Posted on 04/22/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.
A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.
It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.
Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.
"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.
Per capita statics do not go by size. They are calculated per 100,000 people. It's the only accurate way to do it.
For example, in Indianapolis Indiana, for every 100,000 people there are 17.5 murders. In LA, Cal for every 100,000 people there are only 12.4 murders. That is a significant difference.
Inside of Greater LA are several Richmond Virginia sized cities-within a city that are 100% 3rd world, with amazing crime rates, and yes, race war, where blacks are shot on sight by invading latinos.
Again, I am referring to the City of Los Angeles. The size of the city boundary is not the issue. Per capita is calculated by per 100,000 within specific city limits.
The term "Greater" Los Angeles means little. Los Angeles City limits are clearly defined on the map, like all other cities.
If there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita *violent* crime than Los Angeles?
If there is a race war going on, would that not reflect on the crime stats?
Answer, of course it would.
So does Tijuana, that doesn't mean it's still not rapidly becoming a 3rd world crap hole, which it is.
LOL. You are an idiot.
The unfortunate fact is, most of America is going that way. You can't flood any country with 40,000,000 illegal aliens from 3rd world environments, and not expect the entire country to follow the trend.
Just the way it is. You can thank you're federal government. The fist rots from the head.
After you declined to answer the question 3 times, I am not really too surprised.
Awesome post WD.......makes me want too post my good and bad locations over my career as well.........:o)
Stay safe Sir , Hope yer well !
Believe me, it’s accurate. LA is lost forever. It is a Third World City and sinking daily into the mire.
I could not agree more. What is interesting however, is many continue to cling to the idea that this is somehow restricted or isolated to the southwest. I've traveled all over the this country in the past 7 years or so, and there is no question, it's all going the same way.
Maybe others just refuse to see, that this government sponsored invasion of tens of millions left the southwest region, spreading to all points many years ago, and continues to this day.
Maybe it makes them feel better to ignore the obvious.
I answered your question three times. You are just too dense to comprehend the response. Read the article I linked to you on the gang problem in LA.
No one said whites or asians don’t commit crimes.
But you’re wishful thinking to think the problematic crime rates in our nation are at their hands.
Since you suggested, implied or believe there is a "race war" going on in Los Angeles, why are the per capita violent crimes in Los Angeles lower than most all other major cities in other states?
This is a really simple question, that hopefully you are able to answer in your own words. I know the stats, so I am not interested your links.
Thanks.
I can’t see your picture. Did you post about El Norte? I watched that movie when I was young and will never forget it. I watched it in Spanish and I learned some good curse words that my mom never taught me!
Some people are willfully incapable of understanding statistics.
I was burglarized twice and carjacked in my driveway when I lived in Riverside. I did not report one burglary because of the police response time to burglary calls. The carjacking was reported as a domestic disturbance. I found out later the Riverside Sheriff's officer did not feel like doing all of the paperwork to report that the men had a gun and a knife. I got my car back so he did not even record it as auto theft. Some of them will write things up as whatever brings the least amount of paperwork. The only reason I found this out was that the officer who was the first responder to my burglary call had been the second responder to my carjacking call, and he told me what really happened.
Why do you keep posting this to me? Over and over?
I have never lived in Indianapolis.
You do not have even a basic understanding of what can be done with statistics.
Don't fret friend. I have never live in LA.
Well, I have, and it sucked.
And your understanding of statistics is still woefully inadequate.
Don't fret friend. I have never live in LA.
Well, I have, and it sucked.
And your understanding of statistics is still woefully inadequate.
I stated I never lived there. However, I have worked there and I have a rather intimate knowledge of that particular city. And specifically, how is my understanding of per capita crime stats inadequate?
Please, be specific, as I will be.
Reread my post #143.
Since you suggested, implied or believe there is a “race war” going on in Los Angeles, why are the per capita violent crimes in Los Angeles lower than most all other major cities in other states?
This is a really simple question, that hopefully you are able to answer in your own words. I know the stats, so I am not interested your links.
Thanks.
If that POS Tony "Viva-LaRaza" has his way it sure will be if it isn't already...
And some people are simply not happy living in a craphole and vote with their feet....some locations ARE detrimental to a happy existence....if Rancho Cucamonga CA where I have lived for more than 20 years becomes any more like Ontario CA...(even my Mexican friend from out of town said she couldn't believe how bad it's gotten south of the 10 freeway...ie...full of Mexicans...and maybe you've heard of Ontario's "tent city" on the news??)...I will be leaving as well...and I'm a perpetually happy guy... I just happen to like liviing in a nice setting...
You ARE joking right?....hahahahahahahahah!!!!! Yeah I just hated it before we had all the walls painted with gang graffiti...that wonderful Hispanic form of self-expression...
Yes...and I saw a news bit on armored cars being manufactured in Mexico that stated: "Mexico City is the most dangerous city in the western hemisphere"...but when Mexicans jump the fence into the US they magically stop committing crimes..must be the water...(sarc.)
No es problemo. Sacramento will make sure Orange County subsidizes L.A.
Oh, I forgot, even B-1 Bob Dornan's Orange County district was overrun by third world illegal aliens who voted him out in favor of a Mexican.
yitbos
This will be the fourth and last time I will answer your inane question. First, let's stop trying to make this a comparison between crime rates in various cities. It is about LA and the impact gangs are having on crime and racial friction. If you don't believe that that there is a serious gang problem in LA and the surrounding area, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Second, I provided you with an extensive article about the gang problem in LA, which has been exacerbated by the huge influx of Mexican immigrants, legal and illegal. You discount the article without even bothering to read it. You would rather wallow in ignorance rather than deal with facts. Here are some relevant facts:
1. In 2006 there were 273 gang related murders [out of a total of 480].
2. Gang crime in South Los Angeles spiked 24 percent in 2006, 14 percent in the city overall and more than 60 percent in the San Fernando Valley.
3. From the Mayor of LA: “Los Angeles is the epicenter of the nation’s gang crisis, and an effective assault on gang crime will require increased suppression, intervention and prevention measures,” Villaraigosa said after Rice’s report was released. “Street gangs are responsible for the majority of all the murders in Los Angeles and nearly 70 percent of all the shootings. We must work to address gang violence in a truly comprehensive way.” In other words, gang violence is driving the violent crime rate in LA. Without it, LA's crime rate would be significantly lower.
4. The accelerating current of gang violence is colliding with a growing wave of Hispanic migration from Mexico and Central America into the United States. Hispanic gangs now dominate the hardcore narcotics business nationwide, and they are physically pushing historically entrenched black gangs out of their territories.
5. Last January, a report on gang violence commissioned by the Los Angeles City Council found that the gang epidemic is largely immune to general declines in crime nationwide. In other words, gang crime is surging just as other violent crime is decreasing. And unlike other categories of crime, gangs and gang-related crime are spreading to formerly safe middle-class communities, or, “to a neighborhood near you,” says the report’s author, civil rights attorney Constance Rice.
6. Last January, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa cried uncle, saying that it was time for government and law enforcement to admit they have failed to stop gangs or even understand what they are. He appealed for federal help to make a Marshall Plan–style push to tackle what’s been an intractable problem.
7. The bigger and more dangerous portion of the country’s 800,000-odd gang members are disaffected and marginalized youths looking to identify with something. Of New Jersey’s 38 hardcore Blood sets, 13 are transplanted L.A. gangs, including the Bounty Hunter Bloods from Nickerson Gardens. The migration of gang members out of L.A. is an even spray pattern, the FBI says. Gangs have coalesced most heavily in the Northeast, the country’s most lucrative narcotics market, but they are also moving to the Northwest (San Francisco and Seattle) and across the Midwest and South (Little Rock and Charlotte).
8. At last count, Los Angeles County had more than 714 gangs and 80,000 gang members. That makes one of every hundred county residents either a hardcore soldier in a gang or an “associate” — the getaway drivers, lookouts, “cookers” (people who know how to turn cocaine into crack) and “hooks” (people who direct customers to drug houses) — or an “affiliate,” a gang member with no specific duties.
9. Watts and neighboring Compton, historically and famously black neighborhoods, are already roughly 70 percent Hispanic. Gangbangers in Watts tell me they know they can’t keep up. And they know their fate. “Ten years from now gangs from all other races besides Hispanic are going to be pushed out of everywhere,” Andre says.
In sum, street gangs are responsible for the majority of all the murders in Los Angeles and nearly 70 percent of all the shootings. Racial ‘Cleansing’ in L.A. Federal prosecutors say a powerful Latino gang systematically targeted rival black gang members and innocent black civilians in a reign of terror.
The crime rate in LA is unacceptably high as it is in most major cities in the US. To take any comfort in the fact that "only" 480 people were murdered in 2006 or that there were 1059 cases of forcible rape or 25,289 car thefts because the crime rate in some other major cities may be higher per capita is defining deviancy down. Of the top ten largest cities in the US, LA's crime rate is higher than four and lower than five. The reality is that all ten have unacceptable crime rates compared to most of the developed world and most of the nation.
I wasn't joking.
Sr. La Enchiladita seems to think that the changes wrought by Mexicans is normal, natural and (by omission) good.
You have done everything but answer the simple 2 line questions.
I learned long ago to be very suspect and beware of those that respond with long winded answers to very simple questions.
You fit that profile perfectly.
I've ran into petty criminals that polish and deliver BS better than you slick.
I answered your question, but you don’t like the answer. As I said, that was my final response. I have wasted too much time already dealing with an idiot. You need to get out of your mother’s basement and see what the real world is like.
ping for viewing after work...
But the author is partially right, but partially wrong. My boss grew up in Brazil. In a suburb just out side of a big city down there. He has said a few times that he sees the US sliding into the same stuff that many of the cites in Brazil had. High crime, corrupt government, decaying infrastructure, etc.
We aren't there yet, but we are getting closer. It isn't just the illegal immigrants (though they have sped the process along in places), but many natural citizens are part of the problem. We have stopped being a nation of “Can do!” and become a nation of waiting for the next hand out. Look at all the trailer trash that was still in FEMA trailers over a year after Katrina! THESE WERE NOT JUST BLACKS OR MEXICANS!
The policies of the last 40 years have built up two generations of people who honestly don't want to work, and would rather tear the place down. It is across ethnic groups and areas.
I know, but it was still funny. :-)
Your comments are more balanced than most I’ve seen here. Urban decay has been going on for a long time, and there is shared responsibility in this.
I understand how you feel about cities. I’m a country girl at heart, I believe, just happen to be stuck in a city and making the best of it. I look for the good, and sometimes I find it:).
So, what say you? You never came back after dropping this article-bomb from what appears to be your favorite publication. I have the feeling you don’t even live on this side of the pond.
Los Angeles....
Soon to change it’s name to New Orleans
You’re not allowed to say that here, too sensible.
Jeez, I don’t live on that side of the pond, eh? How’d ya work that out Einstein? Maybe because I make no secret of the fact perhaps.
I must check the site rules again to find out which pond sides are acceptable when posting articles.
Right, you live in a third world country.
Well, Mr. PotatoHead, I live in the U.S.A.: not a third world country, and Los Angeles is not a 3rd world city, no matter what your precious favorite newspaper says to fill space.
Yawn.
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