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A Navy lieutenant no more
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 4/18/08 | MIKE BARBER

Posted on 04/19/2008 11:09:14 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

EVERETT -- Eleven years ago, Sabrina M. Weiner graduated as a valedictorian at Kamiak High School near Everett. She was a National Merit Scholar, aiming for a bright future after earning a Navy ROTC scholarship to Stanford University.

Two months ago, Weiner, 27, forfeited her Navy career after seven years on active and reserve duty, during which she rose to the rank of lieutenant.

In a rare instance involving a commissioned officer, Weiner was arrested and given a choice between a court-martial or less-than-honorable discharge after refusing to serve in Iraq.

Speaking publicly for the first time about it, Weiner says she was not against the war but the so-called "individual augmentee" program. In the past several years, that program has sent nearly 60,000 sailors from ships and bases to augment Army and Marine ground forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. "It is not an against-the-war argument but a people-accountability argument," Weiner says. "I was proud to say I was a Navy officer. My problem is the way they are using us as IAs. It minimizes the job and training we do for the Navy."

It cannibalizes the Navy -- and Air Force -- to cover up a shortage of Army and Marine troops to fight the wars, she argues.

For her convictions, she was jailed, flown across the nation in shackles and threatened with court-martial. Today she is scraping by in Everett, tutoring high school kids in math and enrolled in graduate studies at the Alden March Bioethics Institute based at the Albany Medical College in New York.

"I'm not another Watada," she cautions, referring to the Fort Lewis Army active duty lieutenant, Ehren Watada. In 2006, Watada refused to accompany his Stryker Brigade to combat duty in Iraq, contending that the war is immoral and unconstitutional.

Unlike Watada, whose case remains active after moving from a military to a federal court last year, Weiner's was resolved within a month in February. And unlike the Army lieutenant, Weiner has not become an anti-war cause for Hollywood celebrities and peace activists.

Navy officials declined to discuss Weiner's case, saying they were unfamiliar with it.

According to the Navy Department, 7,063 active and 5,050 reserve sailors are serving as individual augmentees, not only in Iraq and Afghanistan but also in the Horn of Africa and other locations. They include 3,145 active-duty and reserve officers and more than 9,000 active-duty and reserve enlisted men and women. The Defense Department and top Navy officials have acknowledged that the policy has created hardships for sailors and their families. The Navy has altered the program after listening to complaints from sailors, and invites more input, though it says the program is needed and will remain in place for some time to come.

Assignments are voluntary and involuntary, and reviews from sailors are mixed. Active- and reserve-duty sailors, who declined to be named, cited problems with the program to the Seattle P-I. They included a ship driver from San Diego, a sailor from Eastern Washington and a Navy aviator.

The aviator contacted his congressman after he was suddenly and involuntarily called up to serve alone with ground forces in Iraq, only a few months after returning home to his young family from a full deployment with his squadron flying missions in the war zone.

The individual augmentee jobs typically include public works and reconstruction; training local forces in Afghanistan; medical care; protecting U.S. bases; interpreting laws, especially concerning contractor obligations; forging closer ties with communities in Afghanistan; handling detainees; and administrative work.

Weiner got a call before Christmas that she would soon be called up. She says her job in Iraq was to have been commerce officer, providing money to local Iraqi leaders.

That gave her pause, not only because she was not trained for the job, but also because she is of Japanese, Korean and Jewish ancestry.

"They were going to have me negotiate money transactions with Iraqi warlords. A woman of Jewish and East Asian descent to try to talk to men about money in a country where women aren't always allowed to handle money," Weiner says.

Weiner's record and fitness reports before she was called up to IA duty indicate anything but a shrinking violet. She had earned two overseas service ribbons, commendation and achievement medals and was part of a Meritorious Unit Commendation.

After graduating from Stanford in 2001, Weiner started her career aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Essex, a vessel second in size only to aircraft carriers and which transports Marine landing forces. She was serving overseas during the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

She received glowing fitness reports:

"Assigned to arduous sea duty ... ," her commander wrote in one review. "Outstanding officer and Navy professional! On the fast track! Assign only to the most challenging jobs!"

She left active duty in August 2004, receiving high marks in her final evaluation in all categories but professional expertise.

By 2005, Weiner as a reservist worked as a research liaison officer at the prestigious Office of Naval Research. Her detachment was responsible for managing research in underwater unmanned vehicles and weaponry. She also served as the unit's public information officer. Her fitness reports continued to average "above standards" or "greatly exceeds standards." A commander called her "an excellent officer" and "a highly motivated self-starter."

Her last good report was November 2007, this time newly assigned to a joint service unit of the Selective Service System in New Orleans.

"She is most strongly recommended for promotion and greater responsibility in the Naval Reserve," her commander wrote.

It all unraveled on Jan. 9 when she received orders to be called up.

She agonized over the policy and her own convictions, readiness and obligations as an officer. The job seemed to her a random call for a warm body.

"I was not afraid of dying; I was afraid of acting out of weakness," she said. "It would have been easier to just go along with it." Weiner was to report Jan. 28. She was depressed, and she tried to call local Navy lawyers for advice. "I was told they could do nothing because I'm a reservist" with her headquarters in New Orleans, she said.

She turned to GI Rights hot line, a nonprofit organization at www.objector.netthat offers legal help to servicemen and women, especially to those refusing to go to war.

Weiner found a lawyer and filed a request for personal hardship. In a conference call, her commanding offer was angry at her, she said. "I never got to tell them why I was refusing to deploy," she said. He ordered her report to New Orleans.

Weiner said she refused to report while her request for exemption was in the pipeline. Counselors and lawyers seemed unfamiliar with how to handle officers refusing to report, having handled mostly Army enlisted personnel.

A Navy official tried to reach her at her parents' home. Weiner was told to report voluntarily or risk arrest and being transported in shackles.

"My dad said, 'We support you. They are trying to send you to an Army position in Iraq. I understand.' "

Weiner put her jobs and a graduate program in bioethics on hold. She said she was preparing to pack for New Orleans on the night Everett police arrived at her door.

Weiner said she was booked and strip searched and did nothing to resist, and credits jail and military authorities who handled her arrest with "acting very professionally." Though friends and the GI Rights people knew of her situation, she wanted no action or protest. " I wanted to know what the Navy will do." Military police took over and escorted her in shackles, walking to help her conceal them and avoid attention through the airports from Seattle and in New Orleans. "The staff was kind and wonderful to me," she said.

She was flown to New Orleans on a Friday night, and the Navy was ready for her: Face detention, then a court-martial or accept an other-than-honorable discharge, a separation from the service in a middle ground, ranking below honorable and general discharges but above bad conduct and dishonorable discharges.

Weiner said she mulled how much it might affect her later life. Wanting to teach and write after graduate school, she opted for the discharge. She was flown home the next day. Her final fitness report dated Feb. 20, 2008, sharply contrasts her earlier ones.

"Lt. Weiner's failure to report ... was counter to good order and discipline, negatively affected the command climate and represents a failure to live up to the Navy core values of honor, courage and commitment. Lt. Weiner effectively put her personal desires above the needs of the Navy team and the nation. ... Lt. Weiner is most strongly recommended for separation from the Navy."

The episode still makes her emotional both in what she gave up and for the support she has received. Weiner feels she showed honor, courage and commitment. She wants to continue to serve her community, perhaps to apply her studies in bioethics to ensuring the safety of the food we eat.

"I want people to know about IAs, but there's a good side," she says.

"The Navy did the best it could. I have no hard feelings. We are there to serve -- we serve the constitution."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; military; militarywomen; reservists; rotc; scholarship; stanford; usn; wa; weiner

1 posted on 04/19/2008 11:09:14 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim
Idiot. The military doesn't exist for your personal whims. If its too hard for you to report when you are called up to service, you should think twice about joining. Some people are still unfamiliar with military life in this country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 04/19/2008 11:14:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim
...and well rid of her too. She had a duty. She refused to fulfill her sworn duty.

Leuys do not get to pick and choose the orders they follow because they, do not like them.

In addition, look up and read her blog. While on active duty she was supporting Cindy Shehan, and writing very political commentary praising her and indivating what an honor it was to know her. To say she is not politically opposed to the war is very disengenous.

I wonder if she also supports this man...



THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND OBAMA'S CHURCH

3 posted on 04/19/2008 11:15:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: kiriath_jearim
Translation: ‘Moooooom, they want to send me to a war zone. I wanna come hooooooome.’
4 posted on 04/19/2008 11:17:16 AM PDT by RichInOC ("Thou hast not to like it--thou hast just to do it."--Richard Marcinko, Sixth Commandment of SpecWar)
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To: goldstategop

Curious; Why didn’t we elect her president ?


5 posted on 04/19/2008 11:17:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Jeff Head
Lefties who join the military think its a meals on wheels program. Sort of glorified babysitting. They never look at what being a soldier or sailor entails.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 04/19/2008 11:18:54 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Sabrina Weiner has a blog that hasn't been posted to since 2005 and is telling of her agenda, she supports Cindy Sheehan but doesn't support our operation in Iraq.

Infinite Dragon

7 posted on 04/19/2008 11:19:55 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: kiriath_jearim

She ought to change the spelling of her last name to Whiner! But she is a weiner too.


8 posted on 04/19/2008 11:22:20 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: kiriath_jearim

Simply put, she didn’t want to go to Iraq.
I wonder if this is a slick way to get out of serving without losing benefits?


9 posted on 04/19/2008 11:23:22 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: kiriath_jearim
For her convictions, she was jailed, flown across the nation in shackles and threatened with court-martial.It was NOT for her conviction. It was for refusal to follow orders.
10 posted on 04/19/2008 11:24:22 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: jazusamo
Looks like the Seattle Post-Intelligencer is guilty of journalistic malpractice. The reader has no way of knowing what Sabrina Weiner's true reasons for leaving the Navy were. It turns out she was a fanatical anti-American moonbat. So much for printing all the news that's fit to print.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 04/19/2008 11:25:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Since we the taxpayers funded her education, when is she paying us back?


12 posted on 04/19/2008 11:25:36 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Waterboarding: 100% effective, results instantly, just add water!)
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To: Bahbah
Yep. But you can't expect a MSM journalist to set the record straight about a deserter, can you? She refused to follow lawful orders. Weiner should have received a bad conduct discharge. The Navy went far too gentle on her so she didn't suffer the consequences for her disobedience.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 04/19/2008 11:27:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jazusamo

Thanx for posting that link.
Her blog says it all:
she’s an anti-war moonbat!


14 posted on 04/19/2008 11:27:57 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: goldstategop

I emailed Mike Barber less than an hour ago and mentioned the blog and his not including it in the story. Haven’t heard back from him but if I do I’ll post it here and on another thread on his story.


15 posted on 04/19/2008 11:30:25 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: goldstategop

Exactly.

Sounds like she thought she was UNIONIZED labor and should strike if she didn’t like the job.


16 posted on 04/19/2008 11:31:15 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Well, after reading all of the details, I find some sympathy for her. She was not trying to escape a dangerous assignment, but what she (and apparently other naval personnel) consider to be a misuse of her training to fill a warm body spot. And apparently she didn’t intend to refuse to go, but was only trying to cut through the system and find someone she could discuss it with.

That said, my own experience many years ago in the military was that stupid assignments and seeming misuse of people is normal. You just have to put up with it and make the best of it. All too often, the only people who knew what they were doing were the old sergeants. You had to hope that junior officers would take their advice. As for orders cut from above, they seldom made much sense.

That’s how the cookie crumbles.


17 posted on 04/19/2008 11:31:25 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: goldstategop

Ah. If the story is a lie, then I retract my earlier comments.


18 posted on 04/19/2008 11:32:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jazusamo
Its a shame he had to do a profile on her when there are a lot more deserving people he could have covered. Mis-representing an anti-American moonbat's career doesn't add to his and his newspaper's reputation.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 04/19/2008 11:34:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cicero
You have to obey orders, stupid or not. After you obey the order, you can take it up with your commanding officer or go up the chain of command. But an enlisted person who happens to be a subordinate is not entitled to decide what order he would like to obey. End of story.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 04/19/2008 11:36:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The sad part of it is I met more of them like that than not: Wanted the free education, decent pay and the prestige of the rank and positions but pulled out the female “trump” card when the going got tough.

They put a bad light on the women who really wanted to serve.


21 posted on 04/19/2008 11:37:43 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: OldMissileer
There are lots of female soldiers, sailors and airmen who serve their country honorably and they don't get a mention in the MSM. Let's not forget that for the few bad apples in the military there are tens of thousands more who sacrifice everything to defend their country. Its time to salute them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 04/19/2008 11:43:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Sorry for your luck there missy, you signed on the dotted line and ugh you like Cindy Sheehan, that should be a mark against you right away....


23 posted on 04/19/2008 11:44:42 AM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets! (RIP Sgt Matthew Maupin))
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To: kiriath_jearim

Douche bag!


24 posted on 04/19/2008 11:51:58 AM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: goldstategop
I do have mixed feelings about this. I am a 39 year old Navy Pilot (Will be a CDR within a year) and I just got back from a ground job in Fallujah this past Feb. I was deployed for most of 2006 in a flying capacity in the Med. I came back from deployment late Dec and was sent to Iraq duty the following April as an IA. I am highly capable and well trained in aviation and naval tactics. I was put into a job in Iraq that had little to do with anything I am trained to do and could have easily been covered by a mid-level NCO. Keep in mind that you the taxpayer pay me a $25,000 a year aviation bonus and $840 extra a month for aviation career incentive pay in addition to my base pay (trust me, I am not hurting). Plus, I am income tax free for last year and probably this year with all of the tax benefits I received. I am glad that I got to go to Iraq and I had a blast, but I am mature enough to question the use of resources. Seems like we are hurting for force expansion in the Army and the Marine Corps when a guy like me has to be involuntarily placed into a ground job that could be covered by a more cost effective method. Maybe we have too many people in the Navy? Didn't seem like the Navy missed me at all. Anyway, the Iraq experience was very positive for me.
25 posted on 04/19/2008 11:57:04 AM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: kiriath_jearim
Yup, those Navy people think they're "safe" from Infantry type duty (defined here as "Hey, they're shooting at me") ~ but they're not.

During the Nam this was a big problem ~ guys would try like crazy to join the Navy just to avoid the draft, then they'd get in the Navy ~ maybe even be commissioned, and next thing you know some guy's got 'em on a Swift Boat!

Can you imagine how startled John Kerry was when he found out Swift Boats ran up and down a narrow river getting shot at rather than just running parallel to Vietnam's China Sea shoreline ~ far away from any effective fire from the NVA.

Now this doesn't mean all the Navy folks are this way ~ I've known some who weren't ~ but some aren't ~ hey, there are even guys in the Infantry who don't like to get shot at. And, besides, this is a chick ~ we know she didn't sign on for that part.

26 posted on 04/19/2008 12:06:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ThunderStruck94

"Sabrina M. Weiner, 27, near her home in Everett on Friday. Weiner was a Navy reserve officer until she refused to go to Iraq in January."

27 posted on 04/19/2008 12:10:34 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: kiriath_jearim

Did she miss the part where she swore “to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and “to obey the orders of the officers appointed over me”?


28 posted on 04/19/2008 12:12:09 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 275 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: ThunderStruck94

Well, I’m a retired Navy Reservist who went in during Vietnam. I do not think many Navy folks thought that DaNang was “good duty” but we all swore the same oath given to every armed forces member (Navy, USMC, Army, Air Force and Coast Guard) and that oath states that 1. we will obey the orders of the Commander in Chief and the officers appointed over us; and 2. that we will defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic.


29 posted on 04/19/2008 12:19:07 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 275 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“...and other duties as assigned...”


30 posted on 04/19/2008 12:20:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: muawiyah

Getting shot at in the Infantry is an occupational hazard, not especially pleasant but it goes with the job.


31 posted on 04/19/2008 12:21:05 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: meandog
Yes, absolutely agree with you. My point is that we probably do not have the numbers we need in the Army and the Marine Corps. Those boys (& girls) do their duty, but they are really having a hard time with the rotation cycle. In today's high tech military, you cannot just tell its members that we don't give a crap about your home life, professional abilities, etc.......just do your duty without question! Things are a little different these days. There are no conscripts in the military. If you start treating them like conscripts, readiness will suffer because no-one will stay in.
32 posted on 04/19/2008 12:30:23 PM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: meandog

Buddy of mine who was a US Army supply officer thought Da Nang was tremendous duty ~ the alternative being out in the boonies.


33 posted on 04/19/2008 12:36:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: goldstategop

Agreed. I certainly did. And see #18.

The most egregious order we had came down from Defense Secretary McNamara himself in the early Kennedy years. He considered himself an “efficiency expert,” having done so well making Ford Motor Company more efficient.

The order said that any jeeps or trucks that were not being sufficiently used at the company level—which would be determined by their mileage, which had to be reported up the line—would have to be turned back in.

The predictable result was that our company officers ordered us to go out in the desert and drive around in circles, until we had put on the required mileage. They were, of course, absolutely right. If trouble came, we would need those vehicles. No good officer would ever agree to turn company equipment back in if he could help it.

So, out we went into the desert.

A better solution would have been to fire McNamara for stupidity. That would have saved a lot of trouble down the line, when we got into Vietnam.


34 posted on 04/19/2008 12:38:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: goldstategop
You have to obey orders, stupid or not.

BUT...
IIRC, you have the option (duty?) to disobey patently ILLEGAL orders.

which is obviously NOT the case with this ex-officer.

Who is THANKFULLY! not in charge of other honorable service
personnel!!!
35 posted on 04/19/2008 12:39:18 PM PDT by VOA
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To: kiriath_jearim
Weiner says she was not against the war but the so-called "individual augmentee" program. In the past several years, that program has sent nearly 60,000 sailors from ships and bases to augment Army and Marine ground forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. "
It is 30 years ago I was in the Army but they did this then too.

It is not an against-the-war argument but a people-accountability argument," Weiner says. "I was proud to say I was a Navy officer. My problem is the way they are using us as IAs. It minimizes the job and training we do for the Navy."It cannibalizes the Navy -- and Air Force -- to cover up a shortage of Army and Marine troops to fight the wars, she argues.
Some people are smart but have problems with "common sense"

I was under the impression this was done to have a large number of people who would understand armed forces operations from perspective of another branch of service.

36 posted on 04/19/2008 12:43:16 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: kiriath_jearim
A woman of Jewish and East Asian descent to try to talk to men about money in a country where women aren't always allowed to handle money," Weiner says.

Concerning DoD's deeply flawed and ill-conceived "warm body" augmentation policy, she does have a point here. That's why so much of the reconstruction and civic action that has been going on in Iraq has been so incompetent.

37 posted on 04/19/2008 12:45:24 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Cicero

Ditto.


38 posted on 04/19/2008 12:47:41 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Weiner got a call before Christmas that she would soon be called up.
She says her job in Iraq was to have been commerce officer, providing
money to local Iraqi leaders.

That gave her pause, not only because she was not trained for
the job, but also because she is of Japanese, Korean and Jewish ancestry.


This gets the Golden Turkey "TRIFECTA" Award For Excuses.

1. You can't deploy me because I'm Multi-Racial like Vin Diesel!

2. (a gratuitous mention of the timing of the order)
You can't deploy me...it's around Christmas Time!!!

3. (implied)
You can't deploy me because I'm a female (that would be dealing
with the standard females-as-property attitude in The Real
Islamic World).

Call me cynical, but I wish I had the ability to mention my
mixed ancestry (German, Dutch, English, French and G-d-Only-Knows
what sort of mongrel mix) as a reason to not take a deployment order)!!!
39 posted on 04/19/2008 12:49:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: kiriath_jearim
It cannibalizes the Navy -- and Air Force -- to cover up a shortage of Army and Marine troops to fight the wars, she argues.

Since the Navy hasn't been needed as much in this War, why NOT move folks around? If they have skills that can be utilized on the ground, it's a good idea to put them there, and free up a ground pounder to do the job he or she has been trained to do.

41 posted on 04/19/2008 12:58:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: kiriath_jearim

Then get her the hell out.


42 posted on 04/19/2008 2:15:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: goldstategop
Some people are still unfamiliar with military life in this country.

How familiar are you?

43 posted on 04/19/2008 2:18:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SuziQ
Since the Navy hasn't been needed as much in this War, why NOT move folks around?

Sure. Let's take dentists and send them over there to do surgery. Let's take Navy lawyers and put them in command of Army infantry companies. Taking a person and sticking them in a position that they are untrained for just to put a body there is a waste of talent and can endanger the lives of others.

44 posted on 04/19/2008 2:20:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Drive off Golden State GOP, I think that we are the only ones who know who Manuel II Palelologus was.


45 posted on 04/19/2008 2:27:30 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

This reminds me of the early days of Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan when the Special Forces guys would patch through audio from the female AC-130 pilot overhead onto the Taliban frequencies. She would say that she was delivering retribution for the way they treated their women.

These troglodytes need to get with the program.

So does this bimbo.


46 posted on 04/19/2008 2:34:49 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"Assigned to arduous sea duty ... ," her commander wrote in one review.

I like seeing journalists who know nothing about the Navy evaluation system pick out bullets. Even Joe Sh*t the Rag Man gets this in his eval if he is assigned to a forward-deployed ship in Japan like Essex. Everyone does-it's SOP.

I also thought it was interesting that that after 4 years active duty she received low marks in professional expertise. So much for the hard charger claim. I wonder if she complained about having no training as a Public Affairs Officer when they assigned her that job at the reserve command?

47 posted on 04/19/2008 5:17:38 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: goldstategop

Do you think he’s spent as much ink on any of the Medal of Honor awardees since 2001? I highly doubt it, because I did a search and didn’t find any.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Mike+Barber+Medal+of+Honor&btnG=Google+Search

“Its a shame he had to do a profile on her when there are a lot more deserving people he could have covered....”


48 posted on 04/19/2008 10:14:57 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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