Skip to comments.Hamas Offers Israel 10-Year Truce in Exchange for Border Reform
Posted on 04/21/2008 11:16:05 AM PDT by forkinsocket
Khaled Mashaal, the leader of Palestinian militant group Hamas, has said their organization would be willing to offer Israel a 10-year truce if Israel were to remove itself from the lands it seized during the 1967 Middle East War.
Mashaal has said he made the offer on Saturday while speaking with former U.S. President Jimmy Carter and while the Hamas leader hinted that a Palestinian state would be limited to the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem there was no outright declaration that they would recognize Israel.
During Carters talk with Mashaal the Hamas leader said his organization would not look to block a peace deal between Palestinian President Moahmoud Abbas and Israel so long as Palestinians favored the deal.
Israel has not responded to Mashaal and view Hamas as the United States does, a terrorist organization. Israel has recognized that a Palestinian state should exist they have never expressed a willingness to return to the borders created prior to 1967.
“Border Reform”?????? That’s rich.
Guess what happens in 11 years?!
That’s sounds like a deal. NOT
Ten year truce? Border “reform”? These jihadist ass-clowns are almost funny!
“Israel has recognized that a Palestinian state should exist they have never expressed a willingness to return to the borders created prior to 1967.”
Nor should they.
Why would you make a deal with a bunch of proven murderers and liars?
LOL. grrrreeeat deal.
Didn’t Muhammed offer a similar 10-year “Hudna” while he prepared to destroy the rival tribes?
Even if Hamas pretended to offer a real peace treaty and not this bogus “10 year” pause the Islamo-jihad scumbags cannot be trusted.
Jimmy Peanut is a dangerous nutjob.
Carter has to be this generation's Neville Chamberlain.
“Why would you make a deal with a bunch of proven murderers and liars?”
Yup, and in one large respect, they’ve been very honest about their real goal of destroying Israel.
How can we tell if the Muzzies are lying?
Don’t need to.
Hamas is straight-up Islaamist, push-Israel-into-the-sea. They’ve always been honest about that.
Jimmuh Carter’s Peace Plan. Extra crispy, please. BTW, did I mention that Jimmy is a liberal/Marxist/Democrat?
I’m not sure what is more entertaining: the hubris of this demand or the cravenness of Carter.
Wow, what a deal!
Israel gives up a bunch of land PERMANENTLY and Hamas “promises” to not blow up Israeli citizens for 10 years, a promise they can’t keep, a promise they don’t want to keep, and a promise that doesn’t mean anything even if they could keep it, since the land is forever and 10 years is only 10 years.
My counteroffer for Hamas would be they would get one more day to consume oxygen for every day they stopped their attacks.
This is rich, Israel has been trying to get the ragheads to form a government to turn these crapholes over to since ‘67 and they can’t come up with one.
And then broke the truce after a few years, as soon as he felt he could win. Truces with Hamas are worthless, and always seem to follow the pattern "we'll promise peace in exchange for X, and as soon as we have X then we'll violate all our promises"
You insult the honorable PM Chamberlain. He eventually learned and declared war on Hitler, less than one year after holding up that paper.
Carter still doesn't get it.
Somebody’s got to step up and be a great politician and get things straightened out between Israel and Palestine. It may take a man of the greatness of Gandhi, representing the Palestinians, to pull it off. But something’s got to give. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict generates more ill will amongst the Muslims than anything else. Until it’s resolved, there will be no end to suicide bombers targeting Israel, Europe and America.
“”According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi’i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: “if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud” (’Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).””
Mohammad also broke that truce after 2 years.
Carter is an ass, no question about it.
“Hamas” might agree to no more attacks for ten years, but what about all the splinter groups supported and encouraged by Hamas? Israel would be insane to agree to this. Unfortunately, that pretty much describes much of their present leadership.
Someone has confused days with years.
Any truce will be broken in days, and we know who will break it.
Any respite will be used to re-arm.
Rockets will fly before the ink is dry.
Someone needs to start engraving ol’ Jimmah’s name on the Nobel Peace Prize. They love to award it to morons and traitors.
A- You can’t trust anything a Muslim says in negotiations because they have the moral leeway to lie if it serves their interest.
B- Why only 10 years?
I would suggest that Israel remember what happened with the “10-year truce” that Mohammed made with Mecca.
This article is a little short of the details found in some others on this topic, which include the tidbit that Mashaal said that Hamas will never recognize Israel.
Do you negotiate with a rattlesnake? Do you “straighten things out” with a Great White Shark? Do you come to an agreement with a cobra? If you do, you’re an idiot.
So what’s your solution?
We won’t kill you for ten years if you give us what we want. That’s not a deal....That’s a threat. Carter is sooooo dumb.
Let’s fire up the wayback machine and go back in time and ask WWSD - What would Sherman do?
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War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say give them all they want.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will.
I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy.
The scenes on this field would have cured anybody of war.
War is at best barbarism. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell.
Israel should give Palestinians their pre-1948 borders.
“What do Palestinian ceasefires mean?”
“While interpreted abroad as a ceasefire, the term hudna was seen by the Palestinian terror groups and their supporters in the Arab world as a mere tactical truce in keeping with Islamic history. In the year 628, when the prophet Mohammed considered his forces to be too weak to overcome the rival Kuraysh tribes, he concluded with them a ten-year truce (hudna) referred to as the Hudaybiya accord. Less than two years later, having consolidated their power, the Muslim forces attacked the Kuraysh tribes and defeated them, thereby enabling Mohammed to conquer Mecca.”
I think that Hamas is serious about border reform. They want to dissolve the borders Israel now shares with its Arab neighbors and reform them on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea.
watch as the leftist morons line up to believe this crap
Why 10 years?
There will be no fighting for ten years. Anyone who wishes to join Muhammad (SAW) and to enter into any agreement with him is free to do so. Anyone who wishes to join the Quraish and to enter into any agreement with them is free to do so.
I’ve got a better plan.
Israel should seize a 2-mile wide security strip along the Gaza border, clear it, and fence it, and then offer Hamas a 10-year truce. If Hamas violates the truce, they take another 2-mile wide strip, clear it and fence it. And then repeat the offer.
As many times as it takes until they get the message, or they’ve been pushed into Egypt.