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Rice: U.S. Warned Carter Not to Talk to Hamas
fox news ^ | 4/22/2008 | ap

Posted on 04/22/2008 3:59:32 AM PDT by tobyhill

KUWAIT CITY — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the Bush administration explicitly warned former President Carter against meeting with members of Hamas, the Palestinian faction that controls the Gaza Strip and which is regarded by the U.S. as a terror group.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carter; globaljihad; gooberpromenade; hamas; jihad; jimmycarter; killerrabbit; mrpeanut; rice; theloganact; traitor; treason; worstexpresident
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1 posted on 04/22/2008 3:59:33 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Revoke his passport.


2 posted on 04/22/2008 4:00:46 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Disgruntled about it all. None of the above.)
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To: GOP_Proud

If that’s the very least that could be done then Rice needs to do it.


4 posted on 04/22/2008 4:02:35 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Classic permissive parenting in action. What’s the consequence, Condi?


5 posted on 04/22/2008 4:02:37 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: tobyhill

Carter comes away empty-handed. The same way America did after one term with him as President.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 4:03:17 AM PDT by DOGEY
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To: don-o

My thoughts zacly...Just like the neigbor with his spoiled brat daughters,”thats it time out”.5 minutes later time outs over and 10 minutes later they do it again.BS.


7 posted on 04/22/2008 4:05:41 AM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: tobyhill

Carter is no better than any other elitist liberal. He thinks he is above the law.


8 posted on 04/22/2008 4:05:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: don-o

That’s exactly correct and she’s prepared to do nothing. This was posted by Fox in the breaking news but as I read the 2 paragraphs I waited for the consequences.


9 posted on 04/22/2008 4:06:12 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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RECAP:

JPOST.com: "13 SOLDIERS HURT, 2 MODERATELY, AS HAMAS ATTACKS KEREM SHALOM" (Updated April 19, 2008, 12:27)

JPOST.com (AP): Damascus, Syria - "CARTER HOLDS SECOND MEETING WITH MASHAAL IN TWO DAYS" (April 10, 2008, 10:51)

JPOST.com (AP, JPOST.com): "CARTER MEETS WITH MASHAAL IN DAMASCUS" (Updated April 19, 2008, 6:12)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News: "U.S. REP CALLS FOR REVOCATION OF CARTER'S PASSPORT" (April 17, 2008)

CNS NEWS.com: "CARTER UNPERTURBED BY ISRAELI OBJECTIONS TO HIS MEETING WITH HAMAS LEADER" by Julie Stahl (April 16, 2008)

TOWNHALL.com: "JIMMY CARTER: EMISSARY OF EVIL" -Column by Ben Shapiro (April 16, 2008)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: Ramallah, West Bank - "CARTER, HAMAS HUG AT 'WARM RECEPTION'" by Dalia Nammari (April 16, 2008)

COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "WHERE DOES AMERICA DRAW THE LINE ON CONSORTING WITH TERROR GROUPS?" by Jeffrey Imm (April 15, 2008, 1:35 pm)

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CNS NEWS.com: "JIMMY CARTER GETS 'SOUVENIR' ROCKET TAIL ON VISIT TO ROCKET-POUNDED SDEROT" by Julie Stahl (April 14, 2008)

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ONE NEWS NOW.com: "BOLTON ACCUSES FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER OF 'OBSTUCTIONISM'" by Jim Brown (April 14, 2008, 6:00 am)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CARTER'S TERROR TOUR" by Jacob Laksin (April 14, 2008)

WorldNetDaily.com: Jerusalem - "HAMAS TERRORISTS JOIN JIMMY CARTER FAN CLUB Top political adviser calls ex-prez 'noble person who can achieve something no one else can'" by Aaron Klein (April 13, 2008)

ONE NEWS NOW.com (AP): "CARTER DEFENDS PLANNED MEETING WITH TERRORIST LEADERS" by Calvin Woodward (April 13, 2008, 6:15 am)

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YNET NEWS.com: "HAMAS THREATENS TO KILL ISRAELI MINISTERS" (Published April 12, 2008, 22:02)

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10 posted on 04/22/2008 4:06:21 AM PDT by Cindy
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Conducting Foreign Relations Without Authority:
The Logan Act

Summary
The Logan Act, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953, states: Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its more than 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a point of challenge concerning dealings with foreign officials. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

11 posted on 04/22/2008 4:06:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: BuffaloJack
He thinks he is above the law.

Considering how Bush never prosecuted other Democrats for doing the same BS that Carter is doing, there's no reason for him or any other Democrat to believe they are above the law.

12 posted on 04/22/2008 4:07:04 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: DOGEY

Lets see, that seven hour Carter meeting surely deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Why not give the old idjit a second worthless award


13 posted on 04/22/2008 4:07:53 AM PDT by doosee
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To: tobyhill

Jimmy Carter is a blankety-blank. I despised him as POTUS, and I despise him now.


16 posted on 04/22/2008 4:15:48 AM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: Recon Dad

and when Carter passes we shall do the same...lol


17 posted on 04/22/2008 4:17:24 AM PDT by Kackikat ((No strong national security, and the rest of issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: GOP_Proud
Revoke his passport

Already in the works!

http://greenpagan.newsvine.com/_news/2008/04/20/1442767-nc-congresswoman-wants-carters-passport-revoked

The only problem with doing this is the political implications it will have in the future when and if the dem's ever get back into the White House. They already want to turn President Bush over to the World Court for war crimes in Iraq, throw him in jail for stealing the 2000 election, and anything else they can dream up. Grampa Carter is one of those crazy old fools that embarrass the family, but is best left alone, to show the rest of the world how nice the family treats their own.

18 posted on 04/22/2008 4:17:47 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: tobyhill

Carter is an enemy of this country, as are most of his left-leaning commie, brain-dead, tree-hugging, spineless cohorts. The man should be treated as such.


20 posted on 04/22/2008 4:21:46 AM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: tobyhill
from the fargin icehole who gave us current day Iran and deposed the Shah's....

........I give you James Earl Carter....the moron who is trying to further destabilize the middle east......

21 posted on 04/22/2008 4:24:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Cindy

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/12/13/cstillwell.DTL


22 posted on 04/22/2008 4:26:11 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: GOP_Proud
Try him for Treason and hang him with a rope made from peanut hulls.

LLS

23 posted on 04/22/2008 4:30:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Thank you.
I’m adding this article to my link set.


24 posted on 04/22/2008 4:30:49 AM PDT by Cindy
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ADDING 1 link to post no. 10:

CINNAMON STILLWELL.com - blog: "JIMMY CARTER'S LEGACY OF FAILURE CONTINUES" (April 14, 2008)

25 posted on 04/22/2008 4:31:29 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: tobyhill
The man is not just stupid, he is senile.

Revoke his passport!!!

26 posted on 04/22/2008 4:32:52 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: pnh102
Considering how Bush never prosecuted other Democrats for doing the same BS that Carter is doing,

Considering that the very first act of the New President Carter, on his first day in office, was to pardon the likes of John Kerry and his treason - meeting 3 times with the Viet Con in Paris while still in uniform, an act that should have put him in jail and prevented, by law, his ever holding any elected office - even dog-catcher - under Constitutional LAW - and considering NO ONE has been charged with the Logan Act in 200 years, I think it disingenuous to single out Pres. Bush as the single slacker here. But hey, never let a chance to slam Bush get away...

There's a motion in the house to yank peanut-brain's passport. That's where the action needs to take place.

And that's where the American people's responsibility lies - flood DC with demands this be enacted. If you don't, YOU are a slacker.

Funny how so-called conservatives want less gov't but sit back and demand gov't do everything without THEM having to raise a hand. This is a participatory gov't. Participate.

I've sent my emails. Have you?

27 posted on 04/22/2008 4:35:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I wish Carter a very dignified and well-attended State funeral.

Ditto for me. I am sick of this moron interjecting his stupidity onto the world stage. I guess he just can't allow himself to realize what an utter failure his presidency was, and meddling this way allows him to keep rejecting the truth of it.
28 posted on 04/22/2008 4:39:00 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: tobyhill

Stop! Or we’ll yell stop again!


29 posted on 04/22/2008 4:40:26 AM PDT by albie
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To: Dixie Yooper

I wasn’t familiar with her, but after briefly browsing her website, I hope McCain is considering her for VP


30 posted on 04/22/2008 4:44:20 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: nuconvert
Back when President Bush was backing the McCain/Kennedy bill, Sue Myrick wrote Bush a letter stating “not just no, but HELL NO to this immigration bill.” I don't think she's what McCain is looking for.
31 posted on 04/22/2008 4:51:35 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: tobyhill

So who paid for the trip? End of issue.


32 posted on 04/22/2008 4:55:38 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Clara Lou
"Jimmy Carter is a blankety-blank. I despised him as POTUS, and I despise him now."

Wow Clara Lou, you sure got that off your chest! :~)

33 posted on 04/22/2008 4:56:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: tobyhill
Carter is incompetent no doubt about that but why anyone continues this charade called the “peace process” is beyond me. It just seems that only events of biblical proportions can resolve this cesspool of hatred.
34 posted on 04/22/2008 4:58:27 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: blackdog

It doesn’t matter who paid because the State Dept reserves the right to tell any American Citizen traveling overseas who they can or can’t meet with.


35 posted on 04/22/2008 5:01:45 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Dixie Yooper

She does sound like much more of a conservative Republican. That’s why I’d like to see her as VP. ;~ )


36 posted on 04/22/2008 5:09:55 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: Archon of the East

37 posted on 04/22/2008 5:14:26 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: nuconvert

You can’t just take someone good and unknown like this and throw them into the VP position. Look what happened to Dan Quayle. The inter/national media would eat her alive.


38 posted on 04/22/2008 5:18:24 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: BuffaloJack

No. He doesn’t recognize that a law exists.


39 posted on 04/22/2008 5:21:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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Unfortunately the article doesn't support the headline, rather confirms Carter's version of events.

"I just don't want there to be any confusion," Rice said. "The United States is not going to deal with Hamas and we had certainly told President Carter that we did not think meeting with Hamas was going to help" further a political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians.

Not thinking it's going to help isn't a warning, it's a meaningless position statement. If the State Dept. didn't want Jimmah meeting with Hamas, then he should have been told No, you can't meet with Hamas, it's against the law for an American citizen to do that without authorization.

40 posted on 04/22/2008 5:22:32 AM PDT by SJackson (before we work on problems, have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation, Michelle O.)
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To: tobyhill

“I did the best I could,” Carter said.

Old man, your best is not, nor has ever been, good enough. Butt out of world affairs.


41 posted on 04/22/2008 5:26:28 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: tobyhill

Jimmy Carter was a mistake in 1976 and every time he opens his mouth. He is not an ambassador for the country but a rogue citizen who happens to have some fading recognition among terrorists. No wonder he and his family supports Obama.

Take away the traitor’s passport and not spend another taxpayer red cent on his treasonous rear.


42 posted on 04/22/2008 5:29:10 AM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel provides Fair and Balanced coverage.)
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To: tobyhill
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the Bush administration explicitly warned former President Carter against meeting with members of Hamas

That did allot of good.

Where is Carter? Oh yeh, meeting with Hamas. Duh!
43 posted on 04/22/2008 5:35:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: tobyhill

Carter, better than anyone, knows that U.S. threats are hollow.


44 posted on 04/22/2008 5:36:29 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: pnh102

Heck: he did the same blasted thing when Clinton was president when he went to N.Korea. I am pretty sure that trip was done in violation to Pres.Clinton’s wishes, and we can see the “fruit” that trip achieved: a faulty “treaty” that basically simply served to “cover” NK’s nuclear program until it was able to come to fruition.

He’s an absolute maroon when it comes to foreign policy - always has been.


45 posted on 04/22/2008 5:39:35 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: tobyhill
First she says that they "warned" him. Then she said that they told him...

"I just don't want there to be any confusion," Rice said. "The United States is not going to deal with Hamas and we had certainly told President Carter that we did not think meeting with Hamas was going to help"

Well which is it Ms. Rice, did you warn him or did you tell him it wouldn't help? I'm confused.

46 posted on 04/22/2008 5:47:13 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Go see Ben Stein's new movie, Do it now!!!!)
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To: tobyhill

But don’t you want to know who paid for the trip? That usually tells it all, but is amazingly missing in most press accounts involving politicians. Who’s over the pond jet did he use, and who was paying his $4.00 per gallon for Jet A, which would be somewhere near 40,000 pounds of fuel in a Gulfstream.


47 posted on 04/22/2008 5:48:51 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’ll drink to that, gimme a Billy Beer!


48 posted on 04/22/2008 5:50:15 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: maine-iac7
Considering that the very first act of the New President Carter, on his first day in office, was to pardon the likes of John Kerry and his treason -
- and considering NO ONE has been charged with the Logan Act in 200 years, I think it disingenuous to single out Pres. Bush as the single slacker here. But hey, never let a chance to slam Bush get away...

Thank you! Pandemic BDS affects all aspects of life.

Treason and sedition already have set a precedent within the US CONgress with Jon EFFIN Carry in 1971.....

Kennedy/Kerry cabal \'70s. jFsKerry - 1971. j F sKerry in VN memorial


...and the treasonous b-turds last April during their little jaunt to meet with terrorist regimes. Lest we forget!

Pelosi to take message from Jerusalem to Syria
Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service
Monday, April 2, 2007
"We have an alternative Democratic foreign policy," Lantos said. "I view my job as beginning with restoring overseas credibility and respect for the United States."

First-term Democrat Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota, a member of the delegation and the first Muslim elected to Congress, said the trip marked another stage in the development of an alternative Democrat strategy toward foreign policy in the Middle East.

The "bipartisan delegation" included GOP members Frank Wolf from Virginia, Pennsylvania's Joe Pitts and Robert Aderholt of Alabama, Ohio's David Hobson. Demonrats Tom Lantos from California, Henry Waxman of Los Angeles, Louise Slaughter of New York and Nick Rahall of West Virginia also joined Nancy and Keith Ellison of Minnesota on this treasonous mission.

REMEMBER!

Nanny Pelousi

Faces of Treason - Treason is the Reason

Somehow I missed the class when we were taught that the losing opposition were permitted to travel the world offering an opposing foreign policy to that of the winning President. But then again, I was out of school when that new policy went into effect in 2001...or was it 2004 that it became popular?

49 posted on 04/22/2008 5:52:28 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Cindy

placemark


50 posted on 04/22/2008 6:00:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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