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Octopus twirl now illegal, punishable by $10,000 fine (NHL)
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| 4-20-07
| George James Malik
Posted on 04/20/2008 12:27:16 PM PDT by Darren McCarty
Posted by George James Malik April 19, 2008 08:29AM According to the Free Press's Helene St. James, the NHL has banned Al Sobotka's classic twirling of octopi at Joe Louis Arena:
April 18, Detroit Free Press: Just a little tidbit from Joe Louis Arena: The NHL has decided octopus twirling doesn't fit in with league image, or something to that effect.
The Wings have been told by the league that if Al Sobotka (or anyone else) twirls the octopus that's thrown onto the ice before playoff games, it'll cost the team $10,000.
I know opposing general managers have complained of this tradition because stuff flies off the octopus and sticks to the ice, but this is such a recognizable Detroit tradition.
One landed, just after the game, on the ice before Game 5, as usual. Nashville defenseman Greg Zanon skated by and whacked it aside with his stick.
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Chris Osgood describes the situation as any Red Wings fan would:
"Certain teams and certain traditions, they should just leave them alone," the Wings' Chris Osgood said. "It's a shame. It's great for the atmosphere, and the fans love it. The league should ask the fans first before they do anything. That's who pays to get into the rink and see the game."
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.mlive.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: garybettman; hockey; nhl; octopus; octopussy; octopustwirling; redwings
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Much as the NFL is called the no fun league, Gary Bettman (Buttman) has done the same to the great sport of hockey. More than any other person, this non-hockey jackass has done his best to run a great sport into the ground with his disrespect of tradition.
There's a reason Bettman is booed out of more arenas than Chris Chelios at road games. Clarence Campbell is rolling in his grave.
To: Darren McCarty
What the heck is an octopus twirl?
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:34:02 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: Darren McCarty
I immediately thought of Squidward in a tutu.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:35:17 PM PDT
by
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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At Red Wings home games, some fans throw an Octopus on the ice. It's an old tradition from the 1952 Red Wings team that won eight games to win the Stanley Cup.
Al used to take the Octopus, and on his way off the ice, swings the octopus around like fans swing towels at games.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:37:23 PM PDT
by
Darren McCarty
(Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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Jerry Mendoza/Associated Press
Al Sobotka, the Zamboni driver at Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, twirling an octopus, a ritual at home playoff games.
I never knew this as a tradition, seems pretty weird to me.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:37:51 PM PDT
by
Popman
(Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
To: Darren McCarty
"Twirling the octopus?"
Is that what they call it these days?
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:37:58 PM PDT
by
Dr.Deth
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I dunno, but it looks something like this.
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In Detroit it’s become a tradition for fans to toss an octopus onto the ice during playoff games. It started when the Stanley Cup playoffs were two rounds, meaning that it took eight playoff victories to win the championship. The “octopus twirl” is where the player who picks it up from the ice twirls it over his head a few times.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:39:13 PM PDT
by
Squawk 8888
(TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
To: Darren McCarty
I don’t have a clue what this has to do with politics. Please post this stuff over on Sports Illustrated. Thank you. Thank you.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:39:29 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(www.BulletBras.net)
To: Darren McCarty
"More than any other person, this non-hockey jackass [Bettman] has done his best to run a great sport into the ground with his disrespect of tradition."
Worth repeating...
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:41:14 PM PDT
by
penowa
To: Darren McCarty
Ummm... Really? WOW!
The ramifications should change the course of events in the free world.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:41:25 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(www.BulletBras.net)
To: Darren McCarty
Isn't it crueler to throw the octopus onto the ice, than to twirl it.
Can they replace it with a midget toss?
Cat Juggling?
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:41:56 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: Popman
I never knew this as a tradition, seems pretty weird to me.”
When you are stuck in Detroit for the winter, anything can happen. You look for your “traditions” where ever you can find them.
To: processing please hold
What the heck is an octopus twirl?
To: miliantnutcase
That’s a picture I can’t get out of my mind. :)
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:46:52 PM PDT
by
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: DannyTN; Darren McCarty
To: Darren McCarty
And the harm in this is, What?
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:49:48 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
To: Darren McCarty
At Red Wings home games, some fans throw an Octopus on the ice. It's an old tradition from the 1952 Red Wings team that won eight games to win the Stanley Cup.Al used to take the Octopus, and on his way off the ice, swings the octopus around like fans swing towels at games.
I thought maybe it was a metaphor, not to be confused with metefore. :)
Thanks, I learned something new today - Octopus Twirl.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:51:17 PM PDT
by
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: Darren McCarty
An earlier thread said that twirling the octopus could prevent prostate cancer. No,.. wait. Maybe that was something else.
To: Popman
Weird to me too. Thanks for the picture. He could never get away doing that to Squidward.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:52:55 PM PDT
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: martin_fierro
And why do they call them tentacles when they’re only eight of ‘em?
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:53:41 PM PDT
by
mikrofon
(Total Non-seq)
To: Darren McCarty
Can't say that I can think of a comparable sport ritual involving the desecration of a real dead animal's body.
They used to throw rubber chickens on the ice for a bad call, and hats for a “hat trick.”
I'm no animal right wacko, but this is just weird.
To: martin_fierro
Is peta involved in this decision? I see no harm in it.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:54:18 PM PDT
by
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: Squawk 8888
It looks like an innocent enough tradition. People sure do get twisted in a knot easily today.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:57:01 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: RGSpincich
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:58:04 PM PDT
by
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( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
To: ridesthemiles
When you are stuck in Detroit for the winter, Fixed.
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posted on
04/20/2008 12:58:31 PM PDT
by
mc5cents
(Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
To: Darren McCarty
Mmmm! Octipus tenderized tentacles for the tailgate party outside. Put me at the front of the line.
To: Darren McCarty
Better images

To: RGSpincich
It was twirling a dead cat over your head, at midnight, in a cemetary. Wart removal.
To: afortiori
They used to throw rubber chickens on the ice Throwing a rubber octopus onto the ice would make the PC boss happy?
I think you have something there!
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:01:24 PM PDT
by
TYVets
To: Paleo Conservative

Indeed, the origins of some traditions are hard to explain.
To: Darren McCarty; All
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:08:14 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: afortiori
Octopus twirl, dead cat bounce, dog days of summer, wabbit season, no, duck season.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:09:27 PM PDT
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
To: Darren McCarty
I hope these octopi are dead already. I’m no animal rights nut, but twirling and throwing a live one around seems cruel. However, if it’s dead already, up yours, Bettman!
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:09:39 PM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
To: Darren McCarty
Abusing or tormenting any kind of animal is despicable and cowardly. It shows a lack of humanity.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:15:56 PM PDT
by
Krankor
(kROGER)
To: Krankor
To: driftdiver
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:24:41 PM PDT
by
Krankor
(kROGER)
To: processing please hold
No if PETA were involved they would inject them with poison and then dump them in a garbage bin.
To: ridesthemiles
The tradition of throwing octopus on the ice began back in 1952. Brothers Pete and Gerry Cusimano, being from a fish market family, thought that an octopus would be the perfect good luck symbol for the Red Wings. It had eight legs, and the Wings needed eight straight wins for the Stanley Cup. Made sense to them, anyways.
They brought their first octopus to Game 3 against the Canadiens. Pete threw the octopus on the ice after Gordie Howe scored his first goal. Official George Hays, one of the portlier linesman, skated over to remove it from the ice. When he reached down and saw what it was, both skates came off the ice and he skated away.
Seeing this, Detroit defenseman Marcel Pronovost skated over and hit it with his stick. This caused one of the tentacles to move, and Pronovost decided to skate elsewhere. The players stood around nervously until a groundskeeper removed the octopus with a shovel.
The good luck charm worked, it seems, as Detroit did win in eight straight. [excerpt]
From George Plimpton's "Open Net" book, the Octopus story of which a paraphrased version can be read
HERE
To: Red Steel
That Zamboni driver looks like a dead octopus cut his hair.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:27:55 PM PDT
by
Krankor
(kROGER)
To: processing please hold; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re:
What the heck is an octopus twirl? It is Kramers variation of Jerry's "move." You remember...
the one he didn't want Puddy using in bed with Elaine. The one George ended with a knuckle.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:28:58 PM PDT
by
Bender2
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
To: Cobra64
You read the article and posted twice. Why?
If you don't like the topic, don't read it or waste your precious time posting.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:30:17 PM PDT
by
buccaneer81
(Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Krankor
"Abusing or tormenting any kind of animal is despicable and cowardly. It shows a lack of humanity."
I'm with you on this
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:42:02 PM PDT
by
balls
To: Cobra64
Culture/Society - Discussion of health, education, welfare, drugs, abortion, environment, housing, unions, employment, social security, religion, arts, humanity,
sports, and other cultural and societal issues.
I dont have a clue what this has to do with politics.
Bettman's a democrat.
Please post this stuff over on Sports Illustrated
No.
Hey, you didn't have to click on this thread.
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posted on
04/20/2008 1:57:47 PM PDT
by
Darren McCarty
(Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
To: All
I think I see a market opening up for realistic looking plastic octopus. Better get them out there now and pile them high and watch them fly!
Americans will buy anything.
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posted on
04/20/2008 2:08:02 PM PDT
by
4yearlurker
(I miss Ronnie!!!!!)
To: Darren McCarty
How about if he swings around a plate of deep fried calamari instead?
Would the league fine him?
To: Krankor
Agreed. I assume they are dead given that they don’t do too well out of saltwater. It is, nevertheless, a disgusting “tradition”. If they were twirling around a bucket of phlegm, it would be no less disgusting.
I used to play hockey and I read about the great Detroit teams of the past (terry sawchuck, gordie howe, etc.). I don’t remember ever hearing about this “tradition” until a few years ago. I call BS on the “tradition” claim.
To: DannyTN
“Can they replace it with a midget toss?
Cat Juggling?”
Jihadi killing?
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posted on
04/20/2008 2:49:41 PM PDT
by
Levante
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