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Is Obama Giving Hillary the Finger Here?
Stop the ACLU ^ | 17-Apr-08 | John Stephenson

Posted on 04/17/2008 8:20:20 PM PDT by Jay777

I’m sure no one can pin-point this down as a certainty, but doesn’t it look like there is a pause for dramatic effect. His finger goes up right after he says that Hillary was in her element. There is also a cheer immediately after it. The video has been making the rounds of some pro-Hillary leftwing blogs, and on one hand its convincing. On the other, I'm unsure. I was hoping Freepers could help me determine.

Check out the video.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: finger

1 posted on 04/17/2008 8:20:20 PM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777

yep.


2 posted on 04/17/2008 8:21:41 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jay777

It seems certain that the women sitting behind him (on his right) thought so.
susie


3 posted on 04/17/2008 8:21:49 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Jay777

Yes.


4 posted on 04/17/2008 8:23:29 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Jay777

Yes.


5 posted on 04/17/2008 8:24:43 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Part of the "Vast Typical White Guy Conspiracy")
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To: Jay777

The first time I noticed this gesture was Will Smith giving it to Tommy Lee Jones in the movie Men In Black. I’ve been using it since. :)


6 posted on 04/17/2008 8:26:34 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Part of the "Vast Typical White Guy Conspiracy")
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To: LiberConservative

No doubt. You scratch your nose with your index finger, not your social finger.


7 posted on 04/17/2008 8:26:40 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: Jay777

Is there footage out there of him scratching with his middle finger on other occasions? Maybe its just something he does.

Or maybe not.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 8:27:34 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: Jay777

No question about it. Watched it a couple of times. When one takes into account his words and the timing, that was no simple face scratch. Obama clearly flipped Hillary the bird.


9 posted on 04/17/2008 8:30:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

He certainly sat in the Wright pew for this to be the case. After buying into (and underwriting) that trash for 20 years, how could you NOT have pent-up racist hatred just waiting to surface?


10 posted on 04/17/2008 8:35:04 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: SpaceBar

I updated the post now. After seeing the video from another angle I determined it is manufactured controversy...however easy to see why people would think what they did. The other angle shows that he was actually using two fingers at the questioned point. I appreciate everyone’s help.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 8:36:02 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

Well, he got it from Will Smith.

Will used the same technique to flip off Tommy Lee Jones in MIB


12 posted on 04/17/2008 8:36:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jay777

No.


13 posted on 04/17/2008 8:36:56 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: Jay777

Definite middle finger. Executed at the exact right moment with wavy movement that says: This is to you, B*TCH!

The fingernail is not even hitting the skin to call it a scratch.


14 posted on 04/17/2008 8:37:00 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: Jay777

Without a doubt.Yes


15 posted on 04/17/2008 8:37:10 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Jay777

Hm. I thought so. And so, apparently, did a lot of people there.

And if so, that is crude and stupid. Lack of self-control.


16 posted on 04/17/2008 8:38:06 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Jay777
Regardless, the timing of Obama’s touching of his face is a tell that he isn't completely comfortable with what he is saying for some reason.

It will be interesting to watch him for this “tell” from now on.

17 posted on 04/17/2008 8:38:19 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: LiberConservative

Darn you.!

: )

I just finished watching MIB, right before I made the post.

How weird a coincidence is that?


18 posted on 04/17/2008 8:38:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jay777

What explains his other non-verbal actions?

Like dusting his clothes off?
Then wiping his shoes?

Oh I think anyone with any street cred knows exactly what the combination of those actions means.

TO THOSE WHO STOPPED after he gave her the ‘salute’, watch the rest.

It is enlightening.


19 posted on 04/17/2008 8:42:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jay777

Yes he did! She earned it!


20 posted on 04/17/2008 8:43:36 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: Jay777

He did it. The crowd recognized he did it.


21 posted on 04/17/2008 8:45:06 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Jay777

“The other angle shows that he was actually using two fingers at the questioned point.”

Yes. Because only using one finger would be provable.

Two fingers with one slightly raised, is a well-known ‘salute’, and others have pointed out some examples like MIB.

Get back to work, slacker!

: )


22 posted on 04/17/2008 8:45:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: SandyInSeattle
Is there footage out there of him scratching with his middle finger on other occasions? Maybe its just something he does.

Or maybe not.

Most charismatic and well polished speakers would have corrected that in their public speaking by the time they got to the level of bamboozling an entire nation.

23 posted on 04/17/2008 8:49:59 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Carling; All

I read a book about body language a while back. It was very interesting.

A person touching, scratching or rubbing their nose is exhibiting deception. I have tried to determine if that is true or not. Don’t know.

But there were a few other mannerisms described in the book that DID fit perfectly, and I observe it all the time. Someone crossing their legs at the ankles is feeling anxiety. Someone crossing their legs at the angles and folding their arms across the chest is an even higher level of anxiety.

I worked in direct patient care for a long time, and was able to observe it in people readily. Then, it occurred to me one day at a dentist’s office that I had my ankles crossed and arms folded. I was just laying there in the chair waiting to get started, and looked down. Ruh Roh.

But you know what I found? I was able to reduce my anxiety by uncrossing my ankles and arms. Just amazing that it worked.


24 posted on 04/17/2008 8:50:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Yeah...that came from Jay Z.
25 posted on 04/17/2008 8:51:03 PM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

And these people want to be in charge.


26 posted on 04/17/2008 8:55:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jay777

It certainly looks like he did it on purpose and the reaction of the crowd seems to confirm it.


27 posted on 04/17/2008 9:08:21 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Jay777

OK.

I got the “you number one GI” salute.
Then the ‘brushoff’ , wiping at his clothes.
Then the next thing was wiping at his shoes.

Was that meaning “wipe you off my shoe”?

Or “shine my shoe, whitey”?

I couldn’t tell.


28 posted on 04/17/2008 9:11:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jay777

Boring.


29 posted on 04/17/2008 9:23:36 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Jay777

Nobody deserves it more than her.


30 posted on 04/17/2008 9:26:13 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Jay777
If that's the best b.hussein.o can do to get even with kosovo rose, then he needs to save his milk money to pay the playground bully to beat her up...
31 posted on 04/17/2008 9:34:58 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Jay777

He can give her all five, right across the eyes as Al Bundy used to say.


32 posted on 04/17/2008 9:41:59 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Jay777
Flipping off whitey by several means is a big joke to some..
Maybe white people especially women ARE stupid..
33 posted on 04/17/2008 10:20:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jay777
yep = real ‘presidential’
34 posted on 04/17/2008 11:18:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: Jay777

Just watch the black guy in the orange shirt on the left in the other video. He picks it up right away. A typical white person might miss it.


35 posted on 04/18/2008 2:36:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Jay777

Clearly orchestrated maneuver - Yes.


36 posted on 04/18/2008 2:41:04 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jay777
IS OBAMA GIVING HITLERY THE FINGER?

If not he should be.
She gave him the finger a long time ago and still does.

37 posted on 04/18/2008 2:56:50 AM PDT by Voter#537 (We must make sure our Brave Military gets the support to Win This WAR. Not another Viet Nam.)
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To: Jay777
Obama finger
38 posted on 04/18/2008 5:07:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Jay777

No, Hillary is not good enough to deserve the finger.


39 posted on 04/18/2008 1:10:05 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: Vicki
It certainly looks like he did it on purpose and the reaction of the crowd seems to confirm it.

Also, notice that what he's saying is non-sequential = he was too intent on executing his 12-year old snotty kid gesture...

He can't chew gum and talk at the same time.

Is this how he'll 'unite' people?

Good God, people, we need to be sure this little twerp of a puppet doesn't get anywhere near the WH.

He has no substance. He's merely a Polished, Programmed Puppet - and it is the strings we need to follow back to his puppet masters. ... Which doesn't even include the Rev. Wrong - he is just his Svengali handler, keeping him in line. Others, far worse, are pulling the strings.

40 posted on 04/18/2008 2:21:27 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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