group that focuses on what it considers an over-reliance on incarceration...

In the District, 3,214 inmates are under city control at the D.C. jail and contract facilities. That is 553 people per 100,000 residents. Only Philadelphia and two Tennessee counties, Davidson and Shelby, lock up residents at a higher rate.

The numbers do not include people in state prisons on more serious charges or, in the case of the District, the nearly 7,000 inmates from the city being held in federal prisons. As part of a deal with Congress a decade ago, District prisoners are spread across 75 institutions in 33 states. Activists have been fighting for years to get Congress to pay more attention to what happens to those prisoners sent out of state.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Pennsylvania; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: bluezone; corruption; crime; criminals; dc; urban
This is a bad thing ?

"even though crime is nearly as low as it has been in 30 years. "

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1 posted on 04/17/2008 1:04:07 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

How can this be? D.C.’s run by blacks.


2 posted on 04/17/2008 1:06:20 PM PDT by Eurale
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To: george76

According to the libs, if there are fewer crimes, then there should be fewer people in jail. They don’t seem to get it that criminals don’t commit just one crime.


3 posted on 04/17/2008 1:06:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: george76
Don't ya just love the cognitive dissonance of "jails nationwide are bursting at the seams even though crime is nearly as low as it has been in 30 years"? Always called for the response "gee, I wonder why." Where do failed education majors go, j-school?
4 posted on 04/17/2008 1:07:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: NonValueAdded; SunkenCiv; jazusamo

Liberals love to let the criminals go free.


5 posted on 04/17/2008 1:10:24 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

This article is downright dishones. It says crime is the lowest in 30 years. Well then, have they taken to just locking up innocent people? Or could it be that they are just more efficient at catching the criminals?

The article acts as if locking up criminals means that the city (or the counties to which it is compared) are at fault because of this. Why don’t they ask what is wrong with a population which produces so many criminals? Why are there so many incarceration-worthy people?

They advocate other alternatives to incarceration. Just what do they suggest, and is there anything that could be as efficient at preventing predators from attacking the public than locking up the wrong-doers (except maybe executing them)?


6 posted on 04/17/2008 1:12:55 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: george76

D.C. needs to do what they do in Durham, N.C. Arrest the thugs and put them on probation. A week later, arrest them again and put them on probation. Repeat endlessly until they kill someone.

The two creeps who kidnapped and killed the college coed there were both out on probation. At least one of them also killed a graduate student a few weeks earlier.


7 posted on 04/17/2008 1:19:19 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Where would D. C. show up if all the politicians who belong in jail were incarcerated?


8 posted on 04/17/2008 1:24:51 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: ladyjane
You forgot: Arrest somebody else for a crime that didn't happen and drag them through court and media for months while real perps cycle in and out through the probation machine.

Lather, rinse, and run for re-election.

Well, it used to work....

9 posted on 04/17/2008 1:29:33 PM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: george76

Robert E. Pierre - The man incapapable of logical thought. That first sentence is a doosy.


10 posted on 04/17/2008 1:29:34 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: ladyjane; neverdem; traviskicks

Arrest the thugs and put them on probation. A week later, arrest them again and put them on probation. Repeat endlessly until they kill someone.

yup


11 posted on 04/17/2008 1:39:13 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
jails nationwide are bursting at the seams even though crime is nearly as low as it has been in 30 years

Hint to Justice Policy Institute: If they'd lock up the rest of the criminals, the crime rate would drop to zero. That would be justice for daily parade of crime victims in DC.

12 posted on 04/17/2008 1:57:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: george76

Simple explanation. Washington is run by lawyers these days. When you make laws that if you take a green *hit instead of a brown one you get fined or go to jail, you’ll see the prisons fill up, even though violent crime has come down.

New Hampshire created habitual offender driving laws in the early 90’s and tightened the amount of ‘points’ before your license was rescinded and you were classified as a habitual offender.

If you were caught driving as a habitual offender, you received on year mandatory jail time and served eight months in the county jail. Of course, as habitual offenders still drove to get to work, you quickly caught because New Hampshire derives much revenues from petty driving offences and you were incarcerated.

Some here will simply say follow the law. Others like me say don’t create such stupid laws that cost taxpayers huge sums to incarcerate for petty crimes. Liberals do this the most and began creeping into New Hampshire’s legislature, I suspect due to urban sprawl from Massachussets.

I moved to Maine where I pay for lots of welfare rats in the form of State income taxes, but don’t have to worry if I took a green *hit this morning.


13 posted on 04/17/2008 1:58:47 PM PDT by quant5
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To: george76
"even though crime is nearly as low as it has been in 30 years. "

The US population has increased by 100 million since 1970. Crime rates may be low in terms of percentages, but actual numbers may be high straining prison facilities.

14 posted on 04/17/2008 2:03:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: thulldud

You’re right. I should have mentioned the horrendous treatment the lacrosse players received at the hands of the Durham district attorney and the Durham so-called leaders.


15 posted on 04/17/2008 2:03:29 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: NewRomeTacitus; wardaddy

Wow, look, we’re actually beating DC in crime...


16 posted on 04/17/2008 2:06:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: george76

Washington D.C. is a cesspool of violent criminality and corruption. The only reason it functions at all is because of the handouts and the modest supervison of the Federal government.


17 posted on 04/17/2008 2:31:50 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: george76
D.C. Is Residents are Fourth in Nation in Incarcerating Residents Committing Crimes

All fixed!

18 posted on 04/17/2008 3:06:13 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: george76; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
19 posted on 04/17/2008 5:33:43 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Know et al
Where would D. C. show up if all the politicians who belong in jail were incarcerated?

Do the politicians liw in the city itself? Maybe they are not casting the net wide enough.

20 posted on 04/17/2008 5:33:44 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (So you want to be President - it's like reality TV, only real)
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To: ladyjane
D.C. needs to do what they do in Durham, N.C. Arrest the thugs and put them on probation.

They can't even do the first part. TWO OUT OF THREE MURDERS in DC never have an associated arrest, although the former police chief said he was sure that the ones they arrested were responsible for a large percent of the unsolved cases. Gotta catch 'em before you can cook 'em.

21 posted on 04/17/2008 8:33:38 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: traviskicks

uh duh,

have you ever driven around the ne part of dc?


22 posted on 04/17/2008 8:44:16 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks george76.

http://www.moonbattery.com/


23 posted on 04/17/2008 11:06:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

But what about former mayor Marion Barry’s quote on the subject?

“Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country.”


24 posted on 04/18/2008 2:51:49 AM PDT by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from the Balkans.)
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To: george76

Shelby County is Memphis. Davidson County is Nashville.

I’m unsurprised to see Memphis in that list. I am a little surprised to see Nashville there, with DC, Philly, and Memphis. Any ideas why Nashville has such a high incarceration rate? Are they just doing it right, vs. having a relatively lawless population (which is the problem I perceive with DC, Philly, and Memphis).


25 posted on 04/18/2008 2:58:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: ken21

For as violent as that place is it’s still tame compared to SE DC


26 posted on 04/18/2008 7:00:47 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: docbnj
" Why don’t they ask what is wrong with a population which produces so many criminals?"

You can't ask that question, it ultimately leads to the 'F' word....lack of Fathers!!

27 posted on 04/18/2008 7:07:16 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: george76

“Thank God we got penetentiaries.”—Richard Pryor


28 posted on 04/18/2008 7:09:58 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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