Posted on 04/18/2008 8:30:22 PM PDT by The_Republican
Democratic leaders are becoming increasingly worried about the long-term consequences of the drawn-out and contentious presidential nomination race between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. In the past few weeks a number of prominent Democratic elected officials, including Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, have called on Hillary Clinton to consider ending her campaign in the near future on the grounds that by staying in the race she is damaging the party's chances of winning the presidency in November. Pundits and journalists have also argued that the extended nomination battle between Clinton and Obama is allowing the presumptive Republican nominee, John McCain, to get a head start on the general election campaign while the two Democrats are training their fire on each other.
Recent public opinion polls appear to support the argument that the extended nomination battle between Clinton and Obama is helping John McCain. Despite a national political climate that is very unfavorable for the Republican Party due to President Bush's low approval ratings and an economy that appears to be on the verge of a recession, John McCain has been either leading or running even with both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in recent national polls. In the April 7th Gallup tracking poll, for example, McCain was leading Clinton 47 percent to 45 percent and tied with Obama at 45 percent each.
Part of the explanation for John McCain's relatively strong performance in recent polls is that his reputation as a maverick and a moderate allows him to appeal to some independents and Democrats who don't particularly care for President Bush. In addition, however, there is considerable evidence that McCain is benefitting from defections by Clinton and Obama supporters who say that they would rather vote for the Republican candidate than for the other Democrat. According to the Gallup tracking poll, for example, almost 30 percent of Clinton supporters say that they would vote for McCain over Obama and almost 20 percent of Obama supporters say that they would vote for McCain over Clinton.
The key question, of course, is whether Democrats who are disappointed by the outcome of the nomination race will actually carry through on these intentions and vote for the Republican presidential candidate in November. The answer to this question will undoubtedly depend on how the nomination contest is resolved and whether the losing candidate is perceived by his or her supporters to be strongly supporting the winning candidate. Providing that this happens, however, large-scale Democratic defections to John McCain would appear to be highly unlikely.
Recent elections in the United States have been characterized by very high levels of partisan voting. In 2004, according to data from the American National Election Study, over 90 percent of voters who identified with or leaned toward the Republican Party cast their ballot for George Bush and almost 90 percent of voters who identified with or leaned toward the Democratic Party cast their ballot for John Kerry. The results were similar in the 2006 congressional elections, except that Democratic voters were a little more loyal to their party's candidates while Republican voters were a little less loyal.
Figure 1. Rate of Democratic Defection in Presidential Elections by Decade
Party loyalties were not always this strong. Democrats in particular were once notorious for defecting to the Republican candidate in presidential elections. As the evidence displayed in Figure 1 shows, in the three presidential elections between 1972 and 1980, an average of almost 30 percent of Democratic identifiers voted for the Republican presidential candidate. In 1984 and 1988, Democratic defections were also quite high -- almost 20 percent. Since 1992, however, the Democratic defection rate has been much lower -- less than 10 percent, which is about the same as the Republican defection rate.
Figure 2. Trend in Democratic Identification by Ideology
Why have Democrats been much more loyal to their party's presidential candidates in recent elections? It's not just that the Democratic candidates have been more appealing -- it's also a result of an ideological realignment that has taken place within the American electorate. As the data displayed in Figure 2 show, since the 1970s Democratic identifiers have been trending to the left. During the seventies, almost a third of all conservative voters identified with the Democratic Party. By the first decade of the 21st century, only about one-seventh of conservative voters identified with the Democrats. Meanwhile, Democratic identification remained stable at about 60 percent among moderate voters and rose from 84 percent to 90 percent among liberal voters.
Figure 3. Rate of Democratic Defection in 1992-2004 Presidential Elections by Ideology
The ideological realignment of the American electorate since the 1970s is largely responsible for the dramatic increase in loyalty among Democratic voters (It almost certainly goes back further but the NES surveys did not include an ideology question before 1972). During the seventies and eighties, there were large numbers of conservative "Nixon Democrats" and "Reagan Democrats" who were willing to cross party lines to vote for Republican presidential candidates. Today, however, there are relatively few of these conservative Democrats left. As the results displayed in Figure 3 show, the defection rate among conservative Democrats has remained considerably higher than the defection rate among moderate or liberal Democrats. Almost one-fourth of conservative Democrats voted for Republican presidential candidates between 1992 and 2004. But conservatives make up a much smaller share of the Democratic electorate today: conservatives made up only nine percent of all Democratic voters in 2004 compared with 24 percent in 1972. In contrast, liberals made up 57 percent of all Democratic voters in 2004 compared with only 38 percent in 1972.
Today's Democratic electorate is very different from the Democratic electorate of the 1970s and 1980s -- it is almost as solidly liberal as the Republican electorate is solidly conservative. Four years ago John Kerry, a very liberal Democrat running against an incumbent Republican president in a time of war received almost 90 percent of the vote among Democratic identifiers. This November, barring a major disaster at the Democratic convention, it is highly unlikely that many Democratic voters will cross party lines to vote for John McCain. It is equally unlikely that many Republican voters will cross party lines to vote for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. In contrast to the fluidity and unpredictability that has characterized the nomination contests in both parties, the voting patterns in November will be highly predictable and consistent with those seen in other recent general elections -- close to 90 percent of all votes will be cast by party identifiers for their own party's presidential candidate. Whichever party turns out more of its own supporters on Election Day is likely to emerge as the winner.
If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination she will find a way to sabotage Obama.
My parents who have never voted Republican in their lives have both stated that they’re going to vote for McCain because they think he’s the only candidate running that they feel comfortable with running the nation.
Plus the excellent service of our Republican Governor Matt Blunt has made them reconsider their political views somewhat. :-)
I worry about MO being vulnerable this year. Obambi ran strong there.
What’s up with MO in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION CYCLE, running to some Judge just before polls close and get hour or two hour extentions? How come rest of the Country can get their votes in allotted time? Even in Dems’ Primary, they STILL needed extra time? What’s up with that?
I think disappointed dems will stay home.
If Obama gets the nomination, white feminist women, and their whipped husbands will not vote Obama. If Obama gets the nommination, Blacks will not vote Hillary.
Either way, McCain gets it.
In spite of the republicans who will never vote McCain.
Yes, they will. We strict-constructionists, however, will still be in favor of hanging him for treason.
She has to cut him off at the knees. She won’t allow him any where near her White House. By destroying him, she automaticaly becomes the Democrat front runner in 2012.
Now, we are counting on Hillary to bring Obama down? I love it as much as any conservative, but what ever brings one of them down - builds the other one up. These are precarious times we live in.
It appears disappointed Republicans won't.
Will ANY democRATS vote for McCain, disappointed or not?
OF COURSE NOT! Party before Country!
The liberal Republicans are dreaming if they think they are going to get a warm hug and a vote from any registered democRAT. They vote the party ticket. It’s like the old joke about the snake who bit the man who saved him: “That’s what I DO! You knew that when you picked me up! What could you have been thinking?”
Oldplayer
Yes, she will. She does not want him to win. She is looking to 2012...and if he became President her chance is gone for good. She knows this. The Clintons did not want Kerry to win either.
Isn’t this all beside the point?
Look what we have going on here..compliments of the RNC - Senator McCain.
I respect the man, the man who chose his brothers in arms against early release. I totally respect McCain.
Oh Lord, I don;t know what I’m saying...but I bet some of you do.
The point is many Dems will vote McCain. The other point is...in 2012 he will be 76 and will not be re-elected.
Enter Hillary.
I dunno. Poll numbers say that 1 out of 3 Democrat voters will vote for McCain in November if Obama is the nominee. I don’t know how much to trust polls, of course, but I suspect that there will be moderate Democrats out there that may very well switch to McCain.
My husband works with a number of guys - they’re in a union - and they’re all Democrats. (except my husband, well he was til I got ahold of him! LOL!) They’ve all mentioned to him at one time or another that it looks like they’re going to have to vote Republican for the first time in their lives.
Maybe.
But, should we really worry about a future that may or may not happen?
In the present time, this election..we have something to worry about. Think about.
We have at least 4 years of thinking about the furure of this Country no matter who is elected.
Look at our choices, the only difference is party, not “theology”.
McCain is pro life.
McCain is pro Israel.
McCain is tough on national defense.
It is a no brainer.
However, the media is in the tank for B.O.
He has alot of cash, and he is running ads 24/7 in NC.
Of course, both Dems promise to raise taxes during a recession which would be devastating.
McCain is a good alternative for Dems, yes.
Does that say something about McCain, or does that say something about....us?
Now, conservatives are relying on the moonbat vote to keep their man in? Think about it.
hi to a fellow show-me-state republican! I’m in KC, and you?
McCain is a no brainer.
I’m not aginst him, no way.
But lets look at what you just said: McCain is a NO BRAINER.
And that is our choice. The one we must make. This is what we are reduced to.
Read it again.
I listed the main reasons why one would vote for him.
And, yes because the Dems are in disarray, he will attract some Dem voters as well.
This is the absolute truth. Blacks will either vote for McCain, vote for the third party, or stay home, is what they say. That's how pissed they'll be. They will feel totally and completely betrayed. It will really damage the Democrat party. I hear this on a daily basis on local talk radio (Detroit), other than Kwame, it's all they talk about. They are getting the sense that Hillery just might steal it, and the anger is rising. It could get real ugly for the Democrats with their black voting block.
I think most all republicans will, in the final analysis, vote for McCain simply because the alternative is a horrific prospect in the real world for the country. It is what it is and we simply must deal with realities. We can’t cut off our noses to spite our faces - far too much is at stake.
No, I don’t believe it’ll necessarily build the other one up - there’s still such a thing as a “clean win” in the public’s perception. And neither one will be, particularly, HRC’s over BHO.
Like I said, and I hope you saw, I have the utmost respect for Senator McCain.
Any man that would deny his own release from a prison in Vietnam, for the sake of Country and his fellow Soldier, is high on my list of most admired.
There is nothing wrong with Senator McCain as our President when it comes to foreign policy, protecting this Country.
I simply looked forward to the next election and I looked at the other choices we had. McCain is a Liberal on domestic policy, not unlike Hillary.
Why not? After all, he is one of them. My question is "Will conservative Republicans vote for McCain?" I know I won't.
“WILL DISAPPOINTED DEMS VOTE FOR MCCAIN?”
Don’t count on it.
Regardless of what you think about McCain, consider who will command our military.
Come out, vote McCain!
CINC...Commander In Chief. The President commands our military, the last great hope for this country.
If you stay home, I hope you're prepared to tell our young servicemen (and women) walking through your local airport that they are now commanded by Obama because you were irrational.
When you find the perfect conservative to run for President, you let me know. I will work my ass off for him. until then, be realistic.
I agree. It is one thing I understood about McCain, he crosses party lines.
But, do I really want someone that crosses party lines? Am I that stuck on party?
Oh....I'm sure there are a few purists out there, who tend to call themselves conservatives, but the real problem is that McCain is not even a republican.
The RNC pushed this mess on me, and I am in a retaliatory mood at present.
At this point, beggers can not be choosers, not even to make a statement. McCain is what we have. The other choices are unthinkable.
Vote McCain. Hold your nose if you must. Now is NOT the time to play the moral reletivaty vote.
Me too.
They have us by the balls.
They know it and rejoce in it.
But that is not the point.
We need to play their game...so we can win in the end.
I would surmise that the kooks will either stay home and get stoned or “hold their nose” and vote for the Hildabeast, should B. Hussein not get the nomination...
...I’ll read the rest of the article after I get off work tonite.
Tell me about it. I’m not happy about McCain either, but...oh well. Best choice of the three.
Obama, especially, will destroy our military. He said he would. Al Qaida has declared their objective. Do you you believe they mean it? Of course, you do. Believe Obama when he says he will dismantle our nuclear deterrence, leaving us helpless.
I would love to have a true conservative as President. People, it aint gonna happen this go-around.
McCain can't make it even with 100% of Republican support. His problem is that he needs most Conservatives, and a decent chunk of Independents. He probably will get the required number of Independents, as well as some dissatisfied dims, BUT- Conservatives are less than thrilled, and just might stay home in droves. I haven't seen any reaching across the aisle to Conservatives yet, except to poke us in the eye.
Is McCain a communist???
Because, I know a couple of communists. They're running for President.
Go ahead, stay home. You really don't think you're helping Obama? You must not see him as I do.
Our Government is corrupt.
If we were our forefathers, there would have been a cease and desist order served several years ago.
But we are too comfortable, we have unrealistic expectations, we believe our government will always do the right thing.
Right now, we can still vote the lesser of 3 evils, McCain. Because we are not ready to identify all of the evil.
The Jews in Germany didn’t say anything either.
Very well said. Thanks.
I just watched a commercial with Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi making love to each other on a couch and encouraging all of us to fight global climate change.
I’m sorry, but if voting for McCain is the only way we are going to save America, America is beyond saving.
However, I do not believe that this country is so fragile that I have to be blackmailed into voting for a man I find totally reprehensible in order to keep another man I find totally reprehensible out of the office. You want McCain, you vote for him. McCain has never done anything to earn my vote. In fact, he consistently works against and has contempt for conservatives.
We ended up with McCain in the first place because of everyone’s irrational fear of Hillary. The party has been running scared since the ‘06 elections and making really stupid decisions ever since. If the GOP cannot get their heads out of their rearends, they can go to hell.
I agree.
And black anger? I’ve already seen it.
It is going to get nasty this year.
Who are Republicans less than thrilled about?
Obama
Hillary
McCain
They don’t like McCain, but shit, the alternates are no better.
Thanks. That was it in a nutshell.
This is not a vote “to save America”. We're bigger than that. We will survive Obama (some how). But our best, our brightest, does not deserve Obama.
As a veteran who served and cut my career short, under Bill Clinton, I implore you, don't let our military people be at the mercy of the biggest communist we've ever seen, Obama.
The alternates are magnitudes worse. I will make my decision at the last minute. ( To vote McCain or stay home.) Much can, and will, happen between now and November.
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