Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 23/04/2008 | Staffer

Posted on 04/22/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.

Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; diversity; firstworld; immigration; losangeles; unitedstates
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-193 next last
To: Cringing Negativism Network
I’m planning to move soon. It no longer feels welcoming, or safe here.

I hope you are happy in your new location. Some people, though, have lost the ability to be happy and then blame it on location. It's good to know the difference.

51 posted on 04/22/2008 10:08:04 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita

I traveled through Huntington Park on Sunday...haha...I think that is 98% brown.....but Sun Valley is worse, becuase it is the highest concentration of illegals in the County.


52 posted on 04/22/2008 10:08:04 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: raptor29

When was the last time you were in Mexico?


53 posted on 04/22/2008 10:08:58 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: BurbankKarl

Does a “98% brown” Huntington Park mean that L.A. is a third world city? I’m just trying to make the connection with the assertion of the Daily Telegraph article.....


54 posted on 04/22/2008 10:11:19 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita; raptor29
When was the last time you were in Mexico?

If Mexicon is such a grand place, why are all of it's citizens risking their lives to walk across the desert and paying a coyote serveral thousand dollars a piece to get here?
55 posted on 04/22/2008 10:16:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

“If Mexicon is such a grand place, why are all of it’s citizens risking their lives to walk across the desert and paying a coyote serveral thousand dollars a piece to get here?”

-

2 reasons:

It’s not actually such a great place - it’s corrupt and run by elitists. (except why then flee to California?...)

“Reconquista”.

Not necessarily in that order.


56 posted on 04/22/2008 10:19:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita

Answer this question honestly please:

Do you genuinely object, to the idea of “reconquista”?

I mean, deep down. Really, truly object?...

Thanks.


57 posted on 04/22/2008 10:21:27 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: kabar; JLS
This is the real L.A.

Hmmm. You got more crime per capita in Richmond Virgina, than Los Angeles, Cal does.

58 posted on 04/22/2008 10:22:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Aw Jeez, not the charts again...


59 posted on 04/22/2008 10:22:48 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


60 posted on 04/22/2008 10:24:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Let me answer by saying that your screen-name seems to suit you.


61 posted on 04/22/2008 10:24:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Does that really bother ya?

Gimmie a sec, I’ll run up Richmond.


62 posted on 04/22/2008 10:24:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita

Y, el mismo tambien.


63 posted on 04/22/2008 10:25:58 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network; kabar
Here ya go. Notice the violent crime rates in Richmond, Virgina?

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Richmond, VA Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 38.8 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 38.83 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 504.3 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 460.9 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 1167 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3245.1 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 744.5 654.4 501.5

64 posted on 04/22/2008 10:27:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

12.4 murders?

Heck ... there were that many last weekend.

And that was just on the freeway.


65 posted on 04/22/2008 10:28:44 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2; Cringing Negativism Network; kabar

And yet, see how much higher LA is in many categories over the national average?


66 posted on 04/22/2008 10:28:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita

No, because Huntington Park isnt in City of LA.


67 posted on 04/22/2008 10:29:05 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita; BurbankKarl
Does a “98% brown” Huntington Park mean that L.A. is a third world city? I’m just trying to make the connection with the assertion of the Daily Telegraph article.

It does if the majority of them are Illegal.
68 posted on 04/22/2008 10:30:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita

And this Telegraph article is basically a rewrite of the LA Times article from Sunday. The local schools do not produce the talent required to run businesses, that is why employers recruit from out of state....and out of the country to fill positions.


69 posted on 04/22/2008 10:31:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: BurbankKarl

People read, the LA Times?


70 posted on 04/22/2008 10:33:32 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
12.4 murders?

Actualy, there wasn't. You're thinking of Chicago where they had 20 shootings in 24 hours the other day.

Maybe you don't get what per capita means. It means for every 100,000 people ya got in Richmond, there are 38.8 murders. In LA there are only 12.4.

You get that right?

Heck ... there were that many last weekend. Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Richmond, VA Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 38.8 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 38.83 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 504.3 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 460.9 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 1167 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3245.1 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 744.5 654.4 501.5

71 posted on 04/22/2008 10:33:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

Give me a *major* city, or comparable size in another state you want to compare.

I’m game.


72 posted on 04/22/2008 10:35:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: JLS; La Enchiladita
Some of these posters need to travel to some real third world cities and countries. Flies everywhere, dead animals in what passes for roads, mud everywhere if it is in a wet climate and people living in anything available.

I was just in Jamaica and all though it isn't quite a cesspool, it is poor all over. The wealthy section of Montego Bay is only about 5% of the city, the rest is small houses with wooden shutters, no glass. I did notice that even the smallest house had bars on the doors and windows.

73 posted on 04/22/2008 10:35:24 PM PDT by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

“Give me a *major* city, or comparable size in another state you want to compare.

I’m game.”

-

Riverside.

I dare ya.


74 posted on 04/22/2008 10:36:46 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie
Check out Phoenix.

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Phoenix, AZ Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 15.4 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 36.25 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 287.5 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 398.5 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 1064.3 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3282.6 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 1587.5 654.4 501.5

75 posted on 04/22/2008 10:37:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Got one for Compton?

Long Beach?

For that matter, Hollywood?...


76 posted on 04/22/2008 10:38:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Riverside. I dare ya. Not the murders etc.

Here ya go.

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Richmond, VA Riverside, CA National
Murder: 38.8 3.8 7
Forcible Rape: 38.83 28.36 32.2
Robbery: 504.3 278.1 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 460.9 377.9 336.5
Burglary: 1167 810.4 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3245.1 2552.5 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 744.5 828.2 501.5

77 posted on 04/22/2008 10:40:08 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Now wait just a minute.

Source please...


78 posted on 04/22/2008 10:41:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:
Richmond, VA Long Beach, CA National
Murder: 38.8 8.6 7
Forcible Rape: 38.83 28.02 32.2
Robbery: 504.3 301.1 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 460.9 377.4 336.5
Burglary: 1167 605.5 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3245.1 1379.5 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 744.5 686.6 501.5

lol


79 posted on 04/22/2008 10:41:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ya thinking I’m making all this up by myself?

lol


80 posted on 04/22/2008 10:42:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Actually now I’m wondering what’s up with Richmond.

I’ll hand you this round though.


81 posted on 04/22/2008 10:44:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

lol, it’s not just Richmond. Most all other major cities in other states have much higher crime per capita than LA does.

You should see cities like St. Louis and many others. Kinda frightening when you see the stats.

It’s really pretty amazing.


82 posted on 04/22/2008 10:47:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: razorback-bert

Right and the poor houses dont have color tv and ac either.


83 posted on 04/22/2008 10:51:02 PM PDT by JLS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Could be partly I’m projecting, and what’s bugging me is broader Political Correctness - which as practiced in America today is actually more like ethnic Balkanization.

I live in LA primarily, because I like being around people who aren’t just like me.

More and more, it doesn’t seem those other people, value that mix very much. That’s the change I’m sensing.

It seems like it’s becoming us and them, more every day...

/(soapbox)


84 posted on 04/22/2008 10:52:39 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Duncan D Hunter for President ... 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Check these St. Louis, MO. numbers. Yeowza!

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

St. Louis, MO Long Beach, CA National
Murder: 37.2 8.6 7
Forcible Rape: 97.15 28.02 32.2
Robbery: 907.2 301.1 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 1439.1 377.4 336.5
Burglary: 2453.3 605.5 813.2
Larceny Theft: 6802.4 1379.5 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 2492.2 686.6 501.5

85 posted on 04/22/2008 10:55:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: JLS; Travis McGee; Squantos; dixiechick2000

I lived in:

Port Au Prince (Petionville)

Bogota

Baranquilla

Cali

Freetown Sierra Leone

Guatemala City

Kingston Jamaica

Rio De Janiero

Sao Paulo

Belo Horizonte

Chinandega/Corinto Nicaragua

Raised in Jackson Mississippi.

I think I have proper credentials for third world cred....you can ping a dozen freepers to check my veracity if you’d like.

Los Angeles is not yet third world but it’s getting close as are other US cities.

Wealth in enclosed guarded pockets or sections and swaths of lawlessness where police presence takes on a militaristic look.

Lack of national cultural cohesiveness and education and language.

Sound familiar.

By the way....you may be too young to recall but I’m not and not too long ago the typical American City did not have good areas and bad areas. That sorta garbage exploded after the mid 60s and the illegals and illegitimacy epidemics have only been two of many catalyst(s)

but....to sorta take your side....I’d like to know how London compares nowadays to these measurements the Telegraph has....bet it’s pretty close


86 posted on 04/22/2008 10:56:28 PM PDT by wardaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
It seems like it’s becoming us and them, more every day...

That's everywhere friend. Unless you can go to the sticks and hide out, where there are no shopping centers, jobs, businesses, towns etc, it's becoming what you said.

I personally have no desire to live really remote, and have to drive 50 miles just to work or do anything.

87 posted on 04/22/2008 10:59:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2; kellynla

Are you using Census stats? DOJ?

If you’re still up to it, how about:

The top twenty Liberal cities:

1. Detroit, Michigan
2. Gary, Indiana
3. Berkeley, California
4. Washington, D.C.
5. Oakland, California
6. Inglewood, California
7. Newark, New Jersey
8. Cambridge, Massachusetts
9. San Francisco, California
10. Flint, Michigan
11. Cleveland, Ohio
12. Hartford, Connecticut
13. Paterson, New Jersey
14. Baltimore, Maryland
15. New Haven, Connecticut
16. Seattle, Washington
17. Chicago, Illinois
18. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
19. Birmingham, Alabama
20. St. Louis, Missouri

List is from here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001274/posts


88 posted on 04/22/2008 11:05:33 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick; Travis McGee

Is it ok to ask if there are any predominately white cities that are awash with crime?

Can anyone think of one?


89 posted on 04/22/2008 11:13:13 PM PDT by wardaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BurbankKarl
Yes, I recall this being a "news item" recently, asserting 50% of the workforce in L.A. is immigrants, this from the "Migration Policy Institute." First of all, that is immigrants, whether legal or illegal. And second, who the heck is the "Migration Policy Institute?"
90 posted on 04/22/2008 11:13:30 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: razorback-bert

Simply stated, it pleases the Daily Telegraph to point at Los Angeles as a “3rd world city” rather than reveal more dire conditions in parts of the U.K.


91 posted on 04/22/2008 11:15:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: PotatoHeadMick
" 'Los Angeles 'is a Third World city' ... A short article about LA, I've never been so I can't judge its accuracy. "

Oh it's accurate all right, but it's not like it happened in the last few years. I grew up in LA in the 1960s when it was a normal American city. But in the 1970s, and moreso in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, the city turned into the cesspool it currently is. LA resembles Mexico City more than America -- crowds, crime, grime, graffiti, lazy men on street corners, cheap tinny Mexican music on every street corner.

All because we don't enforce our immigration laws, and because liberals fight common sense enforcement.

LA might still be prosperous but it is like Rio de Janeiro -- wealthy but surrounded by millions of angry peasants.

It was my home but I wouldn't move back there for a million dollars.

92 posted on 04/22/2008 11:26:29 PM PDT by tom h
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2; Cringing Negativism Network
I once lived in the LA area, Bellflower (which was at the time cattle yards and railroads), Long Beach (which at the time was oil rigs and ship yards) and San Pedro (which was the best of all for a Navy brat). That was when Dragnet was a TV show.

Yesterday over here, a body was found in the bay with rocks in the deceased pockets and wearing a backpack, filled with rocks. Investigation ongoing.
93 posted on 04/22/2008 11:26:29 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (MSM-Keelhauling the News Daily!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

One of the reasons why states that don’t border Mexico are becoming so popular with illegal aliens is because those places that were traditional destination points for illegals are for the most part becoming just like Mexico.


94 posted on 04/22/2008 11:40:35 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Ajnin
Actually, that's not the reason.

The reason the invasion spread from the southwest to all points in America was because there are only so many service jobs and greedy employers in the southwest. They started spreading to all points in search of other lower end jobs, or or labor intensive jobs, and other greedy employers in other states started hiring them by the millions. That's what happened.

In addition to the feds/politicians being paid off and supported by the greedy corporations and business owners that wanted the borders kept wide open. They love illegal low wage labor.

Profits regardless of consequences.

95 posted on 04/23/2008 12:06:12 AM PDT by dragnet2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

Yeah, jobs is a reason. That’s why I stated that ONE of the reasons why illegals go to other states is because LA is becoming just like Mexico. I’ve arrested hundreds of illegals, perhaps thousands, and I’ve been told by many that their life in LA was not much different than it was in Mexico. When you consider that many illegals are going to a city that has rejected the rule of law, what they say is plausible.


96 posted on 04/23/2008 12:56:50 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita
Every city on earth has changed over time, especially over the past half century. It is inevitable.

It is true that change is inevitable.

Have the changes to L.A. brought about by Mexicans made the city better or worse?

South Gate, Cudahy and Maywood is where L.A. is headed.

97 posted on 04/23/2008 1:02:15 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: ckilmer

Thank you for posting the numbers. Reality Check!! And first thing that came to mind after reading your post was DHS’s plan to spend millions and millions to determine who all these imprisoned illegals are and then, in an effort to save $$$, release them with a one-way ticket back to Mexico. The day these murdering, raping thugs are released for deportation without our borders being effectively secured, we will for certain have, IMO, reached a point of no return.


98 posted on 04/23/2008 1:54:22 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Ajnin
>>I’ve been told by many that their life in LA was not much different than it was in Mexico.<<

That's what the Guatemalans in this film (1983) said when they got to LA.

It's ultimately a sad film, starting with the characters being exploited by the rich folks in Guatemala.

"Para el rico, somos puro brazo para trabajar."

"To the rich man, we are nothing more than arms to do his work."

On the way to LA, his sister gets typhus from rats and dies. Although he starts to learn English and gets a better job, in the end, in LA he is exploited again.

99 posted on 04/23/2008 2:01:17 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I was shown that movie while I was in the Border Patrol Academy.


100 posted on 04/23/2008 2:48:24 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-193 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson