She is unfit for command and should be drummed out.
WEINER. YOU GO GIRL!
It'll be okay, you and I both know something that all those bitter rural, religious, gun-toting folks don't know.
Posted on 04/18/2008 8:35:51 PM PDT by jazusamo
EVERETT -- Eleven years ago, Sabrina M. Weiner graduated as a valedictorian at Kamiak High School near Everett. She was a National Merit Scholar, aiming for a bright future after earning a Navy ROTC scholarship to Stanford University.
Two months ago, Weiner, 27, after seven years in the active and reserve duty during which she rose to the rank of lieutenant, forfeited her career.
In a rare instance involving a commissioned officer, Weiner was arrested and given a choice between a court-martial or less-than-honorable discharge after refusing to serve in Iraq.
Speaking publicly for the first time about it, Weiner says she was not against the war but the so-called "individual augmentee" program. In the past several years, that program has sent nearly 60,000 sailors from ships and bases to augment Army and Marine ground forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. "It is not an against-the-war argument but a people-accountability argument," Weiner says. "I was proud to say I was a Navy officer. My problem is the way they are using us as IAs. It minimizes the job and training we do for the Navy."
It cannibalizes the Navy -- and Air Force -- to cover up a shortage of Army and Marine troops to fight the wars, she argues.
For her convictions, she was thrown in jail, flown across the nation in shackles and threatened with court-martial. Today she is scraping by in Everett, living frugally, tutoring high school kids in math and is enrolled in graduate studies at the Alden March Bioethics Institute based at the Albany Medical College in New York.
"I'm not another Watada," she cautions, referring to the Fort Lewis Army active duty lieutenant, Ehren Watada. In 2006, Watada refused to accompany his Stryker Brigade to combat duty in Iraq, contending that the war is immoral and unconstitutional.
Unlike Watada, whose case remains active after moving from a military to a federal court last year, Weiner's was resolved within a month in February. And unlike the Army lieutenant, Weiner has not become an anti-war cause for Hollywood celebrities and peace activists.
Navy officials declined to discuss Weiner's case, saying they were unfamiliar with it.
According to the Navy Department, 7,063 active and 5,050 reserve sailors are serving as individual augmentees, not only in Iraq and Afghanistan but also in the Horn of Africa and other locations. They include 3,145 active-duty and reserve officers and more than 9,000 active-duty and reserve enlisted men and women. The Defense Department and top Navy officials have acknowledged that the policy has created hardships for sailors and their families. The Navy has altered the program after listening to complaints from sailors, and invites more input, though it says the program is needed and will remain in place for some time to come.
Assignments are voluntary and involuntary, and reviews from sailors are mixed. Active- and reserve-duty sailors, who declined to be named, cited problems with the program to the Seattle P-I. They included a ship driver from San Diego, a sailor from Eastern Washington and a Navy aviator.
The aviator contacted his congressman after he was involuntarily sent to serve with ground forces in Iraq only a few months after returning from a full deployment with his squadron flying support missions in the war zone.
The individual augmentee jobs typically include public works and reconstruction; training local forces in Afghanistan; medical care; protecting U.S. bases; interpreting laws, especially concerning contractor obligations; forging closer ties with communities in Afghanistan; handling detainees; and administrative work.
Weiner got a call before Christmas that she would be getting orders soon to be called up.
Weiner says her job in Iraq was to have been commerce officer, providing money to local Iraqi leaders.
That gave her pause, not only because she was not trained for the job, but also because she is of Japanese, Korean and Jewish ancestry.
"They were going to have me negotiate money transactions with Iraqi warlords. A woman of Jewish and East Asian descent to try to talk to men about money in a country where women aren't always allowed to handle money," Weiner says.
Weiner's record and fitness reports before she was called up to IA duty indicate anything but a shrinking violet. She had earned two overseas service ribbons, commendation and achievement medals and was part of a Meritorious Unit Commendation.
After graduating from Stanford in 2001, Weiner started her career aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Essex, a vessel second in size only to aircraft carriers and which transports Marine landing forces. She was serving overseas during the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
She received glowing fitness reports:
"Assigned to arduous sea duty ...," her commander wrote in one review. "Outstanding officer and Navy professional! On the fast track! Assign only to the most challenging jobs!"
She left active duty in August 2004, receiving high marks in her final evaluation in all categories but professional expertise.
By 2005, Weiner as a reservist worked as a research liaison officer at the prestigious Office of Naval Research. Her detachment was responsible for managing research in underwater unmanned vehicles and weaponry. She also served as the unit's public information officer. Her fitness reports continued to average "above standards" or "greatly exceeds standards." A commander called her "an excellent officer" and "a highly motivated self-starter."
Her last good report was November 2007, this time newly assigned to a joint service unit of the Selective Service System in New Orleans.
"She is most strongly recommended for promotion and greater responsibility in the Naval Reserve," her commander wrote.
It all unraveled on Jan. 9 when she received orders to be called up.
She agonized over the policy and her own convictions, readiness and obligations as an officer. The job seemed to her a random call for a warm body.
"I was not afraid of dying; I was afraid of acting out of weakness," she said. "It would have been easier to just go along with it." Weiner was to report Jan. 28. She was depressed, and she tried to call local Navy lawyers for advice. "I was told they could do nothing because I'm a reservist" with her headquarters in New Orleans, she said.
She turned to GI Rights hotline, a nonprofit organization at www.objector.net that offers legal help to servicemen and women, especially to those refusing to go to war.
Weiner found a lawyer and filed a request for personal hardship, In a conference call, her commanding offer was angry at her, she said. "I never got to tell them why I was refusing to deploy," she said. He ordered her report to New Orleans.
Weiner said she refused to report while her request for exemption was in the pipeline. Counselors and lawyers seemed unfamiliar with how to handle officers refusing to report, having handled mostly Army enlisted personnel.
A Navy official tried to reach her at her parents' home. Weiner was told to report voluntarily or risk arrest and being transported in shackles.
"My dad said, 'We support you. They are trying to send you to an Army position in Iraq. I understand.' "
Weiner put her jobs and a graduate program in bioethics on hold. She said she was preparing in to pack for New Orleans on the night Everett police arrived at her door.
Weiner said she was booked and strip searched and did nothing to resist, and credits jail and military authorities who handled her arrest with "acting very professionally." Though friends and the GI Rights people knew of her situation, she wanted no action or protest. " I wanted to know what the Navy will do." Military police took over and escorted her in shackles, walking to help her conceal them and avoid attention through the airports from Seattle and in New Orleans. "The staff was kind and wonderful to me," she said.
She was flown to New Orleans on a Friday night, and the Navy was ready for her: Face detention, then a court-martial or accept an other-than-honorable discharge,
a separation from the service in a middle ground, ranking below honorable and general discharges but above bad conduct and dishonorable discharges.
Weiner said she mulled whether how much it might affect her later life. Wanting to teach and write after graduate school, she opted for the discharge. She was flown home the next day. Her final fitness report dated Feb. 20, 2008, sharply contrasts her earlier ones.
"Lt. Weiner's failure to report ...was counter to good order and discipline, negatively affected the command climate and represents a failure to live up to the Navy core values of honor, courage and commitment. Lt. Weiner effectively put her personal desires above the needs of the Navy team and the nation ...Lt. Weiner is most strongly recommended for separation from the Navy."
The episode still makes her emotional both in what she gave up and for the support she has received. Weiner feels she showed honor, courage, commitment. She wants to continue to serve her community, perhaps to take apply her studies in bioethics into ensuring the safety of the food we eat.
"I want people to know about IAs, but there's a good side," she says. "The Navy did the best it could. I have no hard feelings. We are there to serve -- we serve the constitution."
“Weiner”. Appropriate.
I thought so too and the writer tries to make her out a hero.
Incorrect. She was court martialed for disobeying an order.
Kamiak High School near Everett
The water ?
Sabrina Weiner had a blog for some time:
http://www.infinitedragon.blogspot.com/
And I can’t think of a rational reason to send a East Asian/Jewish woman into a situation like that.
She is unfit for command and should be drummed out.
You mean near death, with garbage dumpsters providing her only nourishment?
Nope.
"living frugally, tutoring high school kids in math and is enrolled in graduate studies at the Alden March Bioethics Institute based at the Albany Medical College in New York."
Oh. Working and going to grad school. I think she'll be fine.
Exactly! You don’t disobey a direct order in the military and walk away, there will be repercussions.
She served her time, and country...She had a beef with the machine. They should of given her a General Discharged under honorable conditions, IMO.
I understand the point she claims, I just don’t believe that she wasn’t allowed to voice it to her superiors.
As an officer, she should be fully aware of Defense policy that states you are always subject to the needs of the service.
It was the first and last time I crossed my superior's decision on matter after I received the obvious incoming responses to the above comment.
Hasn’t been a new post on that blog for almost 3 years.
I believe you’re correct, she knew what she was doing and was fully aware of the consequences being an officer.
Hell of an officer. Feels she gets to pick and choose what she will and won’t do? They shouldn’t have given her the general. They should have courtmartialed her a*s, given her six months and a DD.
CPT., ARMOR
MACV, Class of ‘71
“That gave her pause, not only because she was not trained for the job, but also because she is of Japanese, Korean and Jewish ancestry. “They were going to have me negotiate money transactions with Iraqi warlords. A woman of Jewish and East Asian descent to try to talk to men about money in a country where women aren’t always allowed to handle money,” Weiner says.”
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We’ll sir, I agree that those Japanese Cruisers are steaming up Iron Bottom sound, but my position as cook hardly qualifies me for combat on this Destroyer,yes I am trained to serve on the damage control party , but really, wouldn’t my skills be better served ashore?... In Miami? Or New York? Hoboken?”
How many many times do yah think that conversation happened in the middle of that war?
its not like she hid out in Canada, or blasted Bush or blasted the Navy.....
I'll give her credit for being upfront about it all...
and it sounds like the Navy is losing one good officier....
Oh ridiculous NONSENSE! What does her nationality have to do with the job at hand!?! You’re totally out of line here. Because she is jewish/japanese/korean she can’t handle money or talk to men about money? She should get into her BURKHA NOW!
Kamiak HS also produced Marine Corporals Robert Pennington and Namsman Jr. Whatever’s in the water ought to be bottled and shipped to the Berkley CA school district.
I haven’t seen Sabrina in several years, but we got to know her family during our kid’s sports activities. She’s scary smart and from her FITREPs sounds like a pretty squared-away Naval Officer until she apparently had a brain fart.
We should at least give her credit for not taking the Watada approach: no news conferences. No public declarations about the folly of the war. She made her decision and accepted the consequences.
NAMSMAN sends.
One more comment - you’re a total idiot
What does her nationality and gender have to do with the story? Are you serious? Or are you as blind as Bush when it comes to the backwards culture of the Islamo nuts? And this isnt even mentioning the fact that she was not trained for the job that she was ordered to do. That kind of idiocy got us the Abu Gharib scandal. No thanks.
Bet you she’ll be addressing the Democratic National Convention in August. Good timing on her part.
I would have put her in front of a firing squad...her and all like her. Male/Female/Enlisted/Officer.
This crap has to stop.
You know, you don’t join the military if your goal in life is to have an opinion.
Hell of an officer. Feels she gets to pick and choose what she will and won’t do? They shouldn’t have given her the general. They should have courtmartialed her a*s, given her six months and a DD.
A male officer would get that for sure.
The military is not a glee club. You go where your are told. You do what your told and say Aye Aye sir when told.
As a Navy officer I would not be happy about doing a Army officers mission. But stuff happens,deal with it and move forward.
You got it right, excuses don’t count.
I agree with the assessment. It was not what she did as much as how she did it. Missing a movement turns what could have been a minor administrative matter into a disaster.
More than anything else, it seems she did not seek advice to find an amiable way out of her predicament. Senior officers and even NCOs are experts at the system, and are usually more than willing to help subordinates do things “the (service branch) way”.
There are always wash outs, and often for very forgivable reasons. Had she listened to advice, she might not only have been given an honorable discharge, but a service related disability as well.
Ummmm...no.
She has none of the above.
My Marine daughter, who just returned from Iraq, demonstrates the honor, courage, and commitment of a military officer.
I agree and I appreciate your daughters service.
“And this isnt even mentioning the fact that she was not trained for the job that she was ordered to do.”
In some armies or ours in other circumstances if you refuse to obey an order the last thing you hear is the hammer on a .45 being cocked back.
At least I’ll give her credit for admitting she wasn’t suited for the job. Many of the officers (O-4/5/6) I know think they were comissioned by God.
I believe you're correct and she knew what would happen to her and evidently didn't care, for whatever reason.
God knows we need Korean linguists.
The problem, is the Navy does not properly utilize its soldiers, they should have used her where her talent would be appreciated.
Putting her skills in Iraq or Afghanistan would have been a waste of money, resources and effective management.
Once again, there will be blowback because of her position and reasoning. The press will eat it up, instead she could be performing her job right now in Okinawa.
I do find this short Navy blurb troubling, ‘”Lt. Weiner's failure to report ...was counter to good order and discipline, negatively affected the command climate and represents a failure to live up to the Navy core values of honor, courage and commitment. Lt. Weiner effectively put her personal desires above the needs of the Navy team and the nation ...Lt. Weiner is most strongly recommended for separation from the Navy.”’
They describe the Navy team and core values yet leave out her Constitutional Oath.
not only are you a fool, attempting to correlate gender with abu gharib, but you are a dangerous fool - because you think you know what you are talking about. Islam is a backwards culture - to be sure - but there are thousands of females serving admirably in various functions in Iraq and around the middle east. Do we now allow them to decide which assignments they undertake? NO MORON. Go back to DU
Agree. She isn’t fit to lick your daughter’sboots.
“Senior officers and even NCOs are experts at the system, and are usually more than willing to help subordinates do things “the (service branch) way”.”
Sounds like corruption is a way of life, even in the military.
This is a sad story. She signed on for military service, not “nation building”. Hire a civilian for that job.
The article doesn’t seem to mention her blog worshiping cindy sheehan. I would consider that relevant information.
It seems you’ve got the libtard anti-war lines down pat.
Thanks for bringing that out. I didn’t take the time to read any of her blog but I will now.
Hang him
Hang her
I just took it you meant Watada when you said him. :)
I type faster than I read. She is a volunteer. No one coerced her. Hang her.
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