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Obama Goes for the Kill in Pennsylvania, Negatively
The New York Observer ^ | April 21, 2008 | Jason Horowtz

Posted on 04/21/2008 9:46:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

PHILADELPHIA—Barack Obama’s final push through Pennsylvania has shown the combative, angry side of a candidate and campaign that had once been defined by its good cheer and condemnation of negative tactics. Despite the trappings of cheeriness—old-timey whistle-stop train tour, frequent professions of “love” for supporters—Obama’s closing argument was a distinctly negative one, designed to give the state’s significant percentage of undecided voters an uneasy feeling about Clinton, who is the Tuesday primary’s favorite, and to start laying the groundwork for his criticism of Republican nominee John McCain.

At a number of well-attended public appearances, Obama depicted Clinton as a divisive, disingenuous Democratic agent of the Republican attack machine—a dishonest politician willing, in her desperation, to take the party down with her.

And while Obama characterized his criticisms as reasons to reject Clinton’s negative politics, he displayed an unmistakably negative edge of his own, most notably when his campaign held a conference call with Bosnia veterans that questioned Clinton’s fitness to visit the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

It all started innocently enough.

On Saturday morning, in Philadelphia’s 30th Street Station, yellow tape, secret service agents and metal detectors cordoned off the steps leading down to track 10, where Obama met the “Georgia 300,” a royal blue 1930 railcar covered in bunting and signs that said “On Track For Change.”

"Let's get on this train," said Obama. Inside there was a bed to sleep in, a wooden dresser, a small conference room, and room with flowers and a double sink. The kitchen had a stove and microwave and oil and vinegar on the shelves. Obama greeted Amtrak workers and pointed amicably at the press before they were sent unceremoniously down to the opposite car, a regular Amtrak train. He shouted to some Pittsburgh-bound day trippers waiting across the track. "Tell everyone there I said hello" and pulled the train’s whistle and exclaimed, "That is too much fun."

Throughout the day, Obama projected a sunny disposition as he campaigned in rolled-up sleeves and slacks. In Wynnewood, Mr. Obama’s first stop, the train pulled in to the lazy, carefree lyrics of Will Smith’s “Summertime” and a cheering crowd greeted the candidate with his face on their t-shirts and his name on their stickers.

Then he started talking about his opponent.

He said that she was “throwing everything at me and seeing if something sticks,” and then: “She’s taken different positions at different times on issues as fundamental as trade, or even the war, to suit the politics of the moment. And when she gets caught at it, the notion is, well, you know what, that’s just politics.”

One woman in the crowd, Lisa Barsky, 55, a psychologist from nearby Bala Cynwyd described herself as a “shifter” who had moved her support from Clinton to Obama because she considered him a greater unifying force. Still, she was a little put off by his attacks.

“I wish he wouldn’t,” she said. “He can be strong. But you don’t have to get down to somebody’s level -- you don’t have to get into the fistfight.”

Obama got back on the train car. The whistle blew and the crowd cheered. Along the track, as the train slowly rolled by, farmers waved and smiled and he smiled back.

But Obama was only getting warmed up. His attacks on Clinton sharpened.

“Her basic argument is that the slash-and burn, say-anything, do-anything, special-interest-driven politics is how it works,” he said, speaking in front of a small train station with a rusted roof. “And so she has taken more money than any other candidate, Democrat or Republican combined. She also believes that the nature of politics is that you say what the people want to hear. So maybe you say something about trade when you are campaigning with your husband eight, ten, 12 years ago and you say something different now that you are out campaigning in Ohio, Pennsylvania. Maybe you say one thing about the war when it looks like the war is popular and maybe you say something else about the war when it gets to be unpopular.”

“What’s happened is,” he continued, “Senator Clinton has internalized a lot of the strategies and tactics that have made Washington such a miserable place, where all we do is bicker and all we do is fight.”

After Obama finished speaking and signing books, Belinda Chambers, a 48-year-old information technology worker from Berwyn, angled her iPhone for a shot at the candidate as he made his way back to the train. She said she didn’t begrudge Obama for his sharper approach.

“I don’t know how he could survive in Washington without some of their tactics,” she said.

The Obama campaign says the nastier tack is a necessary one. According to one staffer, speaking on background, Obama needed to make clear the distinction between the candidates and hit Clinton on what the Obama campaign perceives as her greatest vulnerability: trustworthiness. Likewise, according to the staffer, a conference call with Bosnia veterans held by the Obama campaign was intended to raise the question of her credibility by “keeping in the bloodstream” her embarrassingly inaccurate portrayal of a 1996 visit to Bosnia, which she said had taken place under sniper fire.

(During the conference call, one veteran, Walter Stewart, argued that Clinton would not be fit as president to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, because that soldier might have been killed by sniper fire. Stewart said that the point was valid because it constituted “a point of honor.” Under pressure from the Clinton campaign, the Obama campaign eventually distanced itself from the comments.)

In Downington, Obama again called into question Clinton’s credibility. And later, in Lancaster, -- where Obama spoke in front of thousands of people overlooked by rooftop snipers surveying the crowd with binoculars – he said, “Senator Clinton is an intelligent person,” before going on to detail her lesser qualities. He concluded “I’m not interested in mimicking what the Republicans did to the Clintons for 20 years.”

The reaction was mixed.

“A couple of times I said to myself, ‘That’s not true,’” Jill Carney, 51, an undecided Democrat and college teacher from Lancaster, said of Obama’s comments about Clinton and her policies. Asked what effect his more pointed comments had, she responded, “It makes me go the other way.”

The candidate finished the day under the green-tiled dome of the Harrisburg statehouse, surrounded by thousands of onlookers, one of whom held a sign reading “Obama Will Fix Everything.”

“I don’t mind the silly-season politics,” Obama said at a certain point. He argued that the difference between his campaign and Clinton’s was, “We are not trying to feed people cynicism.”

On Sunday, as a high school gym full of Pennsylvanians waited for him to speak in Reading, one undecided voter, Vicky Achenbach, a 27-year-old grad student, said the sniping was inevitable but she hoped Obama wouldn’t go negative. “It’s a shame if he has to go there. I’m sure there’s a lot of other things he could say.”

Obama did have a lot to say. And so did the crowd.

“This is a feisty crowd -- what did y’all eat this morning?” Obama asked.

The crowd was particularly responsive to Obama’s sharp criticisms of John McCain and Hillary Clinton.

“We cannot afford a third George Bush term, and that is what John McCain is offering, a third Bush term,” said Obama. As he has done all weekend, he raced through McCain’s military service by saying “I respect John McCain, he is a real American hero,” but then proceeded to attack the Arizona senator for his position on the war in Iraq.

Eventually, he moved onto an extended criticism of Clinton.

“Senator Clinton is a smart person, she is a hard working person she is a tenacious person,” Obama said, echoing Marc Anthony’s “Brutus is an honorable man,” speech. (Obama ignored the guy in the back of the gym who called out “She lies.”)

“I think we have to change the tone of our politics,” Obama said, in the middle of his rant on Clinton. He added, “Our campaign’s not perfect. You get elbowed enough, eventually, you start throwing some elbows back.”

Achenbach, the grad student who was wary of the negative attacks before Obama spoke, apparently didn’t hear any.

“People need to know where she stands compared to where he stands,” she said after Obama’s speech. “And he did that.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: election; elections; hillary; nobama; obama; stopobama
Thus hath Sir Rush of Limbaugh brought a battle between the two democrats, wherin both shall be destroyed, politically, forthwith. Forsooth.
1 posted on 04/21/2008 9:46:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is their a better description of Hillary?

At a number of well-attended public appearances, Obama depicted Clinton as a divisive, disingenuous Democratic agent of the Republican attack machine—a dishonest politician willing, in her desperation, to take the party down with her.


2 posted on 04/21/2008 9:49:52 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s Pastor Celebrates 9/11 (explicit)
Only 5 Days After 3,000 Americans Killed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzhl-endvco

Jeremiah Wright Says America Deserved 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HUdF9OZa8

Obama: Bitter Americans Cling to Guns and Religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJAl8a3d9Q

Meet Barack Hussein Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onOYL2ZG7fk

Obama’s Racially-Divisive Pastor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA

Obama Disrespecting U.S. Flag and Anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

The Audacity of Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs

The Audacity of Barack Obama 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeC8BE-2T_k

Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Wright & Senator Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Obama’s Pastor - 9/11 Fault of Israel Association

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

Obama - Cult of Personality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7lUGn7HWk

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o

Name Obama’s Accomplishments if you can #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Barack Obama: There Will Be Bamboozling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

The Two Things Senator Obama Accomplished

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/27/obamas-empty-change-message/

The Jeremiah Wright Lifetime Achievement Award

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg

Gaza Strip Palestinians Campaigning for Obama

http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

Barack Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters ‘Punished’ With a Baby

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg


3 posted on 04/21/2008 9:50:27 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thus hath Sir Rush of Limbaugh brought a battle between the two democrats, wherin both shall be destroyed, politically, forthwith. Forsooth.

Forsooner the better.

4 posted on 04/21/2008 9:55:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It could get even better.

Hillary holds a trump card, a Nuclear Option, that no one wants to contemplate.

The Dream Team Hillary/Obama fix was a done deal. The plan was eight years for Hillary, then eight years for ObeyMe. The Democrats had a lock on the Whitehouse for the next 16 years.

What went wrong? Here's my theory:

Obama’s task was to knock John Edwards out in SC, leaving only Hillary and himself standing. When he did better than expected, Michelle got uppity and in their pillow-talk conversations, she whispered into his extremely large ears, “You can have it all now, Barry! You don’t have to be Hillary’s house n*gger for eight years.” Barack went off the reservation.

The DNC and DLC, craven cowards that they are, caved in when ObeyMe played the race card. They reneged on The Deal and pulled the rug from under Hillary. This was a huge strategic blunder, because they did not consider that Hillary still holds the trump card, the Nuclear Option.

Hillary has the power to destroy the Democratic party for at least a generation by simply launching an independent campaign for the Presidency. She won't hesitate to punish the party for betraying her if she is denied the nomination. She has made this threat privately, which explains some of the recent backpedalling.

If the party bosses give Hillary the nomination, they will alienate the segment of their base that has been one of their most consistent voting blocs: the Black voters. The wounds to the party from the subsequent rioting will not heal quickly.

What a quandry. Split the party for 20 years, or split the party for 30 years. Not a fun time to be a Democrat.

However, since the Democrats have always taken Blacks for granted, and figuring they have no place else to go anyway, the conclusion will be to kick ObeyMe to the curb. They will try to mitigate the damage by putting a Black on the ticket after all, probably Harold Ford, Jr. (If the convention center hasn't been burned to the ground before they get that far.)

The best hope for the party leaders is that Obama will self-destruct, giving them political coverage. Otherwise, they are going to have to eat one of their own to save the party.

So, perhaps it's time for Operation Chaos to start clamoring for Hillary to consider a third-party run.

5 posted on 04/21/2008 10:01:16 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: Bobarian

Okay, it’s White House, not Whitehouse. I’m sleepy, not illiterate.


6 posted on 04/21/2008 10:03:10 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Methinks that Sir Obama jumped the gun a bit. He was being prepped for 2016 and became too full of himself. Thusly both Dem candidates have had to show more of their true colors than planned. Lucky for us. They are both severely damaged and likely will not be able to command a majority in November. Phew!!!


7 posted on 04/21/2008 10:06:58 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Bobarian
Hillary has the power to destroy the Democratic party for at least a generation by simply launching an independent campaign for the Presidency. She won't hesitate to punish the party for betraying her if she is denied the nomination. She has made this threat privately, which explains some of the recent backpedalling.

Bump

8 posted on 04/21/2008 10:16:48 PM PDT by Doofer (Carl Cameron Is A Weasel)
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To: The_Republican
You can always tell which candidate is losing. The one that changes his or her campaign is losing. So the candidate of change, the candidate of working together, becomes the attack candidate.

There can only be one reason despite what the MSM says hillary is kicking his a$$ in Pennsylvainia, West Virginia and Indiana.

Obama has to be hurting. That is why he has gone into the attack mode. If his platitudes for change and lets just all get along were working he would still be doing his orginal act. But he is not. And he is getting beat.

Wait for the Returns tomorrow night and you will find out how bad he has lost Pennsylvania.

HIllary's and Obama's internal polls both have shown Hilary with a huge lead for weeks and weeks. The media trierd to tell us that obama was gaining big time. That was a lie and his performance is proof that he is losing.

9 posted on 04/21/2008 10:22:06 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

Well said. I believe the margin would be at least as bad as Ohio.

I hate and fear Hillary more than I fear Obama. I hope he wins Indiana and wrap this thing up. If she pulls this out, for me at least, its time to head to Hills....cause Mac is awesome, but he ain’t taking down a Klinton.


10 posted on 04/21/2008 10:25:10 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: Bobarian
the conclusion will be to kick ObeyMe to the curb.

Obama is the great god of cargo. If he is kicked to the curb, the devils will continue to steal the cargo which has been produced out of thin air by the deities of the bizarre tribe which is much of the Democrat party. He is expected to deliver the cargo to its rightful owners. What has been stolen previously will be recovered via confiscatory taxation, affirmative action, judicial fiat etc. Hillary has become an agent for the devils who steal the cargo from the birds sent by the gods. They are that nuts and they will be very unhappy. Harold Ford won't cut it as a ritual offering.

11 posted on 04/21/2008 10:36:37 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Bobarian

Nicely done....


12 posted on 04/21/2008 10:47:42 PM PDT by Gator113 (Hey Democrats, "I drink your milkshake.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So maybe you say something about trade when you are campaigning with your husband eight, ten, 12 years ago and you say something different now that you are out campaigning in Ohio, Pennsylvania.

As opposed to saying one thing on David Geffen's yacht and something else when he thinks the mike is on?

13 posted on 04/22/2008 12:21:12 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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14 posted on 04/22/2008 12:25:04 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Bobarian
...by simply launching an independent campaign for the Presidency.

We know for sure it won't be as a Bull Moose.
15 posted on 04/22/2008 1:13:58 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: F15Eagle
Palestinians ALWAYS backs the eventual LOSERS!!!

Saddam, Afafat & Co!!

Call it a pre-disposition or Divine destiny but those terroist scum deserves their misery.

16 posted on 04/22/2008 1:43:24 AM PDT by prophetic (God, let Obama speak utter foolishness and confound the wisdom of his counselors)
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To: The_Republican
I hate and fear Hillary more than I fear Obama.

Not me. I can't stand that duffus. No way can he be President. I don't want her either, but he is way worse IMHO.

17 posted on 04/22/2008 1:52:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: The_Republican
He should of said, this is the Democratic Party. It has robbed the United States of an effective opposition party for four decades, with no end in sight and is not likely to be healed anytime soon, whether or not this year's nominee can lure the semi-mythical gun-loving lumpenproletariat. I earnestly hope the Drats will RIP in 2008.
18 posted on 04/22/2008 3:54:12 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: The_Republican
I hate and fear Hillary more than I fear Obama.

Let me make it absolutely clear that I loathe the Clintons.

Having said that, Obama scares the cr*p out of me.
Watching this charismatic snake charmer mesmerize huge crowds into mindless adulation with empty rhetoric and meaningless slogans is appalling. He really could be the Antichrist.

Hillary, the devil we know, being a liberal Dem and a woman might be compelled at least to be strong on defense and the war on terror just to prove conventional wisdom wrong.

Mac is awesome, but he ain’t taking down a Klinton.

Awesome? You may get an argument there. But I guess we'll have to find a reason to like him.

McCain's chances will depend a great deal on his VP choice. I'm hoping his camp has the good sense to put Dr. Rice on the ticket. Two reasons: She's more qualified than McHillBarry, and it would make the Dem's heads explode.

19 posted on 04/22/2008 6:12:06 AM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: All

Still being kept quiet....There are 63 Puerto Rican votes and they will go to Hillary.


20 posted on 04/22/2008 6:21:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: All

Dear Mr. Obama....”I” have the FBI files on all the repubs...You’ll never be able to dig up as much dirt as I can..........Why, look what I’ve dug up on you....and that’s without the files.


21 posted on 04/22/2008 6:23:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” ... and let slip the dogs of war”


22 posted on 04/22/2008 8:42:01 AM PDT by WOSG (Gameplan: Obama beats Hillary, McCain beats Obama, conservatives beat RINOs)
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To: Bobarian

I think there are two camps on the right - those who fear Hillary more - the Brilliant Good Looking and Sexy guys, and those who fear Obama more. LOL!


23 posted on 04/22/2008 9:01:33 AM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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