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How the world was misled about global warming and now climate change
Canada Free Press ^ | 4/21/08 | Tim Ball

Posted on 04/21/2008 8:55:33 AM PDT by pissant

Once you realize humans are not causing global warming and/or climate change, then you need an explanation for how and why so many people appear to think they are. In two previous articles (Environmental Extremism and Historical and philosophical context of the climate change debate.) we examined the philosophical and historical context of climate change and specifically the focus on humans as the cause.

We explained the philosophical concept of uniformitarianism that dominates western science; the incorrect idea that change is gradual over long periods of time. We looked at how the scientific method of testing the theory that human CO2 was causing warming/climate change was effectively bypassed. Now we need to examine how politics took over climate science through exploitation of public fear and lack of knowledge.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; freetaxmoney4grants; globalwarming; globalwhining; mccain; timball
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I don't "blame" the libs for this hoax. It is expected that socialists will use alarmism to advance their cause. It's right out of the marxist playbook. So ALgore, Obama, Hillary, Greenpeace, etc etc running aroung telling us the 'sky is falling' is their normal and expected behavior.

What is far, far more disturbing is the supposedly conservative party in this country has bought this bullshit hook, line and sinker, after being shamed by the media. McCain is the worst offender. But GWB, the RNC etc is just as culpable.

One more reason to start from scratch and build a genuine conservative coalition.

1 posted on 04/21/2008 8:55:34 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
"But GWB, the RNC etc is just as culpable...."

GWB is simply putting into place plans to thwart the global warming nuts from destroying the USA after he leaves office.

2 posted on 04/21/2008 8:58:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

You don’t fight fraud by admitting that it is a “serious problem”. Sorry, the GOP is complicit in this crap.


3 posted on 04/21/2008 9:00:50 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The world obviously wants Global Warming. So, Global Warming there shall be even if nobody knows exactly what it is.


4 posted on 04/21/2008 9:01:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: pissant

It is a marketing ploy. The product is development of a new tax base, not to replace existing taxes, abut a fertile new source of revenue. Also, these “carbon credits” will become a fine new market for international trading, a way to shift wealth from the affluent to the underdeveloped countries.

For the multilateralists, a win-win.


5 posted on 04/21/2008 9:02:52 AM PDT by alloysteel (Living at large as a toxic curiosity since 1962)
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To: pissant

The Newt/Pelosi commercials are sickening.


6 posted on 04/21/2008 9:03:48 AM PDT by bluerose (Press "1" if you speak English. "Press "2" to disconnect until you can.)
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To: pissant

Nobody knows how to take an issue like global warming, raise hysteria and then bludgeon the opposition over the head with it like the ‘progressives’.

Wimpy conservatives just don’t like to be called names!!!

If carbon caps and trades really does come to pass, I expect every good conservative to be ready to beat the progressives at their own game.


7 posted on 04/21/2008 9:06:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: RightWhale

“The world obviously wants Global Warming.”

Indeed. Bottom line.


8 posted on 04/21/2008 9:07:46 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: pissant; Avocado

NEW FAVORITE WORD ... UNIFORMITARIANISM

We explained the philosophical concept of uniformitarianism that dominates
western science; the incorrect idea that change is gradual over long periods of
time. We looked at how the scientific method of testing the theory that human
CO2 was causing warming/climate change was effectively bypassed. Now we need to
examine how politics took over climate science through exploitation of public
fear and lack of knowledge.


9 posted on 04/21/2008 9:11:33 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: RightWhale

Exactly. The hard of thinking part of the planet’s population needs a cause to get behind to mitigate their miserable, ne’er do well existences. It takes their mind off the crushing self loathing they live with every day of their puny, insignificant lives


10 posted on 04/21/2008 9:14:11 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: pissant

I don’t believe its a Hoax. If Polar caps and Greenland-ice-sheet melt, most of Earth Mass is going to go under water due to 40 foot rise in sea-level. Displaced people would fight for resources and they would obviously dry up fast.

Edgar Cayce, the American Prophet, saw that phenomenon in his dreams hundred years ago.

There is a reason people are gearing up to fight over the new land that is emerging in Greenland. They are not fighing over imaginary ice-field.

There will be impact on the planet when 2.5 Billion Indians and Chinese are burning up fossil fuel almost at the same pace as us. You can’t put that much CO2 in atmosphere and expect no change at all. ACID RAIN was real.

This is why BRILLIANT minds like Newt recgonize that this is not going to be PARTISAN issue anymore. You have to switch to Nuclear Energy and like and not turn all the Corn into fuel to keep food resources healthy and keep burned fossil released in the atmosphere at minimum. This doesn’t mean we should wreck our economy or walk to work as AlGor would have us do. It does mean that we can’t keep it going at the current pace and not have consequences. We won’t turn into Cannibals as Ted Turner would have us believe, but we would face massive starvation amongst other problems.

Stephen Hawkings is one of the most brilliant minds of ALL Time. Is he in on the hoax? Only ones who do not believe its real is Conservative-Talk-Radio-Verbahideen and Fox News Anchor. I would take Stephen Hawkings word over Sean Hannity, if you don’t mind.

There will be flood. Be careful when you drink other people’s milkshake!


11 posted on 04/21/2008 9:16:37 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: pissant

Well said, all of it!


12 posted on 04/21/2008 9:18:02 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: pissant
What is far, far more disturbing is the supposedly conservative party in this country has bought this bullshit hook, line and sinker, after being shamed by the media. McCain is the worst offender. But GWB, the RNC etc are just as culpable.

They repeat the lies. Our economy dies.

13 posted on 04/21/2008 9:20:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Double Domestic Crude Production. Increase refining capacity 50 percent)
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To: pissant
The real agenda behind the "global warming" hoax is not a concern for the environment but to use people's regard for it as a Trojan Horse to expand big government and narrow people's life choices to those considered acceptable by the elite.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 04/21/2008 9:22:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: The_Republican
Are really this dense? There are many scientists who argue that there is absolutely no proof OF MAN-MADE Global warming. CO2 is an essential part of life, not a pollutant. Many scientists believe the effects of the Sun are not being accounted for.
15 posted on 04/21/2008 9:24:54 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: alloysteel

Just follow the money and you will see where global warming leads you. Just exactly what is a “Carbon Credit”? Is it something you can hold in your hand or just a figment of your imagination and something that just makes you feel like you are doing something?


16 posted on 04/21/2008 9:25:15 AM PDT by RC2
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To: alloysteel
Seems like that to me also.

It is also a way to reduce the world leverage of the oil exporting countries, primarily Arab.

Not that I object to the latter, but deception, manipulation, scientific mendacity, is not the way to do it; given that the intelligent people are going to see through the whole thing, and become more cynical than ever about the global politics.

Watch the Council on Foreign Relations. These are ugly people. Arrogant yuppies, kinda, those who know what's best for everyone, yet couldn't tell you the actual molecular weight of the gases they indict.

17 posted on 04/21/2008 9:28:17 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: ohioman

When you have to resort to insults, your point must be weak. The “Maverick Scientists” who disagree are few and far in between.

You simply have to ask yourself two questions:

What impact would it have on sea-levels if Polar Caps and Greenland Ice-sheet melt?

Is there evidence that melting is occurring as we speak?

Don’t think you need to work too hard to get answers to those questions. BOTH GOP and DEMS now recognize that we can’t ignore this issue because its not a political issue but it impacts future human survival.

Stephen Hawkings vs Sean Hannity! What is a “joke” Alex?


18 posted on 04/21/2008 9:29:09 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: The_Republican

Are you the Little God of Global Warming today? What will happen, will happen.....YOU/WE are NOT in charge....sure we can do SOME things....but, hate to tell you this...YOU can’t control everything!


19 posted on 04/21/2008 9:31:16 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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Ping..


20 posted on 04/21/2008 9:31:20 AM PDT by Rabble
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To: The_Republican
Edgar Cayce, the American Prophet, saw that phenomenon in his dreams hundred years ago.

Edgar Cayce, the American Prophet Nutcase...

You expect to be taken seriously because Edgar Cayce had a vision of rising sea levels?

21 posted on 04/21/2008 9:35:04 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: goodnesswins

That I agree with! Que Sera Que Sara....what will be....will be.....one of my favorite songs.

And what WILL be is that life will go on except few Billions who would not.

Incas, one of the greatest civilization of its own time disappeared in less than 80 years. Even now we find temples covered up by rain-forest. We find evidence of farming in what is now Sahara. Same is true for Gobi Desert - evidence of thriving Civilizations. There are Viking villages buried under the ice-sheet in Greenland.

So yeah, what will be....will be.

Some say that if you limit amount of CO2 that you release in the year, you can prevent the Polar Caps from melting. Thus the efforts underway to keep the planet the way we know it. Otherwise, there it would just be different and that will be that.


22 posted on 04/21/2008 9:36:42 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: pissant
Global Warming is Cool.
23 posted on 04/21/2008 9:37:21 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yes. I have read about Edgar Cayce and his work. Seemed like a reasonable descent Human Being. Read more about him before you go off the handle. I don’ know if everything he said is true. However, there are many things he predicted that have come true. So its just one point out there.


24 posted on 04/21/2008 9:38:21 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: avacado
Try this on for size. If GWB or anyone else was to say publicly the the global warming, CO2, etc. problems were all hogwash, the green ninnies, environmental wackos and the American press would crucify them. Worse yet, the Donks would have a heyday with it.
25 posted on 04/21/2008 9:38:42 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: The_Republican
"Some say that if you limit amount of CO2 that you release in the year, you can prevent the Polar Caps from melting.

uh huh.....I was just reading last night about the water shortages that futurists are worried about.....sorry, I'm NOT worried about the ice caps melting.....as civilization progresses we figure out ways to deal with issues....at least those who live in the 21st century.

26 posted on 04/21/2008 9:42:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: The_Republican

Ah, you’re putting us all on, right?


27 posted on 04/21/2008 9:42:13 AM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: pissant; All

Green = Socialist

the end.

all we need is a montage of the world’s socialist aka green parties and we see the pattern.


28 posted on 04/21/2008 9:43:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pissant; All
Recieved this in an email this a.m., intersesting test...

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html

29 posted on 04/21/2008 9:44:34 AM PDT by The SISU kid (I feel really homesick all the time & so do all the other aliens.....)
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To: RightWhale
The world obviously wants Global Warming. So, Global Warming there shall be ...

The world obviously wants Communism - so, Communism there shall be?

30 posted on 04/21/2008 9:44:34 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tueffelhunden

How does the Kool-Aid taste?


31 posted on 04/21/2008 9:47:44 AM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: goodnesswins

I love everything you say! We would indeed find out ways to deal with it as Civilization progresses. Step #1 - limit the amount of CO2 released in atomosphere by finding sources of energy besides burning fossil fuels. Even today in US we get half of our Electricity by buring Oil. How stupid is that? It costs more, hurts economy, hurts enviorment, finances our enemies. France gets 80%+ of its Electricity from Nuclear Energy. Its cheapest, greenest and safest. In less than 5 years, if we had a leader that can stand up for Nuclear energy, we could have unbelieveable impact on fuel costs, economy and enviorment. Good impact that is!


32 posted on 04/21/2008 9:49:20 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: The_Republican

And Stephen Hawking is a climatologist? Who knew.


33 posted on 04/21/2008 9:49:20 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: alloysteel
product is development of a new tax base

I wish someone would expand on this theme. People who advocate government expansion are no different from those working in other industries; product/service development is an ongoing process.

Socialism should simply be recognized as merely a front for governmental "entrepreneurs". Selling socialism through disaffection via class envy, environmental alarmism, etc is really no different than PG assuring consumers that their smiles will be brighter if they buy new Crest with special formula XYZ.

34 posted on 04/21/2008 9:49:53 AM PDT by semantic
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To: The SISU kid

Prepared by Algore, Inc?


35 posted on 04/21/2008 9:50:51 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

No he is not a supermodel weather girl. But he is brilliant. The man calculated existence of Black Holes and Black Matter before it was proven they exist. You listen to people who think in Mathematics.


36 posted on 04/21/2008 9:51:20 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: pissant
You don’t fight fraud by admitting that it is a “serious problem”

The AGW fraud IS a serious problem, and I believe the President understands this.

37 posted on 04/21/2008 9:52:54 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: pissant

When you get as much publicity as that little man, you are an expert on everything. Just ask him!


38 posted on 04/21/2008 9:54:29 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [Arnold Toynbee])
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To: pissant
Prepared by Algore, Inc?

My 1st thoughts as well, but then I took the test...

8^)

39 posted on 04/21/2008 9:55:23 AM PDT by The SISU kid (I feel really homesick all the time & so do all the other aliens.....)
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To: The_Republican

There won’t be a flood. God said so in Genesis 9. And, would take God’s word over Edgar Cayce, if you don’t mind.


40 posted on 04/21/2008 9:55:50 AM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: The_Republican

you are confusing global warming/climate change with mere polution.

Many cities have addressed the simple issue of polution without going into the nonsense of eco-wackoism.

BTW the acid rain was supposed to make the earth unlivable in 2000. We seemed to have survived that too.

Polution is polution. Pull out the crying indian commercial, clean up our own space and move on.


41 posted on 04/21/2008 9:56:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: The_Republican

Not if he doesn’t know anything about the subject, which he doesn’t. The crow the GW alarmist have had to eat this year is amazing. Planet temperature has actually decreased the last 10 years, not risen. Hence the new name: ‘Climate Change’.


42 posted on 04/21/2008 9:56:30 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: The_Republican
I agree about nuke energy....but, I do NOT agree about CO2 being the problem......it's the SUN.....and I sure would like some GLOBAL WARMING where I live SOON!!!!!
43 posted on 04/21/2008 9:57:58 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: longtermmemmory

Improper amount of CO2, can trap too much heat and cause melting of large ice-masses. Rise in sea-levels would lead all kind of problems. So in some ways those two problems are not completely independent.


44 posted on 04/21/2008 9:59:06 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Edgar Cayce was a con man in the same mold as the global warming alarmists.
It is quite fitting to connect him with today’s hoax.


45 posted on 04/21/2008 10:02:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Hiddigeigei; The_Republican

yes, brilliant on all subjects, this Hawking guy...

Scientist Stephen Hawking Decries Iraq War

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266990/posts


46 posted on 04/21/2008 10:02:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ShasheMac

There are floods every year. So maybe you mean one giant Global flood? Like I said, the whole world is not going down, but most coastal areas would - if Sea Level rises based on polar cap melting. So may be its not a technical violation of what you are referring.


47 posted on 04/21/2008 10:03:22 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: calcowgirl

Bingo.


48 posted on 04/21/2008 10:03:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Oh wow! Because he decries Iraq war, he has to be ignored? ROTFLMAO! I can’t argue with such facts.


49 posted on 04/21/2008 10:04:43 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: calcowgirl

Con man that you know nothing about.

What a GREAT CON! Talk about land masses going under water! What a great way to make NO MONEY and die practically broke. Whatever money you do make, spend it on the HOSPITAL you built to help people. Suggest remedies like drilling a nail in someones’ knee to help them walk again, and then NYT picks up on that story and covers it in detail AT THE TIME and recognizes that a man with NO MEDICAL TRAINING suggested a surgery that works.

Back then there was NO phenomenon known as Global Warming. For someone to foresee exact same events that TODAY scientists are just coming to grips with is nothing short of brilliant.

What money did he make from coming up with these fake Global Warming crisis?

Also, he was one of the MOST devout Christians that I have ever read about. Always talked about Prince of Peace! Talked about RUSSIA and yes CHINA becoming future cradles of Christianity (long before Iron Curtain went down).

Read about him first. Tell me what did he con you with?


50 posted on 04/21/2008 10:09:29 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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