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U.S.-MEXICAN BORDER: Researchers Fear Southern Fence Will Endanger Species Further
The Washington Post ^ | April 20, 2008 | Juliet Eilperin

Posted on 04/19/2008 10:17:57 PM PDT by Aristotelian

TUCSON -- The debate over the fence the United States is building along its southern border has focused largely on the project's costs, feasibility and how well it will curb illegal immigration. But one of its most lasting impacts may well be on the animals and vegetation that make this politically fraught landscape their home.

Some wildlife researchers have grown so concerned about the consequences of bisecting hundreds of miles of rugged habitat that they have talked of engaging in civil disobedience to block the fence's construction.

"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors," Healy Hamilton, who directs the Center for Biodiversity Research and Information at the California Academy of Sciences, told colleagues at a recent scientific retreat here. "This is one thing we might be able to stop."

"Make it 13!" said Allison Jones, a conservation biologist at the Wild Utah Project, an advocacy group.

Hamilton and Jones have yet to throw themselves before bulldozers, but their call to arms reflects the researchers' growing fears that the wall will imperil species that, in Hamilton's words, "walk, fly or crawl across that border."

The scientists cite examples such as the 70 remaining Sonoran pronghorns in Arizona's Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge, deerlike animals that are the fastest land mammals in North America. They are the only remaining population on U.S. soil, and the five surveillance towers that the administration plans to build in the area will be in the middle of the pronghorns' range, producing noise and human activity that would disturb the sensitive species.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: border; borderfence; fence; stuckonstupid
they have talked of engaging in civil disobedience

I can't wait for Mahatma Gandhi and Henry David Thoreau to make appearances in the Rio Grande.

1 posted on 04/19/2008 10:17:58 PM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

The only species we should be concerned about is the species coming across the border illegally.


2 posted on 04/19/2008 10:22:11 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: Aristotelian

What’s so funny about this is that the DMZ between North and South Korea is one of the most pristine areas in the world.

I guess the walls on both sides of the DMZ are made of a different kind of material. /s


3 posted on 04/19/2008 10:22:22 PM PDT by The Black Knight (I don't care who's running this year, I'm voting for Reagan...)
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To: Aristotelian

How about the endangered species called “Americanus Citizenus”


4 posted on 04/19/2008 10:22:37 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Aristotelian

Allison , Healy meet Rachel.......welcome to stupid.


5 posted on 04/19/2008 10:22:48 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: Aristotelian

As always, never a word about the destruction wrought by the illegal traffic, their mounds of trash and feces or the fires they set.


6 posted on 04/19/2008 10:22:48 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Aristotelian

“They are the only remaining population on U.S. soil, and the five surveillance towers that the administration plans to build in the area will be in the middle of the pronghorns’ range, producing noise and human activity that would disturb the sensitive species.”

Millions of Illegals, drug runners, their getaway 4x4s and tons of trash don’t cause any disturbance?


7 posted on 04/19/2008 10:25:05 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Aristotelian

“They are the only remaining population on U.S. soil, and the five surveillance towers that the administration plans to build in the area will be in the middle of the pronghorns’ range, producing noise and human activity that would disturb the sensitive species.”

Millions of Illegals, drug runners, their getaway 4x4s and tons of trash don’t cause any disturbance?


8 posted on 04/19/2008 10:26:11 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Aristotelian

I’m surprised the reporter didn’t try to work Global Warming into the article.


9 posted on 04/19/2008 10:28:44 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Old Flat Toad

That which they refuse to see will never impact endangered species.


10 posted on 04/19/2008 10:35:21 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Aristotelian

If the wall threatens the Dust Mouse or the Mexican Jumping Bean, that’s the price we have to pay.


11 posted on 04/19/2008 10:41:43 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: taxesareforever

“The only species we should be concerned about is the species coming across the border illegally.”

You mean the wild North American River jumper?


12 posted on 04/19/2008 10:45:57 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: sinanju
"As always, never a word about the destruction wrought by the illegal traffic, their mounds of trash and feces or the fires they set."

Not to mention infectious diseases (resistant TB, etc...)

And all the car smashes and crime committed by the illegals....

13 posted on 04/19/2008 10:46:35 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Aristotelian

And those species are otherwise doing great being turned into burritos by the hungry “migrants”.


14 posted on 04/19/2008 10:50:18 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
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To: Aristotelian
PROSSER: Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?

ARTHUR: How much?

PROSSER: None at all
15 posted on 04/19/2008 10:53:36 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
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To: Aristotelian
The illegals are trashing the parks and wilderness all along our southern border.
If these morons want the illegals here so badly them they need to pay for all the excess education, medical, and welfare benefits that are a direct result of our open borders.
16 posted on 04/19/2008 10:54:43 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: taxesareforever

I dont think illegals are about to be listed as endangered species anytime soon. Wishful thinking.


17 posted on 04/19/2008 10:55:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Aristotelian
Proving once again that the far left use enviornmentism
to undermine the sovereignty of the USA.
18 posted on 04/19/2008 11:05:47 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Aristotelian
"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors," Healy Hamilton, who directs the Center for Biodiversity Research and Information at the California Academy of Sciences, told colleagues at a recent scientific retreat here.

"This is one thing we might be able to stop."

Breathing?

19 posted on 04/19/2008 11:13:16 PM PDT by norton
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To: Aristotelian
"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors,"

And I am hereby volunteering to drive whatever (preferably a brand new Abrams) right over this moonbat and permanently embed his useless carcass into Terra Firma and turn him into to compost on which these endangered species can then feast on.

20 posted on 04/19/2008 11:22:19 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Aristotelian

They’re already engaging in civil disobedience. All 20 + millions of them.


21 posted on 04/19/2008 11:23:55 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Aristotelian
"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors," Healy Hamilton

Rachel Corey wannabe.

22 posted on 04/19/2008 11:44:07 PM PDT by chemicalman (If politicians worked off commissions, they'd all be broke from accomplishing nothing.)
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To: Aristotelian

As others have said on this thread, somehow the wildlife is never “fragile” or “sensitive” when it comes to millions of Mexican immigrants tromping through their habitat, dumping trash and human waste.

The attitudes expressed in this story are pure politics. They are completely science-free.


23 posted on 04/19/2008 11:51:58 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Aristotelian

Scientific Exodus

Scientists along the U.S.-Mexico border are fleeing the region, saying their work — and their lives — are increasingly threatened. Tighter border security has pushed drug traffickers into the most remote areas where the scientists say they do most of their work.

Some national parks have now stopped issuing research permits and have even forced scientists to sign statements saying the Park Service cannot guarantee their safety from persons entering the country from Mexico.

One scientist who uses night-vision goggles to study rare bats in the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument says that on a nightly basis she sees men with guns and huge backpacks trudging through the desert. The scientists say huge swaths of the region are now off limits due to armed drug smugglers. As one botanist put it, “I got kind of allergic to pistols being held to my forehead.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318656,00.html


24 posted on 04/20/2008 12:14:06 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Aristotelian
"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors," Healy Hamilton, who directs the Center for Biodiversity Research and Information at the California Academy of Sciences, told colleagues at a recent scientific retreat here. "This is one thing we might be able to stop."

"Make it 13!" said Allison Jones, a conservation biologist at the Wild Utah Project, an advocacy group.

Not much tops a bunch of pansies trying to play badass.

25 posted on 04/20/2008 12:45:21 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - The Original Slave Owners)
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To: The Black Knight
What’s so funny about this is that the DMZ between North and South Korea is one of the most pristine areas in the world.

Don't say that too loud, the enviromentals will start planting mines around our national parks to keep humans out.

26 posted on 04/20/2008 2:43:13 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Aristotelian

“I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors,”

Fire-up the CATs!


27 posted on 04/20/2008 3:09:10 AM PDT by do not press 2 for spanish
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To: Aristotelian

Bet that the real reason the “scientists” oppose the barrier is to support illegal crossing.


28 posted on 04/20/2008 3:45:23 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Aristotelian
"This wall is so asinine, and so wrong, I am one of a dozen scientists ready to lay our bodies down in front of tractors," Healy Hamilton,

Welcome to the Rachael Corrie pancake society

29 posted on 04/20/2008 3:58:51 AM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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To: do not press 2 for spanish

Human shields run when the tractors come....Remember Iraq and the human shields..?
Our military had to protect them while they fled back.ha.

To portect the species that are endangered i suggest we send code Pink members down to the border to stand guard so we don’t have to build a wall! Let’s call on Berkely to do their part to protect the ‘species.”!!


30 posted on 04/20/2008 5:25:58 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie ( WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !!)
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To: Aristotelian

It will endanger the illegalus rodentus species, that’s for sure.


31 posted on 04/20/2008 5:49:53 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: The Black Knight
I find it amusing that you can hunt these endangered pronghorn antelopes in Mexico.
32 posted on 04/20/2008 5:56:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Good idea!


33 posted on 04/20/2008 8:08:45 PM PDT by do not press 2 for spanish
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