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Ben Stein vs. Sputtering Atheists
Media Research Center ^ | April 17, 2008 | L. Brent Bozell III

Posted on 04/17/2008 4:07:06 PM PDT by Aristotelian

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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

‘”Evolutionism”, is defined by the OED as “The theory of evolution, evolutionary assumptions or principles”. Creationists tend to use the term evolutionism in a misleading sense in order to suggest that evolution and creationism are equal in a philosophical debate.’


41 posted on 04/17/2008 5:07:28 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: tokenatheist
The theory of evolution, evolutionary assumptions or principles

That's exactly how I'm using it. Evolutionism is a philosophical approach which evolutionists use to interpret data which, if not viewed through their philosophical lens, are not readily apparent as supportive of evolution and its allied assumptions.

42 posted on 04/17/2008 5:11:21 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Hey they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: newfreep
Science doesn't deal in proof it deals in evidence and the evidence of the power of selective pressure to mold and shape a species has been observed throughout human history. A beagle a dachshund and a wolfhound were all once a wolf.
43 posted on 04/17/2008 5:14:47 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

What do you mean by “philosophical approach which evolutionists use to interpret data which, if not viewed through their philosophical lens, are not readily apparent as supportive of evolution and its allied assumptions.”


44 posted on 04/17/2008 5:17:16 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

More credible than Ben Stein who claims that Richard Sternberg was fired from the Smithsonian Institution.

Ben Stein’s pile of propaganda would make Michael Moore blush.


45 posted on 04/17/2008 5:19:11 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: tokenatheist

” Evolution doesn’t cover the origin of life. That is another field of science “

LOL Pricless ! You don`t get to set the terms of the debate since logic demands that evolutionists prove how the first protein made itself which logically led to monkies becoming men.

Darwin has been proven wrong so many times it`s now become redundant, origin of baleen in whales being one.

Even Dawkins noted that scientific theories (neo darwinism) can rely on only so much “luck” before they cease to be credible.

Nice try junoir.


46 posted on 04/17/2008 5:19:49 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Aristotelian

save


47 posted on 04/17/2008 5:21:32 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Bommer
Where were these idiots when Fartandhype 911 came out to debunk Moore-on?

I am surprised you missed this piece in Scientific American where they debunk the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories.

Try Again!

48 posted on 04/17/2008 5:25:34 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Bommer
Here is a link to the Scientific American piece debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1417175/posts

49 posted on 04/17/2008 5:27:10 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: tokenatheist
Provide a test for your favorite deity and then he/she/it/they can be considered a part of science.

Religion has always been about faith. You as the "scientist" are the one who must disprove religion. After all, science deals with facts and incontrovertible rules, right?
Therefore....YOU prove the beginning of life. Your whole "theory" stands or falls on that.
As for me and my house. We will trust the Lord.
50 posted on 04/17/2008 5:29:21 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: rickomatic

The theory of evolution doesn’t concern itself with the origin of life.


51 posted on 04/17/2008 5:31:40 PM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Pricless indeed. A lightning bolt manufactured the first protein from nothing ! ?

Priceless.

Amino acid, snoogums. It helps to learn before you pontificate.
52 posted on 04/17/2008 5:32:55 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: maine-iac7
Also, why isn't lightening still creating life? Has it lost it's 'spark'?
Holy moly you're dumb.
53 posted on 04/17/2008 5:35:42 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: Para-Ord.45
LOL Pricless ! You don`t get to set the terms of the debate since logic demands that evolutionists prove how the first protein made itself which logically led to monkies becoming men.
NO. You don't understand science at all do you? Go learn about empiricism and the scientific method and get back to me.

Secondary education would do you good snoogums.

54 posted on 04/17/2008 5:39:03 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: trumandogz

You forgot to post the March 1974 issue of the mag that states we have entered a period of global cooling that will soon end the human race. If this is your bible than I see you only post when it favors your postion and you do not post its errors.


55 posted on 04/17/2008 5:39:51 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: ketsu

” Go learn about empiricism and the scientific method and get back to me.”

LOL! Can it get even more priceless ?

Darwin himself on OoS, “ Thank you heartily for what you say about my book; but you will be greatly disappointed; it will be grievously too hypothetical.”


56 posted on 04/17/2008 5:41:42 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
LOL! Can it get even more priceless ?

Darwin himself on OoS, “ Thank you heartily for what you say about my book; but you will be greatly disappointed; it will be grievously too hypothetical.”

:rolleyes: NO U snoogums. Can you even state the central thesis of the origin of species and how it was developed? Fundamentally you're so woefully ignorant that you can't even understand *why* you're stupid.
57 posted on 04/17/2008 5:44:39 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: tongass kid
I did not ever say that Scientific American is infallible but rather suggested that they had little difficulty pointing out the lies and distortions in the Ben Stein Propaganda piece.
58 posted on 04/17/2008 5:50:44 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Aristotelian

I may actually go see this movie...I haven’t been to a movies since Forrest Gump. I just cannot support Hollywood with my hard earned money..I hate Hollywood and the Morons that make and ‘’star’’ in the movies


59 posted on 04/17/2008 5:51:51 PM PDT by democratsaremyenemy
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To: ketsu

” Amino acid, snoogums. It helps to learn before you pontificate. “

LOL The priceless waif continues with it`s nothings.

AA`s come in 3D chains.MIT biochemists already tackled this.The odds remain.Calculated odds of finding a folded protein are about 1 in 10 to the 65 power.

NOW , when will the atheist/darwinists prove a single protein arose unaided.

You are at once, priceless yet worthless.


60 posted on 04/17/2008 5:53:56 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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