Posted on 04/25/2008 10:36:59 PM PDT by Kurt Evans
The link to audio of the speech is reproduced in post #2.
It's 22 minutes long.
First you’re for Huckabee, and now Alan Keyes and the Constitution Party?
You are quite the operator, aren’t you..?
What’s weird about going from Huckabee to Keyes? Although, Huckabee at least had a shred of a chance....
When Kurt Evans (if that is his real name) was shilling for Huckabee, Huckabee had already no chance of winning, and was doing nothing but sabotaging Mitt Romney, clearing the way for McCain. There was no other logical outcome.
Now that McCain is the nominee due to Huckabee’s efforts, Mr. Evans suddenly is for Alan Keyes, trying to lead people like a pied piper away from the GOP completely and to the Constitution Party. The net result, if people were to follow his lead would be Obama as the next President. There is no other logical outcome. Kurt’s actions have either been calculated, or out of abject stupidity. It can only be one or the other.
I heard that both of the people in the crowd gave him a standing ovation.
There are more—and more honorable—reasons than your either/or scenario.
Some are dismayed to the point of abhorrance at the Gramscian sabotage and sullying within the GOP leadership, whether your personal key issues are fiscal and/or Biblical (’SoCon’) reasons.
I believe it better to throw the usurpers and corrupters out than to abandon the GOP. Others believe otherwise but not all are stupid, or smart shills. In this case, dissent is not unpatriotic.
I agree with Keyes’ stated principles but not his strategies, as I’ve said elsewhere.
I wish more Conservatives would understand and stand ardently for the principles Keyes advocates.
Ah ha....I see what you’re saying.
Well Keyes effect on this election will be nil - no matter what anyone says.
So how much is Soros going to contribute to Alan Keyes For President election fund?
Bump for later reading
I believe the most dangerous candidates for president in this cycle were (1) Romney, (2) McCain, (3) Obama and (4) Clinton.Those are the only 4 candidates that were viable. So you admit, your order of preference in this presidential race has been:
Any other reasons you may claim are neither realistic or practical.
We go to the polls with the candidate we have, not the candidate we wish we had.
Elections are about either/or, choosing one or the other, not “none of the above”.
Elections are pragmatic things.
Elections are about confronting reality, with realistic options.
The reality is this election is McCain vs. Obama, Republican vs. Democrat. Period.
McCain may not be your perfect definition of “conservative”, but he is still the most conservative person at this juncture capable of being sworn in to office on January 20, 2009. That is the reality.
The Democrats have been so successful where Republicans have not because Democrats take every opportunity to advance their agenda, no matter how small it is. And they give no quarter to Republicans to advance their agenda on any front. The Democrats are the Palestinians of American politics.
You can speak in hyperbolic terms about McCain advancing the Democrats’ agenda, but no matter how much that even may be true, he will not advance it an iota of what Obama would. Even if we lose some ground in some areas with McCain, it is not nearly what we would lose with Obama, and those are the two choices we are faced with, and no others.
If McCain displeases us as president, then in 2012 we nominate someone else, and be thankful that at least it wasn’t President Obama during those 4 years.
Excellent speech, Kurt Evans. Thanks for posting it!
What do you mean, if??? McCain displeases most of us as a Senator...He'll be a disaster as a President...
You liberal Republicans have forced us into accepting one of your liberal Republican candidates for President...
You guys deserve an 'Obama'...
That is very well said Kurt Evans.
While I was sympathetic to your cause in Huckabee, as a Reagan Conservative, I could not stand with you. In your support of Keyes however, I am happy to stand with you, and I welcome your not inconsiderable talents and zeal- For in Keyes you see, we can all find common ground, just like you and I.
Far be it from anyone here to cast aspersions upon a Reagan Conservative such as Dr. Keyes. They belittle him out of the fear of what he, and his supporters represent. If he does win the CP nomination, it can well mean the end of the Republican hopes this year. McCain's support is a mile wide and an inch deep. If one merely gets the ball rolling, I can well imagine wholesale abandonment of the Republicans altogether. My, what a wrench that would cast into the well-oiled machinery of the Globalists, not to mention D.C. itself.
Why, Are you worried it might be more than he has already contributed to McCain?
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LOL! ya beat me by twenty seconds... :D
Masterful!! Thanks for posting.
Alan Keyes has been my choice for President for many years. This powerful speech is another reminder that this is the man needed in the White House.
Could Lincoln have done better?
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With Democrats nominating candidates in both major parties, it's time for a third party to step up and give us a real choice in November.
The Republican primary is over.
McCain wasn’t my first choice.
Nor was he my second choice.
However, I did say very early when polls first started suggesting that he may make a comeback that he would be very good on the war and out of control spending from congress. These are the two biggest issue for conservatives, and no candidate in the race was better on either of them than McCain. Those are his issues. I said it then and I still say it now.
The bottom line is a primary is the time when you sort out your differences. We are in a general elction now. The GOP has its candidate, and that candidate is John McCain. I support the Republican in this election. How about you?
And that is the money shot, right there. When McCain goes down (and he will go down), Lets all remember who set up the circumstances we now face.
Even so, if there is no remedy, and the loss occurs, when those self same liberals come squealing, kicking, and screaming, they will be quick to blame the Conservatives (and especially the Christians) for refusing to sacrifice principle to expediency, as they always have, and always will.
Chumps.
LOL, you funny guy. Have a good night.
Are you not aware that Soros is funding 527s to attack McCain?
You must live on another planet.
Hey, McCain wasn’t my candidate in the primary, but he is my candidate now.
So you are saying Obama is yours?
Because this November, one or the other is going to be elected president.
I need only direct you to Gelato's post on #25
How very convenient that is.
Well, it ain't gonna be McCain, so a bet on a dark horse isn't gonna hurt a single thing. Besides, McCain doesn't need us Conservatives, remember? He's gonna pick up all his votes in the middle... for every one of us that won't vote for him, five from the indies and middle dems", as somebody hereabouts suggested...
You liberal Republicans have forced us into accepting one of your liberal Republican candidates for President...Problem here is I am neither liberal nor a Republican. I am registered as an unaffiliated voter here in California, which meant I could only vote in the Democrat primary. I chose the non-partisan ballot instead because I wanted no part in casting a vote for either Democrat. Had I voted for one or the other and then they were elected president, I would have had to lived the rest of my life knowing I helped in some small way. Also, I have never cast a vote for any Democrat ever, and I wasn't about to start.
I might vote Keyes but only if my state (CA) is obviously and unquestionably going to Obama/Clinton, which is likely the case, but we’ll see.
It won’t be McCain only if enough conservatives throw away a vote on the likes of Keyes. It isn’t a bet on a “dark horse.” You are not playing with a full deck if you believe that. Never in American history has a 3rd party candidate been elected, not even Teddy Roosevelt when he ran on the Bullmoose ticket. And it certainly isn’t going to change this election.
McCain or Obama. No one else.
Victory or defeat in Iraq.
Tax increases or tax cuts.
Limited government or full blown socialism.
Free trade or protectionism.
You make the choice.
*blink* *blink* : |
You are full of $h!t. You are nothing but a liar.
I was never for Rudy, I was never against Thompson.
I was for Thompson long before he ever got in the race.
I was critical of Thompson’s campaign performance, because I thought it was a losing strategy, and clearly it was.
I challenged those here who were mindless cheerleaders, sticking their heads in the sand and pretending everything was going according to plan, that his campaign as A-OK, because when no one has the guts to say the emperor has no clothes on, he will continue to walk around naked.
Also, I did on occasion challenge some of the unfair characterizations of Giuliani, but I was never ever one of his supporters. See, unlike many who come here to politic and shill for one candidate or another, I come to discuss politics and current events. I am not always in campaign mode. If I see someone saying ridiculous lies about Rudy Giuliani, or any one else, for that matter, I will challenge it. That doesn’t mean I am campaigning for that person. It just means I am calling it as I see it.
Thanks for posting the speech. Keyes is a modern day Ezekiel. He has never been a great candidate. Sadly, I think we’ll come to rue our failure to listen. It’s not that we didn’t elect Keyes President, I don’t think that was ever central. It’s that while everybody who heard him particularly early on proclaimed their love for the message, but darned if anyone would actually fight for those values. I fear we shall soon regret that we did not.
Perhaps your memory is short, but by the time Super Tuesday came along, the race was already Romney vs. McCain.
I had started out for Thompson, but he had dropped out long before the primary came around here. Once Thompson left the race, I began supporting the remaining candidate I thought was best. That candidate was Romney. I have no problem quickly adjusting the the new reality as it comes about. It’s called being pragmatic. It’s called choosing the best available option.
I am dismayed by the historical revisioning taking place here, but not surprised. I don’t expect everyone to know exactly where I stood on what over the weeks and months. I don’t think I’m that important.
However, I invite you to search back and read all of my posts for as many months and years back as you like. You will find yourself both informed and entertained.
I would betcha' that most of the votes for Keyes would stay home without the choice, or write in, or leave blank... And that is a HUGE number, if I reckon right. So it is no skin of McCain's nose (melanoma pun not intended).
It isn’t a bet on a “dark horse.” You are not playing with a full deck if you believe that.
It is precisely a 'dark horse' by the very definition.
And it certainly isn’t going to change this election.
Stranger things have happened...
McCain or Obama. No one else.
Then Obama it is, with a chastised (r) party throwing away it's leadership and going back to basics, including opposing liberalism.
Victory or defeat in Iraq.
Then defeat it will be.
Tax increases or tax cuts.
Bullcrap. Tax increases. You may bet on that either way.
Limited government or full blown socialism.
Total bullcrap. See tag.
Free trade or protectionism.
Bah! "Free-Traitorism" Hunter got that one right. See tag sommore.
You make the choice.
You bet I will. I will make the choice that does not suffer my principles. That choice WILL get me all you wish for, and more, as that choice will only be for a Reagan Conservative. Without such there is no win, and no choice whatsoever.
I totally disagree with McCain on Global Warming™, cap and trade, etc. There are countless things I disagree with him on. There are countless things I disagree with President Bush on, too. But I still voted for him, and would again if I had it all to do over again.
On the big issues, I agree with McCain. There is very little common ground, if any, with me and Obama or Hillary.
Victory or retreat in Iraq is the big one for me. That alone makes or breaks it.
McCain certainly has some intrusive ideas regarding the role of government. But they pale in comparison to the ideas of either Democrat. And most importantly, McCain wants to cut wasteful pork barrel spending. Both Democrats want to expand government spending exponentially.
I think the one area where McCain has the most credibility is on that issue, and I think it is the one issue where Republicans, and conservatives in particular, have lost faith in the Republican party, and politicians in general.
I do think that John McCain is the one candidate who can really restore that trust. It seems to me like it is the congressional Republicans who are resisting any effort to restore the American people’s trust in Republicans as the vanguards of American tax dollars. It is the congressional Republicans who still just don’t get it, that they blew our trust. McCain gets that, and perhaps as president, he can drag the rest of them along, kicking and screaming.
>Victory or defeat in Iraq.You are no patriot.
Then defeat it will be.
*blink* *blink* : |
It’s called being pragmatic. It’s called choosing the best available option.
Ahh, there we go! the ever elusive 'electability'! Suffer one's principles for expedience, and one is sure to end up with... well, McCain. Wish in one hand, Sh*t in the other, and what do you get? McCain.
I am dismayed by the historical revisioning taking place here, but not surprised.
I have revised nothing, relying upon your own words, as one can plainly see.
However, I invite you to [...] read all of my posts [...] You will find yourself both informed and entertained.
There is no need. I read you quite often, and I agree with your statement, while reserving the right to disagree generally.
McCain was doing Bush’s bidding on Amnesty.
I do believe that wholeheartedly.
The Big Tent GOP believed they had been given a pass on illegal immigration. Bush has been playing footsie with Mexico since before he was elected, and no one said “boo”.
No one cared, because there were much bigger issues at hand.
Bush tested the waters many times, and got virtually no resistance.
In fact, everything he did seemed to get cheered on by the Right, as though he was Barack Obama blowing his nose at a rally.
So it is no wonder, being that Amnesty was part of Karl Rove’s Big Tent Strategy from Day One, that Bush eventually tried it. McCain was just his chosen man to do it. It was Bush passing the electoral torch to McCain. They were blindsided. Neither knew there would be the backlash there was.
I do believe that Amnesty was Bush’s issue, from the start.
I think McCain could take it or leave it. I don’t think he’ll revisit it again.
Unlike Bush, McCain has gotten the message that people want border security first.
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