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U.S. soldier held in Mexico after crossing border with weapons
The Associated Press ^ | Wed, Apr. 23, 2008 | By ALICIA A. CALDWELL

Posted on 04/23/2008 11:11:26 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly

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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
When an American is in Mexico, the government there has every right to enforce Mexican laws.

When an Mexican is in America, the government here has every right to enforce American laws. Wait…never mind.

21 posted on 04/23/2008 11:59:19 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (There was once consensus that the world was flat.)
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Taking the car to California to drop off with a relative prior to a long deployment. Taking guns to drop off as well. That actually makes sense.

However, not properly planning his trip, getting tired/lost/confused, and ignoring the signs does not exactly speak volumes for his pigment.

(Not sure about the ignoring the signs bit is a legitimate criticism because the highway approach to the border might be so channelized that you couldn't abort prior to crossing even if you wanted to. Never have crossed at Juarez, so just speculating based on how the Tijuana crossing is set up.)

22 posted on 04/23/2008 12:00:38 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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I wonder if he was in uniform?

While driving on home leave? Probably not.

23 posted on 04/23/2008 12:03:15 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (There was once consensus that the world was flat.)
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I see you never drove along the border. There is very little markings some times.


24 posted on 04/23/2008 12:06:31 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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Actually, I have spent a lot of time in El Paso and there seem to be plenty of signs that indicate that you are Leaving the U.S.A. and entering Mexico.


25 posted on 04/23/2008 12:08:14 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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I still do not understand how he could have not realized he was driving into Mexico.

Reread the article:

But he misunderstood directions from an El Paso gas station attendant, took the wrong exit, and wound up in Mexico.

"When I saw where I was, I started asking people at the front gate, 'Where can I turn around at?'" Torres said.

A Mexican border guard told him to make a U-turn several hundred feet past the border, Torres said.

But within seconds of leaving the inspection station, Mexican federal authorities stopped his car.


26 posted on 04/23/2008 12:31:57 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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As a driver he is responsible for reading the all road signs including the ones that tell a driver that that they are about to leave the U.S. and enter Mexico. However, they also need to put up a sign telling people that once they enter Mexico that they loose all right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
27 posted on 04/23/2008 12:41:58 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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However, not properly planning his trip, getting tired/lost/confused, and ignoring the signs does not exactly speak volumes for his pigment.

What the hell does pigment have to do with anything?

28 posted on 04/23/2008 1:14:37 PM PDT by phrogphlyer
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Unfortunate connotations noted (and NOT INTENDED), I was more annoyed that this was done by a soldier who should be better able to plan and execute than this.

Don’t know how it happened, but the word I thought I wrote down was “judgment.”

Must have screwed it up during text revision and didn’t catch it. Damned if I know how though...


29 posted on 04/23/2008 3:52:26 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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That makes more sense, and I tend to agree with you on that point. Still, it’s a tough situation, and not entirely his fault. If he told the first guard he saw that he had no intention of entering Mexico, and was instructed to turn around south of the border, he got some bad directions from the guard, and his biggest mistake was following them. Good luck arguing that in court though.


30 posted on 04/23/2008 4:04:30 PM PDT by phrogphlyer (Fly Navy)
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