I'll drink to that! Green or yellow?
Posted on 04/18/2008 11:30:18 PM PDT by Exton1
Would this not send a strong message to support Christianity?
Would it not also be a counter to the homosexual “Day of Silence?”
Any comments?
Religion should be kept out of schools, period. The publik skool system has a hard enough time teaching kids how to count to ten. They preach that homosexuality is normal and decent. They teach that Al Gore's vision of the world's climate is factual and real.
What makes you think that religion can be discussed with any degree of fairness and truth?
I agree. Parents can send their kids to religious schools or homeschool. Public schools would open a pandora’s box having an official Bible day. But if kids want to bring a Bible to read during free time, that should be okay. Unfortunately, the schools HAVE embraced the religions of homosexuality and globull warming.
We got bigger fish to fry in public schools.
I am a Christian and I don't believe intelligent design should be on the agenda either.
God wants us by faith.
I need no proof and neither do my Children.
Where is it written? Don't say the Constitution, because when I went to school, we had the same Constitution, but also a daily recitation of the Lord's Prayer. Who could imagine! ... In New Jersey!
There should be no official religious activities in the public schools. This includes Bible study or anything of the sort.
I see no reason why students shouldn't be allowed to bring their own Bibles to read during quiet time. Unfortunately there are too many people who would find that too provocative and would claim that their civil rights were being threatened simply by being in the vicinity of one.
So much for liberty...
I never claimed it was written anywhere. I was expressing my opinion.
This guy I know says we shouldn’t go into public and make a big deal about showing off our faith and piety. He once said:
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
YMMV, I guess.
I’m against it.
I don’t want there to be a “take a quran to school day” either.
This is just politicizing religion, which I think is the opposite effect of what you really want. Personally, I have a low opinion of anyone who takes their sacred religion and uses it like a rotten fish just to get attention. Every day should be bring a Bible to _____ (fill in the blank) if that is how you live your life. This country was founded on religious freedom, so by all means live it that way, but please don’t politicize it and don’t try to force others to politicize it as well.
At the time, there were very few who were not Christian. That is no longer the case. Demographics have changed. There also were not all the nondiscrimination laws there are today. Or the ACLU.
This gives a sociological explanation for the change in practice, but it does not provide a legal or logical explanation for the SCOTUS decision that this practice was no longer, or never had been, constitutional.
This decision represents a complete reversal of the intent of the 1st amendment, which was originally that the federal government not impose a standard on local religious practice.
Better would be a National don’t attend Union NEA run Schools day.
“At the time, there were very few who were not Christian. That is no longer the case. Demographics have changed. There also were not all the nondiscrimination laws there are today. Or the ACLU.”
The more we change America, the more it changes. At one time we simply imposed our culture on ourselves.
Our country, our rules.
Don’t subject the kids to harassment and embarassment.
Maybe we should go back to those that signed the constitution. Dr. Benjamin Rush (1745-1813) one of the youngest signers of the Declaration of Independence, a distinguished physican and scientist who held the first chemistry professorship in America, wrote his reasons “Why the Bible in our Public Schools.” He also wrote what the consequences if the Bible is not taught in our public schools. We are seeing those consquences very clearly in these times. (We despertly need true history of our nation
taught as never before!!!!!
You need a perspective adjustment......
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Luk 12:8 “And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God,
Luk 12:9 but the one who denies me before men will be denied before the angels of God.
So, this is about having the natural God-given right to show and live out, and not be required to stuff and stifle the very reason for the life of a Christian, his enduring, vital and irrepressible FAITH.
I think your calling the LORD of CREATION, “this guy” is really low and disrespectful because you bring him down to your level with a familiarity that diminishes him rather than making him more approachable, which may have been your purpose...
so.
Trying to bring off a “National Bring A Bible To School Day” would be a good test to see how far our nation has advanced into Godless Communism, the framework of the New World Order.
Sad state of affairs to have deteriorated to the point that the STATE is where one now goes to seek approval to appoint another new feast day.
Since this nation has made the public school Caesars temple and the high places of Darwinism why on earth would we ask their permission for a day of ridicule to our own children. IF a child has the time for Bible reading for their own personal purpose at school then they do not need to ask permission to carry that book on their person.
To keep it local, what if a middle school with a capacity of say, 1,000, was one day confronted with three hundred students carrying Bibles?
What would they do, arrest them all? Confiscate every last Bible? I don’t think your typical educrat would have the sheer cussedness to do so and face the media afterward.
C’mon, folks, this is still a country founded on Judeo-Christian vales, and we’re flying on empty now, while we bow to the whims of muzzies and atheists! Let’s do something!
Maybe it should be expanded to “National Bring a Bible to Work Day”
Not necessary. We have the right to carry a Bible anywhere we want school, work, whatever. Some may have to fight ignorance on that subject but we have the right.
My understanding, based on the words of Jesus, is that we are never to use to Lord for personal self-aggrandizement.
Do people do it? Yes, all the time. Does it anger the Lord, He says it does.
If you feel otherwise, feel free to act on your feelings as you see fit.
Denying the Lord, and making a show of carrying Bibles around school on "Bible Day" are two very different things.
And as for the "This guy I know"; I do know him and I know him well. I know precisely what he has said about those who would use his name to further themselves and their own agendas.
He seems to be entirely against it.
It had nothing to do with being ashamed of Him or denying Him. It has to do with self-promotion.
Promoting one's own piety in public is not the same as worshiping the Lord. He says so.
I think your calling the LORD of CREATION, “this guy” is really low and disrespectful because you bring him down to your level with a familiarity that diminishes him rather than making him more approachable, which may have been your purpose... so.
You can think anything you like about me; your judgment means less than nothing to me.
I'll stick with Jesus' words over yours if it's all the same to you.
You are equating all open Christian practices with self promotion. There is no shame in publicly acknowledging our Faith and Joy in the LORD.
Exercising the freedom to fully acknowledge Christ in our lives, to carry our Bibles, and to walk in Christian traditions is not using the LORD for self-aggrandizement or anything like it. It is freedom.
This is about freedom. Your belligerence is ungracious. I can’t think of why you SHOULD care what I think, but it is unlovely to point it out.
Publicly promoting one’s piety would be like Bill Clinton carrying a 10 lb Bible for Photo-ops......
The teacher’s Bible on his desk was a quiet event that has once again brought into view the continuing effort by present culture police to give promotion to all kinds of thought and life habits, except for Christianity, which must, by the desires of the enemies of Christ, be stifled.
There are even some well meaning people who claim to love the LORD and the Brethren, who also join the chorus of “keep your Christianity at home, where we can’t see it...”, claiming some dishonest or dishonorable motive in anyone appearing to be a Christian, or admitting it, or showing preference for Christian things.
So.
Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is Liberty.
I am not; that is a lie that you should retract. No where did I say that glorifying God is not a Christian practice.
But "Bible Day", is not a Christian Practice.
It is not in the Bible.
It is not reading the Bible for understanding
It feeds no one.
It clothes no one.
It doesn't help anyone.
It advertises that the person carrying around the Bible wants everyone to know that on this one day, they can carry a Bible to school.The Bible as a statement.
It is precisely what Jesus warned about.
For your edification:And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. (Matthew 6:5-6)
Carrying a Bible around to show that you can do so is like standing on the street corner, making everyone aware that you are pious. It was warned against by no less than Christ Himself.
But as I have consistently said, you should feel free to think and act however you like.
This is about freedom. Your belligerence is ungracious. I can’t think of why you SHOULD care what I think, but it is unlovely to point it out.
If it is about "freedom", as you say, feel "free" to do as you like and don't worry about what others think.
I have not been ungracious or belligerent. I did not take you to task, you attempted to take me. If it is "unlovely" to point out that your opinion of scripture is not as important of what Christ himself said, I doubt I have anything to say that could possibly be of help.
I simply point out repeatedly that I choose to follow a higher authority than yourself.
I have now repeatedly pointed out that I will follow the words of Christ versus your version of what you believe what He may have said.
Why does that bother you so?
I'll drink to that! Green or yellow?
“I have now repeatedly pointed out that I will follow the words of Christ versus your version of what you believe what He may have said.
Why does that bother you so?”
Be at peace.....
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